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« Reply #120 on: March 15, 2010, 04:48:10 PM »
Dee I did not pay the bill he just accused me of hitting his dog with my van but he quickly did a about face when he realized I was on foot and even if I did hit the dog it would of been in the street for me to hit it here in Florida you are responsible for your animals D Crockett I went back and reread you post and you are right he get the bill and I get a peaceful neighborhood again D Crockett

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« Reply #121 on: March 15, 2010, 04:56:23 PM »
Re-read my post D Crockett. It was the humor that the man would not control his animal, and it got ran over, and he (the dog's owner) had to pay to have it put down. JUSTICE. ;)
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« Reply #122 on: March 15, 2010, 05:00:20 PM »
I did and you are right he did D Crockett

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« Reply #123 on: March 15, 2010, 06:55:39 PM »
well never let it be said you did not go above and beyond to try to resolve this.  thing is, sometimes people just force your hand.   

  you are definately more patient than i am. 

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« Reply #124 on: March 15, 2010, 07:14:11 PM »
Maybe you can start dousing the pit with foxlure(urine) or any other evil smelling lure you have on hand..let him take some home every day. :D ;D
   Just make it something that really hangs on...durable. I bet there are some trappers here who could offer some ideas for good ones ::)
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« Reply #125 on: March 16, 2010, 03:02:24 AM »
The fact of the matter is, if he goes home smelling, he will come back. They will just let him run outside even more, and that is the problem. There are several little girls down the street that get in the front yard and scream and holler and chase each other all the time. This is what pushes a pit's buttons, and by the way, a dog doesn't care how he smells. They roll in dead animals, remember? I don't want to get even with the owners. I want the dog off the streets.
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« Reply #126 on: March 16, 2010, 03:18:02 AM »
Dan just feed the little feller a toxic treat and be done with it.
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« Reply #127 on: March 16, 2010, 05:08:58 AM »
bad advice....dont ever put anything in the mailbox unless you are a postman. 

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« Reply #128 on: March 16, 2010, 05:58:08 AM »
One time i had a blood clott problem, dr. had me on Cumidan (warfarine)(rat
poison) when he took me off it i had just refilled the precription. My across
the back fence neighbor had a dog that would bark constantly, he ate 4 tablets one nite rolled up in hamberger meat about 11pm between barks, liked it so much he hasn't barked since.
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« Reply #129 on: March 16, 2010, 08:36:55 AM »
Dand:

I went shopping for my electronic zapper after seeing how effective the ones carried by a couple deputies carried worked.  They became popular after the mess created when one shot the lower jaw off a Pit Bull and it made it into the brush.

I went looking for one, which is similar to the ones I show in an earlier provide link.  I could not find one but a gun shop, LE supplier had one from “exotic elec.co” which I purchased.  It worked for me, stopped aggressive dogs and seemed to confuse them.  They back off and retreated to a location more in their comfort zone. 

Recently I loaned mine to a friend who was having a problem with a barking dog.  The people below would put their dog out about 0600 and the dog would start barking.  Complaints to animal control did little good.  My electronic device shut the dog up.  From my own experience the dog has to be rather close.  It will not work on a dog that is 300 feet out.  My friend and his wife liked the device so much that  retrieving it from them almost because a problem.  I started looking for a source on the net for them to buy one.   The place I bought mine from was out of business.

As mentioned old dog losing their hearing may have a limited reaction.  I have used mine on an old dog that kind of cocks his head, shrugs his shoulders, and heads for home.

Unless you have a "very controlled location" pepper spray is a better option than shooting around people.  I recall an officer putting an injured horse down and the bullet penetrated the neck, ricocheting off the pavement killing a fellow officer.  In another case a local had a large vegetable garden and vineyard.  He was having problems and fired a shot from his .22 rifle.  The bullet went off his property, penetrated a solid wood door, went just over the top of an easy chair and hit the knotted pine wall just above the TV set.  If the owner had been in the chair must likely he would have taken the round in the head. 
I used pepper spray on a pack of Pit Bulls one early morning when serving arrest warrants and a search warrant on a drug operation.  My job was to secure that back side of a drug house.  The dogs took exception to me and charged.  I hosed them down with pepper spray and they quickly retreated into the timber.  I was well armed with an 870 and a 357 but shooting was a poor option.  There was the drug house with a number of people inside, along with children.  There were officers in the area, and other residents within a quarter mile.  Unlike the electronic device the dogs just disappeared, and allowed us to secure the area.

Having been a dog owner in I know that at times they mix it up with a skunk or roll in a cow pie and they need to be cleaned up. 

I have also been bitten seriously on the job requiring a trip to the hospital, the sleeve of an uniform shirt torn off, and still have a scar on my leg.  A gun, spray, or electronic device would not have helped that day.  I was talking to a couple of guys one morning and one of them had a nice German Sheppard on a leash.  He introduced the dog to me and I thought the dog and I were getting along rather well.  We turned our attention to a piece of equipment and I turned my back to the dog.  The dog grabbed on to my leg and I hit him in the face with my right fist, and in turn he took my shirt sleeve.  It took both men pulling on the leash to get the dog off me.

The owner went down to the hospital with me and paid the bill.  He had to fill out some forms for animal control and he repeated that his dog had just got out of two weeks of quarantine for attacking a plumber working under the sink in their home.  I was lucky he had help pulling the dog off me. 

As a good old country boy when circumstances allow reaching down and picking up a rock was enough to get most ordinary dogs on the run.  Normally one did not have to toss the rock, but an true attack animal is a different circumstance. 
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« Reply #130 on: March 16, 2010, 04:49:10 PM »
As a kid we had a neighbor’s mule that constantly tore the fence down and destroyed our garden.  My Grandfather got a chemical at the feed store that is used to keep weevils out of corn, if I remember correctly it is call "Highlight."  The chemical when poured on an animal caused a very bad burning sensation without the scars, etc of an actual burn.  We poured some on the mule’s back and after a few minutes it went wild, took off down the road and as far as I know it is still running.  Needless to say but it didn’t come back.  We also put it on several stray dogs with the same results.

Maybe someone can remember the name of the chemical and you can try that.

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« Reply #131 on: March 16, 2010, 05:03:17 PM »
 Here's a mean but deadly thing to do..fry a sponge in some tasty bacon grease and let him gobble it down. He'll soon be stoppered up and die..then there is a hotdog in a dish of permanent antifreeze..
  Not kind to animals, and I would not normally do it..and not advising you to do it..
   ...But if I truly believed in my heart some little girls were in real danger......
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« Reply #132 on: March 16, 2010, 05:29:08 PM »
Re: My Neighbors Pit Bull Dog.

After 5 pages why is he still roaming the earth?  ;D
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« Reply #133 on: March 16, 2010, 07:46:03 PM »
Quote from: TeamNelson link=topic=202291.msg1099054908#msg 1099054908 date=1268796548
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After 5 pages why is he still roaming the earth?  ;D

Because they are are popular as Wisconsin wolves.   ;D

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« Reply #134 on: March 16, 2010, 10:01:00 PM »
Sisk, thanks for the info on dog repellers. I recall searching and buying mine that is supposed to reach farther than many.  Seems to work to 50 feet or so and that's good. I didn't want one that  had to be real close. A dog could close the distance too quick before I could get it in action. But I was just thinking mine may be close to 8 years old and there might be better ones now. I first heard of them from our local electrical guys who used to read meters and fix lines. They had good luck with some brand.

Guys, for those suggesting antifreeze - I can't stomach that solution. I've heard terrible accounts here in town were the dogs get into it and die if kidney failure. Pretty awful. I support the lead poisoning solution over antifreeze.

Dee I think that dog has been working on your mind. Have you warned the parents of the kids?
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« Reply #135 on: March 16, 2010, 11:39:44 PM »
That's my question too... 8 days, five pages, maybe the owner is controlling the dog now.  I hope Dee has taken care of the problem by now.  Try to deal with it properly and legally.  Some folks just don't respond to that though.  SSS...

We live on an Army base in Germany.  We have problems with people letting their dogs run free on base when they are out walking.  It's against the regulations on base (and against Germany law) to walk dogs with them being on a leash of some kind.  Now... there is a "dog run" that is fully fenced and enclosed and which encompasses probably an acre of area.  No... they can't let their dogs run loose there.  They have to do it behind my house, in the kids playgrounds, on sports fields etc.  Problem is... the dogs are "nice" and "only want to play".  But MY DOG on a leash "doesn't play well with others".  So when they come up to my dog to "play", she jumps them and then there is a problem.  My dog is now 11 years old and pretty spry for her age but she isn't what she was about 5 years ago.  If she were younger, I'd just let her go and and then we'd deal with the aftermath.  But, I try to lead her away but a dog can approach us faster than we can walk away.  I have called the MP's, housing office, and their CO.  I finally started carrying a walking stick (5' long and heavy with a sharpened tip) and then I got yelled at and threatened when I beat a dog a few times to get it to run off.  I told them next time it happened I would defend my dog with the sharp end of the stick...  I almost broke my foot kicking a golden retriever that jumped my beagle one day.  And then got yelled at, called names and all that crap by the owner.  I swear... I'm going to make some "wolf-killers" and pack them in meat and put them in front of their houses at night...  I have plenty of guns but of course I can't SSS in my situation.  I'd go to jail.  I can't wait to retire and move back home in the country....  Irresponsible people drive me friggin' nuts!


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« Reply #136 on: March 17, 2010, 02:30:05 AM »
Well guys, it has been an interesting thread. I believe that early on I made the comment that if the dog came back I would dispose of it, but some of these suggestions have been entertaining to say the least. One even suggested I ADOPT the dog. How in the world do you ADOPT a dog that has an owner? Better still, why would you clearly declare that pit bulls are not welcome on you place, and then ADOPT one? :D
The dog hasn't come back, and perhaps it will not. If and when it does however, it will be a deal breaker for the dog's well being. I have did the right thing, and got some mild harassment from the ADULT DAUGHTER'S father, and that in itself did not sit well here at the Dee plantation.
My neighbor across the road is carrying a pistol in his belt, and has said enough is enough, and swore the dog dead on site on his place. I hope the point has been driven home, but if it has not, it will be "lights out for the dog".
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« Reply #137 on: March 17, 2010, 04:21:14 AM »
quote from TM7
Curiously this idea seems contrary to your thought processes.

Well TM your are clearly upset at my finding adoption humours concerning the pit. In the BEGINNING of the thread I CLEARLY STATED, I usually shoot them on site on my property. There's nothing curious about that. That you have chosen to be a little "horsey" about it, is "curious to me".

Making friends with a "pit bull running at large in a neighborhood"? It is CURIOUS to me how that would solve the problem. Adopting a pit bull running at large in a neighborhood that IS NOT UP FOR ADOPTION? That's REAL CURIOUS. How do you do that? Suggesting I adopt a running at large pit bull, when I have clearly stated I DON'T TRUST PIT BULLS? You don't find that suggestion a little CURIOUS?

Now for the sarcastic remark, and I quote: But if you're appointed Public Safety officer in your neighborhood and fear the dog than do it in as you will. What's that all about? Do you miss the arguments, is that what this is about?
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« Reply #138 on: March 17, 2010, 04:30:37 AM »
Your neighbor is carrying a pistol for the dog and has said it is dead if caught on his land. I don't know your neighborhood, but it sounds like houses there are normally closer than 500 feet. Many municipalities have outlawed discharging a firearm therein. Unless your neighbor can show evidence of an attack in progress...things could get sticky, especially if the "owner" wants to be a jerk. ...And that sounds like a definite possibility.
  If the dog is just dead, and nobody knows who or how..what can they do ? I wouldn't want to see your neighbor's CC permit jeopardized.

    Still, I am not a LEO..perhaps Dee could comment on whether zapping this dog with a .38 could become "sticky".
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« Reply #139 on: March 17, 2010, 05:02:29 AM »
There is a a lot of speculation here. I have explained that I live on the outskirts of town, and have explained that I have contacted the police, and they have said protect my property, and I have explained that shooting in this area is not hazardous, if one is careful of direction. A neighbor in some areas can be 5 miles, but we have now shrunk the area to less than 500 feet by pure "speculation".
My mention of the neighbor carrying a pistol was ONLY TO THE FACT, that no one is happy with this pit bull running loose, and now we have ANOTHER "what if". We have even SPECULATED, that the neighbor has a CC permit, and it might be jeopardized.
How can something so simple become so complicated, and intricate? This goes back to my statements on another thread of folks reading something in to a post that was not there, and even opposite to what was actually said.
I think it best that I just give up on this one. And no, before someone "reads into it" I am not angry. Just done with speculation, and speculation.
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« Reply #140 on: March 17, 2010, 05:53:05 AM »
I believe these "five pages to date" on the subject just serves to underscore the need to do what is needed and be quite about it or in other words SSS. Talking of the matter to my way of thinking is counter productive and in the long run can lead to far more legal complications than any of us likely want to deal with.

Now if you are in a place where it is perfectly legal to shoot or otherwise harm a critter like that running on your land then the silence part might not be so important as it is in other places. Still I think it is the wise course of action as it is still far less likely to come back on you regardless of how it does so.

When I first moved here it was how I handled such matters and wasn't illegal at all. Now however it has become a FELONY to deal with dogs and cats in that manner. How the animal lovers got that thru here in Bama I dunno but it was done quietly and had been accomplished before most of us had a clue it was even being considered. So now talking about the matter publicly and then doing anything is a real dumb move as you're likely to be charged with a felony and that means losing most all your rights and certainly your gun rights. So now I can no longer do anything to harm those nice little feral critters who come here. All I can do is watch and wish them farewell when they leave. Yup folks ya really need to learn the three SSS system and remember that third one is to shut up about the first two.

Putting your plans in a public place like this just gives lawyers ammo to use on you in court when your neighbor takes exception to what you did. Nope not me I love those little feral critters that invade my land I'd never do them harm. Not me. Really guys. :o


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« Reply #141 on: March 17, 2010, 06:01:09 AM »
It's not hard.  It is simple.  Texas.  Castle Doctrine.  Shoot the large, violent breed of dog on sight on your property.  In fact, let it get up on your porch and drop it on the steps.  Heck, it growled at you and bared it's teeth when you tried to go outside this morning didn't it?  "I was scared to leave my house so I dealt with the threat."  You may make an enemy but... Tough crap.  You're an older dude and probably aren't out to impress folks with your friendliness and ability to compromise.  Just in case, I would file reports on PAPER with cops and animal control in the future if the dog is known.  Or you just dig a pit, shoot, dispose, burn, shovel, have a cold beverage of your choice.  In fact if I remember, doesn't bone make good fertilizer in a garden?

Why worry about folks that want you to ADOPT the durn thing or play nice with it?  I wouldn't befriend it either.  In fact I would probably have put it down long ago.  Some folks just don't want to understand that you have gone out of the way to make sure the dog's owner knows there is a problem and knows the consequences of the the problem continuing.  It's your land, your house and your peace of mind.  SSS.

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« Reply #142 on: March 17, 2010, 06:54:59 AM »
rockbilly, not sure but I think it is "Highlife" or lye or caustic soda. Was sold for makeing soap and in some cases cureing food or protecting grain.

Befriending a Pit bull is like befriending a junkie, you will never know when it will thur on you.

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« Reply #143 on: March 17, 2010, 08:52:30 AM »
Lye for soap
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« Reply #144 on: March 17, 2010, 12:23:41 PM »
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lye

 Look up lye in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.

Lye is a corrosive alkaline substance, commonly sodium hydroxide (NaOH, also known as 'caustic soda') or historically potassium hydroxide (KOH, from hydrated potash). Previously, lye was among the many different alkalis leached from hardwood ashes.[1] Now, lye is commercially manufactured using a membrane cell method.

Solid dry lye is commonly available as flakes, pellets, microbeads, and coarse powder. It is also available as solution, often dissolved in water. Lye is valued for its use in food preparation, soap making, biodiesel production, and household uses, such as oven cleaner and drain opener
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« Reply #145 on: March 17, 2010, 12:35:45 PM »
In a lot of cases the dog is smarter than the owner,instead of shooting the dog pound the owner

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« Reply #146 on: March 17, 2010, 12:49:23 PM »
   I think you said it all GB. Just shoot the darn thing and keep your mouth shut. Looks like now it is to late to do that though. To many people have read this.
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« Reply #147 on: March 17, 2010, 12:57:57 PM »
If the dog got out again and in the wrong place it is probably already dead and never exsisted.       eddie  ;D

pseudo quote from DEE: What dog?
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« Reply #148 on: March 17, 2010, 03:18:43 PM »
quote from TM7
Curiously this idea seems contrary to your thought processes.

Well TM your are clearly upset at my finding adoption humours concerning the pit. In the BEGINNING of the thread I CLEARLY STATED, I usually shoot them on site on my property. There's nothing curious about that. That you have chosen to be a little "horsey" about it, is "curious to me".

Making friends with a "pit bull running at large in a neighborhood"? It is CURIOUS to me how that would solve the problem. Adopting a pit bull running at large in a neighborhood that IS NOT UP FOR ADOPTION? That's REAL CURIOUS. How do you do that? Suggesting I adopt a running at large pit bull, when I have clearly stated I DON'T TRUST PIT BULLS? You don't find that suggestion a little CURIOUS?

Now for the sarcastic remark, and I quote: But if you're appointed Public Safety officer in your neighborhood and fear the dog than do it in as you will. What's that all about? Do you miss the arguments, is that what this is about?


Dee.....nothing curious about anything ....all clear actually. Adopt simply means making friends with the dog if possible.  But clearly that is not an option for you and not in your stars and that I FOUND OUT LOUD and CLEARLY. So quit bugging us about your canine problems, get your nerve up and go out and shoot your neighbor's dog.  This is the solution apparently you sought all along. Not only do you have the authority's approval you got 8 pages of how-to-does here.  So go out and shoot the damn dog and be done with it already....it seems that was you intention from page 1 so go do it Mr. Neighborhood PS officer... Not my problem, not my providence to suggest apparently as far as you're concerned, so I don't care...just do what you want and go shoot the dog and move along.

And remember Dee what they say, "As dogs run free why don't we"...... :D


..TM7


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Re: My Neighbors Pit Bull Dog.
« Reply #149 on: March 18, 2010, 08:08:58 AM »
The dog has been gone since it came back after his first post...Dee is under the SSS rule ;D ;D ;D

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