My Neighbors Pit Bull Dog.

[scootrd]

nw_hunter ,
All your points may be absolutely valid , However I believe Pits have been so in bred by unethical breeders to the point they are no longer the Pits they were historically and have become a defective breed. And JMHO - I would never ever ever trust a pit , a chow , or a dalmatian with any child of mine. To to each his own I'm not saying your points are not valid . I understand all dogs may present their own behavioral issues. But IMHO Pits, Chows and dalmatians are so unpredictable that they will never be around any child I care for.

[Dand]

I have one of those electronic dog repellers. It works pretty good on most dogs. They usually tilt their heads or shake their heads and wander off.  But there were a couple dogs that may have been deaf as they seemed unaffected. Neither was a threat , they'd just stand at the end of their driveway and bark in a very tame way - noise but no threat. But I would worry if I came across an aggressive deaf dog. Sisk - its interesting that you have good luck with them. I suspect some brands are better than others - what do you recommend?

I had to laugh about spraying the dogs with pepper spray and then imagine them carrying it into the house - that stuff is nasty.

Dee see if you can get hold of that bear pepper spray. But don't spray into the wind. I used some once in training sprayed it down wind too. Still, my face tingled and my lips were almost numb for a couple hours. Spray that pit real good and let him haul it into the owner's home.  I don't know what it would take to clear it out.

[Dee]

I have one of those electronic dog repellers. It works pretty good on most dogs. They usually tilt their heads or shake their heads and wander off.  But there were a couple dogs that may have been deaf as they seemed unaffected. Neither was a threat , they'd just stand at the end of their driveway and bark in a very tame way - noise but no threat. But I would worry if I came across an aggressive deaf dog. Sisk - its interesting that you have good luck with them. I suspect some brands are better than others - what do you recommend?

I had to laugh about spraying the dogs with pepper spray and then imagine them carrying it into the house - that stuff is nasty.

Dee see if you can get hold of that bear pepper spray. But don't spray into the wind. I used some once in training sprayed it down wind too. Still, my face tingled and my lips were almost numb for a couple hours. Spray that pit real good and let him haul it into the owner's home.  I don't know what it would take to clear it out.

The only problem with spraying dogs is, what if there is an asthmatic, or a child in the house. The reason I have shot pits in the past is because of kids in the neighborhood. I certainly wouldn't want to send a dog covered in pepper spray in a house with children, and I don't really think any of you guys would either. Think about it.

[Siskiyou]

I have thought about it and the concern is where that bullet goes after it is fired.  As you have stated in other post bullets can change direction, or penetrate the intended target.  A fellow office shot a suspect in a gun battle with a 357 and the bullet exited the suspect, penetrated a window, crossed the street and penetrated the window of a business.  There are risk in taking action and the what if game goes on!

[SHOOTALL]

OK enough , get a LouisVille Slugger ( I still like wood ) and bash the pups noggan . No over spray , No wild flying bullets and best of all you can work off some anger getting exersise at the same time .

[Dee]

Well fortunately I Live on the very edge of town and this is not much of a problem as I have no one on either side, or behind me, so picking my shot on a dog is not a problem. The pepper spray I don't really care for as the possibility is there, but everyone has to do what they think is best.

[blind ear]

Set up a nice disguised backstop behind the food bowl. eddie

[Dee]

Set up a nice disguised backstop behind the food bowl. eddie

LOL! There ya go. I generally shoot dogs in real close, so my shooting for the most part is downward. My property layout is not prone to risk in that area. The baseball bat though is a thought, but it would suit a younger man's needs better. I'm sure it would also play well on the news. Man beats neighbors "pet dog Brownie" to death with baseball bat.

[Dand]

You are a considerate man Dee regarding possible asthmatics. I didn't think of that. If I knew the owner had no kids I might not care.

What about the Glaser safety bullets?

When I was a kid there was a very aggressive German Shorthair in our neighborhood. The owner would sic it on other neighbor dogs for no reason. Our next door neighbor had a lab chained outside. One day the GSH took after the lab and  the lab owner tried to whack the dog with the shovel he happened to be using. He was an older man and he really threw his back out trying to get that GSH. Missed the dog but was crippled up for much of the summer.
 
So the bat idea is one to think of carefully. Plus is there any chance getting that close might provoke the dog to attack you?

[Dee]

Well I suppose there is a chance but I have shot pits that were comin right at me. If you stay calm, their gonna get there soon enough, and you just wait until there right there, and do'em. I was a tactical K-9 Sgt. trainer for a number of years, so I have been bit by some pretty nice dogs. Pit's are determined but not smart. You can stick the muzzle to him if you have to. A pistol in close is good for dogs that don't run, or come in after you, if your geared that way yourself.
As far as considerate goes, it's the owners fault, but the dog is the problem. There's no reason to take it outside my property, and I try never to carry the problem any further than it has to go, so takin it into their home (pepper spray on the dog) is not on my agenda. I didn't want the problem in the first place, but I will make my point in such a way it isn't likely anyone will want to continue.
As far as your question on ammo, my reply is that a 125 grain jacketed HP out of a 357 mag, works just as good on pit bulls as it does two legged gremlins, and I have used it on a number of pits.

[billy_56081]

Dan if you have any Korean neighbors see if they can make you some kagogi. Yum Yum, that Korean BBQ sauce makes anything taste good. Helps get rid of the evidence too. 

[victorcharlie]

Have a look at this:

http://www.chattanoogan.com/articles/article_171053.asp

[Siskiyou]

Without a doubt a large wrench will do the job in a jam.

http://auburnjournal.com/detail/141011.html?content_source=&category_id=&search_filter=pit+bull&user_id=&event_mode=&event_ts_from=&event_ts_to=&list_type=&order_by=&order_sort=&content_class=1&sub_type=stories&town_id=

[BoomLover]

Heard tell a can of Wasp Spray is pretty effective...shoots 20 to 25 feet, and acts just like pepper spray or Mace

[Mikey]

Boomlover - you're right!  Wasp and Hornet spray is a great, ummmm, deterrent for people and should work well on dogs.

billy - dang man, I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned Korean neighbors and Kagogi but instead of making Kagogi out of them, just use Kimchi to keep them away and you shouldn't ever have the problem again (lololol).  Kimchi might be the ultimate repellant............................

[billy_56081]

Boomlover - you're right!  Wasp and Hornet spray is a great, ummmm, deterrent for people and should work well on dogs.

billy - dang man, I think you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned Korean neighbors and Kagogi but instead of making Kagogi out of them, just use Kimchi to keep them away and you shouldn't ever have the problem again (lololol).  Kimchi might be the ultimate repellant............................

I know that Kimchi would repel others away from you in PT formation the next morning.

[SHOOTALL]

wrap him up in duct tape . by the time he walks home and has it removed he won't think of comming back.

[Ron 1]

  +1 nw hunter it is not a bread that is bad it is the training or lack of. when i have to protect my ol ladys live stock i dont discrimenate  20 ga horndey sst is great 1 bang and silence has tested true 7 time to date. doggy cops are tired of comming out they told me of the three sss and to help them out.(they wont put it in writting for me) i still think the owners should be punished in some way $$$ becouse they keep getting more dogs and letting them run loose.  shells are getting expensive. good luck oh and by the way i dont have repeat offenders
                                                 rw

[D Crockett]

I have been having trouble with a pit bull around my house it killed one of my cats the other afternoon a old Mexican gentlemen took care of the problem with a 97 Dodge pick up truck found out the next day they had to put the dog down due to internal damage the owner tried to blame it on me but I was on foot and my van was with my wife at her work place so dogs have more that guns pepper spray or baseball bats to look out for D Crockett

[Dee]

So the old Mexican sent the dog to the hospital with fatal injuries, and the dog owner had to pay the bill? Mr. Crockett, does it get any better than that?

[45-70.gov]

my  dad was a doctor
he  got  some kind  of  super  laxative
put it in  meat balls

the neighbors  let the dogs  run and crap in  our yard every morning
before every one went to work for the  day
those  dogs  were  kept  in  the house

the  problem  was  solved once they  discoved  the  source  
of the  house  full  of  diarear

they  put up a fence

[ShadowMover]

Just wondering...is there any chance of making friends with this dog..?

..TM7

I used to work next to a concrete coring company that had the meanest dog I ever saw. He was big, gray with yellow eyes; but I'm not sure what breed that is. This dog was smart and mean. He would wait until you got way into the yard before he would come at you. The dog was on his own territory so being mean was just doing his job. No problem. We worked next store and occasionally we'd have to go retrieve something that ended up in the dog's area. NOBODY wanted to go get the item. A guy I worked with started putting leftover food that he was going to throw away out for the dog, and within a week he and he alone could pet that dog like an old lost friend.  It might be worth a try to have a extra nose, ears, and set of teeth on your side, as TM7 suggested.

[ShadowMover]

my  dad was a doctor
he  got  some kind  of  super  laxative
put it in  meat balls

the neighbors  let the dogs  run and crap in  our yard every morning
before every one went to work for the  day
those  dogs  were  kept  in  the house

the  problem  was  solved once they  discoved  the  source  
of the  house  full  of  diarear
they  put up a fence

I see a few problems with that idea. First you could be arrested for attempted poisoning of a dog. Second you could be subject to damages from a legal action both for damage to the dog and the contents of the house, Third you have let the neighbors know who did it, and probably made them angry at you. I'm happy the neighbors understood the situation and kept their dogs fenced.  Hopefully their dogs never get sick or poisoned, as your Dad would have been the first person to come to mind.. 

You almost have to ask yourself how would I like to have been approached if it had been my dog. People can hold a grudge for a LONG time, and killing a pet is a sure way to get on somebody's grudge list. Anyway, that's my $.02 worth.

[45-70.gov]

he  ask them  nicely

he was the county medical  examiner
and  ahd  connections  and  lawers
that  made him  untouchable
he could have  killled the  dogs
heck  he could have  killed the neighbors
and  got away with it

he  was  arrested  many times
there is  no record  of it  some how

i  still think  what he  did  was  hilarious

[teamnelson]

My dog came home with an arrow through his shoulder once; it wasn't a broadhead, just a fieldpoint. He'd ran off our farm into the national forest/swamp behind us and come back through the neighbors farm. My brother and I were ready to go shoot the neighbor but Dad put it to us right - if you play in the wrong yard, you get what you get. It was a big lab mix, shaggy and black; neighbor claimed he thought it was a bear, which I honestly could see. Blackberry lived a full life after that, just never ran in that direction.

[myronman3]

Just wondering...is there any chance of making friends with this dog..?

..TM7

thanks for the laugh. 

i know it is a hard concept for some, but i have better things to do than try to be nice to people or creatures that come to my home looking for trouble.   
   so dee makes friends with this timebomb....then the damn thing will be around more than it is now.
  i suspect if dee wanted a pit bull, he would own one already. 
  dee-  you aint got this thing buried yet???  it is getting to be almost as bad as the wolves killed in wisconsin.   

[billy_56081]

My neighbors pit bull became very calm natured and nonthreatening. After it died.

[Dee]

Just wondering...is there any chance of making friends with this dog..?

..TM7

The dog is friendly with folks (for now anyway) but, it's the potential around all the small children in the neighborhood, and it wants to argue with other dogs. Why?

[Dee]

Just wondering...is there any chance of making friends with this dog..?

..TM7

I used to work next to a concrete coring company that had the meanest dog I ever saw. He was big, gray with yellow eyes; but I'm not sure what breed that is. This dog was smart and mean. He would wait until you got way into the yard before he would come at you. The dog was on his own territory so being mean was just doing his job. No problem. We worked next store and occasionally we'd have to go retrieve something that ended up in the dog's area. NOBODY wanted to go get the item. A guy I worked with started putting leftover food that he was going to throw away out for the dog, and within a week he and he alone could pet that dog like an old lost friend.  It might be worth a try to have a extra nose, ears, and set of teeth on your side, as TM7 suggested.

Why would I want a pit bull runnin at large in my yard, or my neighborhood? The damn things are menace?

[Dee]

Just wondering...is there any chance of making friends with this dog..?

..TM7

thanks for the laugh. 

i know it is a hard concept for some, but i have better things to do than try to be nice to people or creatures that come to my home looking for trouble.   
   so dee makes friends with this timebomb....then the damn thing will be around more than it is now.
  i suspect if dee wanted a pit bull, he would own one already. 
  dee-  you aint got this thing buried yet???  it is getting to be almost as bad as the wolves killed in wisconsin.   

myronman, they are keeping the dogs up. If they come back the pit will disappear. Trust me.