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« Reply #60 on: March 11, 2010, 04:00:00 AM »
Its a felony to kill a dog in Va. now .
If ya can see it ya can hit it !

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« Reply #61 on: March 11, 2010, 04:48:10 AM »
Its a felony to kill a dog in Va. now .
It should be a felony to own or have a pit bull.  It should be recommended to get rid of them.

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« Reply #62 on: March 11, 2010, 05:36:29 AM »
Its a felony to kill a dog in Va. now .

Man you have to be kidding.
So if it's attacking me I can't protect myself?
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« Reply #63 on: March 11, 2010, 05:36:46 AM »
I have dealt with a few nasty dogs.  Hose down a pack (6) of pit bulls with pepper spray.  They beat a retreat and head into the owner’s house for a hug!  The other small tool that has worked is a little electronic device that put out a tone most guys cannot hear, but dogs do not like it, and blondes start rotating their heads.

Fellow office shot an attacking pit bull shattering the lower jaw, dog beat feet in the brush and a lot of effort went into hunting it down and completing the job.

When possible I prefer not to shoot them because they are normally found in populated areas and my bullet might take out an innocent.  

Drove up to a place that had two very large, aggressive Rottweilers.   While still in my vehicle I used my little low profile electronic device.  The dogs backed off, and I heard a yelp from my female partner.  Checked her out and she was plastered against the window.  I guess it works on most women because they have better hearing than men.

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I have used it to train a neighbor’s dog.  Dog no longer does his business in my yard.  Dog sleeps out on the street, but he just sees me on the street and he beats feet back into his yard.  Funny how it works on the old dog, squeeze the trigger and the dog rotates its head around.  Another squeeze and the dog heads home, no loud bang, and nobody calling the sheriff because shoots have been fired.  Sure wished I had one as a kid delivering papers.
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« Reply #64 on: March 11, 2010, 05:42:08 AM »
the ladie that had a face tranceplant had a little dog eat her face off right i have a yellow lab best dog you can have
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« Reply #65 on: March 11, 2010, 05:43:27 AM »
I have dealt with a few nasty dogs.  Hose down a pack (6) of pit bulls with pepper spray.  They beat a retreat and head into the owner’s house for a hug!  The other small tool that has worked is a little electronic device that put out a tone most guys cannot hear, but dogs do not like it, and blondes start rotating their heads.

Fellow office shot an attacking pit bull shattering the lower jaw, dog beat feet in the brush and a lot of effort went into hunting it down and completing the job.

When possible I prefer not to shoot them because they are normally found in populated areas and my bullet might take out an innocent.  

Drove up to a place that had two very large, aggressive Rottweilers.   While still in my vehicle I used my little low profile electronic device.  The dogs backed off, and I heard a yelp from my female partner.  Checked her out and she was plastered against the window.  I guess it works on most women because they have better hearing than men.

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I have used it to train a neighbor’s dog.  Dog no longer does his business in my yard.  Dog sleeps out on the street, but he just sees me on the street and he beats feet back into his yard.  Funny how it works on the old dog, squeeze the trigger and the dog rotates its head around.  Another squeeze and the dog heads home, no loud bang, and nobody calling the sheriff because shoots have been fired.  Sure wished I had one as a kid delivering papers.

The trouble with the noisemaker is that the dog runs off mad and then attacks some child.  The only way to stop that is to outlaw the dang things.

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« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2010, 05:54:19 AM »
Having used mine on a number of dogs I have never seen one run off mad, in fact they are rather subdued.  In the world of raiding drug houses and weed patches after the arrest the defense attorneys throw up a lot of flack to get the their client off.  Never have I heard of compliant because the device was used.  The dogs do not like them, and stay out of the way.  Never has there been an allegation that the dog ran off and attacks somebody else.

Of course this comes from using and being around other officers using the device; might call it street and field experience.
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« Reply #67 on: March 11, 2010, 06:05:46 AM »
Having used mine on a number of dogs I have never seen one run off mad, in fact they are rather subdued.  In the world of raiding drug houses and weed patches after the arrest the defense attorneys throw up a lot of flack to get the their client off.  Never have I heard of compliant because the device was used.  The dogs do not like them, and stay out of the way.  Never has there been an allegation that the dog ran off and attacks somebody else.

Of course this comes from using and being around other officers using the device; might call it street and field experience.

I was just speaking hypothetically.  I'd rather the dogs weren't around altogether, that's all.

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« Reply #68 on: March 11, 2010, 06:09:57 AM »
   the real solution is to let responsible citizens defend themselves and their neighbors.   if you ward off a dog and it wanders down the street, and later mangles someone else's family member; is chasing it out of your yard the right thing to do?   when it comes to any breed dog, if it is acting like a menace it will meet it's end really fast around me.  
   as a responsible member of the community, i see it as my duty to my neighbors to resolve situations like these.  turning your back to a problem is just contributing to said problem.  
  
   oh, and chows suck; even worse than pits.   i will kill every pit, chow, shar pei, and every other aggressive dog i get a chance to; along with stray cats.   and i will do it any way i can.  

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« Reply #69 on: March 11, 2010, 07:01:57 AM »
I don't like them wouldn't have one around. So no one else should be allowed to have one ! Sounds just like the anti-gun folks to me! What give you folks the right to tell someone else what they can have or do?
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« Reply #70 on: March 11, 2010, 07:14:49 AM »
OLD FART , I think in self defense you are ok in most cases , but nusiance dogs no . You call the dog warden and in some areas he shoots them in others he traps them then takes them away and shoots them . Seems dog wardens tell trappers if no collar on a traped dog kill it save him the trouble . Like most laws just don't get caught .
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« Reply #71 on: March 11, 2010, 07:15:59 AM »
BTW i don't shoot dogs , don't shoot elephants either , just don't see um .
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« Reply #72 on: March 11, 2010, 07:25:47 AM »
  I agree with that beerbelly. You hear a lot about Rotts too. I have owned two. The most friendly dogs i have owned. Yes they were very protective of my wife and i. Still don't think they would bite anyone. Before my wife passed away the visiting nurse showed up three times a week. The Rotts would stand next to my wife while the nurse did what she had to do. You stand a better chance of being bit by one of the beagles i now own.
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« Reply #73 on: March 11, 2010, 07:34:39 AM »
+1 with beerbelly and bobg. While I have no disire to ever own one, if an owner can keep it controlled, in a fenced in yard,on a leash,whatever. Have at it. However, if it gets loose, and threatens me or family, the police do not have to be called. If you want your dog back, he's taking a dirt nap somewhere in my back 40. gypsyman
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« Reply #74 on: March 11, 2010, 08:22:28 AM »
I don't like them wouldn't have one around. So no one else should be allowed to have one ! Sounds just like the anti-gun folks to me! What give you folks the right to tell someone else what they can have or do?
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« Reply #75 on: March 11, 2010, 08:28:40 AM »
I know of a guy near me that has wolves , they are huge . The fence is 8 foot and cemented at the ground .
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« Reply #76 on: March 11, 2010, 08:31:00 AM »
I know of a guy near me that has wolves , they are huge . The fence is 8 foot and cemented at the ground .
And he has to have a license to have them I'm sure....with regular inspections etc.

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« Reply #77 on: March 11, 2010, 08:46:20 AM »
To tell the truth not sure , I have heard people talk about getting one but they never said anything about a lic . They do say it can only 90 some % wolf though .
They don't act like dogs either , they have a way of looking at you that is very unnerving .
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« Reply #78 on: March 11, 2010, 09:28:30 AM »
After several children were killed and mauled Alaska outlawed wolf hybrids.
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« Reply #79 on: March 11, 2010, 09:35:18 AM »
GOOD IDEA !
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« Reply #81 on: March 11, 2010, 02:54:33 PM »
When I lived in DC, a co-worker was having problems with a neighbors pit bull dog.  Police was not doing anything.  You were not allowed to have guns in DC at that time.  One evening after work we changed the anti-freeze in his truck.  While it was draining we went inside and had a beer.  Sure enough the dog came over, and went after the anti-freeze.  When we came back out, the dog went back outside and jumped the fence back into it's own yard.

Next morning, no more dog problem.
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« Reply #82 on: March 11, 2010, 03:02:34 PM »
I talked to the city again today, and they told me to protect my property however, I saw fit concerning the dog, which was somewhat subliminal if you know what I mean, but they also have advised the owner that the fine for both dogs (the pit has a little runnin buddy) would be $500.00 each if there is another offense. I like that. I may wait.
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« Reply #83 on: March 11, 2010, 03:17:50 PM »
My brother had a neighbor once with many cats.   MANY cats.  My brother also had an "upstairs" deck.  He also had a bow.  Now he doesn't have as many cats........and he's a better archer for it! ;D
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« Reply #84 on: March 11, 2010, 03:26:00 PM »
Same for Chows.

I agree regarding both Pits and Chows.
Good friend of mine is a police officer, He had owned a Chow he personally raised since it was a few weeks old , when the dog was about 8 years old he was walking out of the house through his garage getting ready to head off to work , the dog attacked him went right for his throat , took him over his woodpile in the garage , he raised his arm to protect his throat . The dog gave him multiple bites on the for arm  and ripped all the tendons and muscles between his thumb and finger on his gun hand. Needless to say the chow never saw another dawn.

Every Rottie I have ever met are just big babies. even the ones who try to act tough. No Idea why they gained a reputation. There is a big difference between a protective dog and a aggressive dog. Pits and Chows are inherently the latter and I have no use for 'em.

One of the best protective dog I ever owned was an Airedale.. you could literally trust that dog with your baby ..but don't you ever try to enter my house without being welcomed in.  Once you were welcomed in he immediately reverted back to family pet. Most amazing thing I ever saw. somehow the dog just inherently knew , protect and defend but never attack.
I miss him to this day,  what a great dog.

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http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/americas/01/04/boy.cougar.attack/index.html
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« Reply #85 on: March 11, 2010, 04:20:11 PM »
I had problems with lose dogs they useally come in my yard and crap by the front steps  and mark up the place then pass through the back yard and crawl in my neighbors meat cach and drag caribou bones all over, our town has a pet law the dog has to be either chained up, on a leash or under direct voice command.

Once I had changed a radiator hose in the back yard and had some dirty old antfreeze sitting in a old plastic icecream pail sitting next to the shop, one the lose neighborhood dogs from up the street was very sick for a couple weeks, I also noticed that the antifreeze had disappeard about the same time he was feeling poorly, Ya know them loose dogs can get into stuff that can hurt them.

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« Reply #86 on: March 11, 2010, 06:30:10 PM »
Same for Chows.

Every Rottie I have ever met are just big babies. even the ones who try to act tough. No Idea why they gained a reputation. There is a big difference between a protective dog and a aggressive dog. Pits and Chows are inherently the latter and I have no use for 'em.



Dogs are a lot like kids! It's how we raise them, that helps mold them into what they become.
Back when the Pit type dogs were bred, they were used for fighting other dogs (Not People) If a dog was found aggressive to the handler, they were killed. They wanted a dog to fight dogs "Not people"

I have owned and trained more Labs than any other breed of dogs, and let me tell you, they can be made aggressive also. I wouldn't do it, but I have seen it done!

The problem with a Pit is, they have the tools to be very bad dog's, and the Gang Banger thugs that still raise them for fighting and as status symbol's have produced what we see and read about today.

When we outlawthe Pit Bull, there will be another monster to take it's place. People are the problem............Not the dog.

If Dee's neighbors had been responsible pet owners, he wouldn't need to shoot the dogs, but since you cannot shoot the Owner (Damn It) That leaves the dog. I don't think Dee will take any pleasure shooting the dog, but he is forced to take care of the problem it would appear!

By the way Scootrd! Here is a little history on the APBT

APBTs in History

Pit bulls were once a sign of dignity and strength to the United States and for the people therein. The never-quit attitude that they held was a statement towards the United States. They were once posted in advertisements, on magazines, and in movies.

Today, people fear the breed. They fear the myths surrounding the breed. They fear the bad reputation surrounding the breed.

They were once, highly dignified and loved.



Popsicle is the number one US customs dog. She was found in a freezer during a drug raid by Buffalo police in 1997. They found Popsicle as a 5 month old puppy, who quickly became a favorite. He graduated his training at the Canine Enforcement Training Center in Front Royal, Virginia, and went to work with his handler, J.J., in Texas.

RCA is a certified hearing dog in Alaska

Tahoe, Cheyenne, and Dakota are all search and rescue dogs in Sacramento, California. The three pit bulls worked none stop at the World Trade Center and Pentagon after 9/11.

Bud was the first dog to travel cross country in 1903.

Sergeant Stubby died on March 16, 1926, as a hero, yet today, many people do not know who he is. Sergeant Stubby is the most decorated dog in military history, and the only dog to have been promoted during battle. He fought for 18 months in the trenches for France during WW1 for 17 battles. Stubby warned his fellow soldiers of gas attacks, located wounded soldiers in No Man's Land, and listened for oncoming artillery rounds. He was also responsible for the capture of a German spy at Argonne. After his time in the war, Stubby met Woodrow Wilson, Calvin Coolidge, and Warren G. Harding. He was, also, made a life member of the American Legion, the Red Cross, and the YMCA.


Celebrity Owned Pit Bulls

    * Theodore Roosevelt
    * Woodrow Wilson and General George Patton owned Pit's.
   

In Movies, Advertisements, and TV

Pit bulls have come across the big screen as well as printed material with a BAM...

    * Petey from The Little Rascals was a Pit
    * Tige- Buster Brown Shoe advertisements
    * Life magazine- Many people don't realize the the American pit bull terrier is the only breed that has been on the cover of Times for three issues.
    * Poster image for the U.S. during the 1900's. The American pit bull was the image people saw on various war posters, representing the country's strength and dignity

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Re: My Neighbors Pit Bull Dog.
« Reply #87 on: March 11, 2010, 11:44:19 PM »
People learn. D++n a pit. eddie
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« Reply #88 on: March 12, 2010, 04:57:21 AM »
When I 'judge' dogs I simply look to see if its mouth is bigger then my foot.  If there is any chance this dog can bite my foot off when I kick it I don't want it around me!  I see no need to label specific breeds due to how an animal behaves is often a direct reflection of how it was treated so even the calmest breeds can become violent.  I just have a problem with big dogs.  Anyone can step out of line, but if I can physically keep them in check then they dont' need to be around me.  Seems to be an easy rule for me to follow as I have never been bitten!

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« Reply #89 on: March 12, 2010, 08:39:18 AM »
Heather,

Dogs are quicker than people by far. You kick at the dog and you may need to stop the bleeding of one of the major arteries in your foot rather than be able to fight.

Dogs are generaly unpredictable especially when they are penned most of the time. Add to that dogs that have been selectively breed for fighting, pain tolerance and never give up tenasity (and then make them a male with an in season female in the area) and you can't make a safe prediction.

I have seen a pack of hog hunting trained, pen kept, Catahoolas running through a neighborhood among playing kids looking for a female in season. It's scarey.

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