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Best Factor Trigger

Sako/Tikka
26 (35.6%)
Remington
8 (11%)
Winchester
1 (1.4%)
CZ
11 (15.1%)
Howa/Vanguard
2 (2.7%)
Savage
17 (23.3%)
Ruger
8 (11%)

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Voting closed: May 14, 2006, 05:07:33 AM

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Offline DirtyHarry

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« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2006, 09:21:32 PM »
I cant believe that 6 people voted for RUGER.... :shock:
I would rate a crossman pellet gun higher than a ruger for best factory trigger...
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« Reply #31 on: May 31, 2006, 04:06:26 PM »
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I cant believe that 6 people voted for RUGER.... :shock:
I would rate a crossman pellet gun higher than a ruger for best factory trigger...


LOL. I agree.  When I put up Ruger as a choice, I really didn't think that anybody would vote for it because most people I know say that Ruger has the worst triggers.

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« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2006, 06:01:36 PM »
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I cant believe that 6 people voted for RUGER....


Me either. Must be the only rifle they have ever shot. I have one Ruger model 77 in a 7 mm mag and as it came from the factory it felt like I needed to put my foot against a tree to get enough leverage to pull the trigger on the thing. Felt like about 10 lbs. I have since replaced it with a custom trigger. I voted for Sako/Tikka. Easily adjusted down to 2lbs with one allen wrench and crisp. Best I've ever seen on a standard factory rifle.

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« Reply #33 on: June 02, 2006, 01:22:44 PM »
Savage Accu-triggers rock. :grin:  8)

Just won a new Model 114 American Classic 270 Win. at an NRA banquet. SWEETEST trigger I ever felt from a non-worked on factory rifle.

For all you fella's who despise Ruger triggers,  what year was your rifle made?

I have 2 M77's, one from the 60's and one I bought new 88 (both tang safeties).  I have NO complaints about either trigger.  I believe it was in the 90's that Ruger "Lawyerized" their triggers. :(

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« Reply #34 on: June 02, 2006, 06:38:37 PM »
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Savage Accu-triggers rock. :grin:  8)

Just won a new Model 114 American Classic 270 Win. at an NRA banquet. SWEETEST trigger I ever felt from a non-worked on factory rifle.Dave


I couldnt agree more!! and when they first came out I had a pre-conceived dislike for them just from the look, but once I actually fired a Savage with the accu-trigger I had to have one, then another and another... :grin:



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For all you fella's who despise Ruger triggers,  what year was your rifle made?Dave


I had a circa:early 80's and 2 circa:mid 90's and have shot ones from pretty much all decades of manufacture, I cant remember any having an acceptable factory trigger.
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« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2006, 05:50:40 AM »
Everyone in this poll that has actually tried all the triggers picked the CZ. It is that much better. I have two and they both go from 2 1/2 lbs to 8 to 12 ozs. when in the set position. The Savage accutrigger, the Kimber or any of the others are not close to the CZ.All the others besides the Tikka does not deserve mention.

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« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2006, 03:35:32 PM »
So the poll should be only include CZ and Tikka.  Since I do not care for set triggers (for my use), it sure narrows the choices alright. :shock:
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« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2006, 04:39:10 PM »
Do you really think you could use a set trigger in a real world hunting situation when you only have a second or two to aim and fire???

I do not see using a set trigger for hunting.  Maybe if you are hunting where game is slow moving or hunting from a distance.  Where I hunt you may only have a few seconds to get on the game and fire.  

Under these contidions my Sako and Tikka is about perfect.  Both mine are set to 1.75 pounds.
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« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2006, 04:54:21 PM »
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Do you really think you could use a set trigger in a real world hunting situation when you only have a second or two to aim and fire???

I.
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 NOPE but I can see takin a snap shot at running game with a rifle that has a 1.5#  trigger and shooting the ground cause your glove bumped the deathtrap trigger prematurly.

 that's what is so great about CZ's trigger you have a CHOICE set it when you need it, leave it alone when you don't. Both sets are fully adjustable. SO you can dial in a trigger that is every bit as good as the Tikka but then you can set it for an even better pull.

 So again how is the Sako/Tikka trigger better? Seeing as the CZ trigger can do everything they can do,but they cannot do what the CZ's trigger can

 I've tried the AccuGLOCK trigger and I just cannot warm up to it.

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« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2006, 01:55:37 PM »
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Under these contidions my Sako and Tikka is about perfect.  Both mine are set to 1.75 pounds.


I know that everyone is different, and I certainly respect that.  Heck, I know many people that think that 4 pounds is way to light for them as they like 5 pound triggers!  

But 1.75 pounds?  Wow, that's pretty light.  The heaviest trigger I have is 3.5  pounds, and that's on a .375H&H Mag.  Most all of the others are 3.0 pounds, with 2.5 the lightest.  I think that anything under 2.5 is too light for hunting.  I would be very nervous about a 1.75 pound trigger on a hunting rifle.  

But that brings up an interesting question that is relevant to this topic:

What is the lightest trigger pull you feel comfortable with on your hunting rifle?

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« Reply #40 on: June 07, 2006, 02:18:54 PM »
Most of my rifle hunting is deer hunting, and most of my deer hunting I am in a treestand in cold weather.  I keep a handwarmer in my trigger hand pocket and do not wear a glove on that hand.  My deer rifles vary from 2.25 to about 3.5#.  My bolt action 12 gauge slug gun I never measured - my guess is right about 4#, and like dragging a 2X4 through 3/4"crushed stone.  But it sure is accurate, so it works!
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« Reply #41 on: June 07, 2006, 02:19:49 PM »
For me a nice crispy trigger that pulls between 3 to 4 LBS is just about ideal for a hunting rifle.  Either that or a GOOD two stage.

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« Reply #42 on: June 07, 2006, 02:49:40 PM »
I voted for Sako.

I'm comfortable with my .308 trigger set at 2lb.
I can adjust it down to 1.5lbs for range shooting.

I shoot a lot. most weeks, with silhouette and 4P rifles, and off the bench, with Anschutz triggers down to ounces, so I'm pretty used to light triggers.
My Vanguard .223 is set at 3.25lbs (won't go any lighter), but what surprises me is that I manage to get .5 MOA with it. Just takes a bit of getting used to. I'm saving for a Timney which will adjust down to 1.5lbs.
Somebody with larger and stronger fingers would probably feel more comfortable with their trigger set heavier.
I have owned and used Brno (CZ) set triggers. They're OK, in some situations,

but for simplicity, and lock time, IMHO, you can't beat a Sako Hunting rig.

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« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2006, 01:30:54 PM »
1.75 pounds isn't as bad as you my think.  I would suggest that not everyone shoot this light of a trigger.  I shoot ALOT.  I will go through several pounds of powder a year so I know my rifles.

I few notes to here...

I don't hunt with gloves or use anything that would cause issues with my light triggers.   I do say that I have not seen any factury rifle that can be adjusted as low as the Sako or Tikka.  I have a shooting range in my back yard and several people come to shoot and I get to handle and shoot may guns.  I have adjusted more triggers than I can count including one of the new Savage triggers.  Not one has been able to go as low as my Sako.  My Finnlight 270 will go to just over 1 POUND!!!  Even at that it is still very crisp and beaks consistant.
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« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2006, 02:46:07 AM »
I only have experience with Remington, Winchester 70 and Ruger tang safety models in bolt actions. I voted for the Remington, not because the trigger is best 'out of the box', but because it's easiest of the three I know about to adjust to a satisfactory level of weight and backlash. Who doesn't 'adjust' their factory triggers? Out of the box, you still have to insert the bolt, after all!!

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« Reply #45 on: June 27, 2006, 04:17:08 PM »
I usually shoot every week and most of the time I am shooting benchrest rifles with trigger pulls from 2 to 12 ozs. I would not hesitate to use one of the 12 oz. trigger pulls while stand hunting because I am so used to them. I certainly would not suggest this for hunters that are not used to the light pulls.

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« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2006, 02:23:31 AM »
I LIKED the triggers on my Ruger #3 and pre 64 Savage.  :D
Bold talk from a one eyed fat man.

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« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2006, 01:50:08 PM »
Well, so far it seems that Sako/Tikka are holding a sizeable lead in first, although, interestingly enought, Savage is in second, and Remington in third.

Personally, I just can't get passed that "trigger within a trigger" Savage trigger concept.

Just out of curiosity, for those of you who voted for Savage, do you also own (or ever used) a Sako/Tikka trigger?


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Just out of curiosity, for those of you who voted for Sako/Tikka , do you also own (or ever used) a Savage accu-trigger?
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« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2006, 04:19:33 PM »
As I stated all of the rifles I have shot/owned and I did not include owning a Savage.  But have pulled the trigger on many of them as I tried to convince myself to buy one several times.  Not trying to be offensive but, to me, they look cheap and feel cheap.  I know they won some award etc..... but to me the accutrigger is one more thing that can screw up in a hunting scenerio.

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« Reply #49 on: July 20, 2006, 03:08:00 AM »
Zack it is not as easy to find a newer USED bargain savage with the accutrigger...I have shot a few & I like them well enough..I use the SAV-2 replacement trigger on a couple of savage/stevens rifles I rebuilt from the action up...I'm still looking for perfection in a replacement trigger for a savage rifle..It must be out there..Yesterday I had 3 differant triggers at the range..tuned up sako...Timney reg model...Sav-2 ...For all the money & time I put into this..the Sako factory trigger is still the best feel..My only complaint with it is it could be wider..for a dedicated varmint rifle the feel is too slim for my taste..still it is hands down the smoothest slickest trigger I own...The timney is not safe below a couple of pounds of pull in the remington...& the SAV-2 from rifle basix...Has a funny 3 position pin system...my unit will not work in the 3rd hole which is the lightest mechanical position available with that unit...I put the same sav-2 into a stevens short action my buddy owns..in the 3rd hole that trigger is sweet...Go fihure that out...The Savage short action it is a no go in the cheaper stevens it is fully adjustable...my luck, mike in ct....

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« Reply #50 on: July 20, 2006, 03:08:32 PM »
It's interesting to note that Savage is currently doing quite well, although not nearly as well as Sako/Tikka.  Remington is ranked very low, with Ruger - which is pretty bad.  I think that we may be at a point where I can forward this info to Remington.  I wonder what Remington would say.

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« Reply #51 on: July 21, 2006, 02:55:49 AM »
Save your energy Zack..those guys quit caring years ago..Buy an older remington...& add the barrel trigger & stock you want...I have all but given up on new guns...It is always one thing or another...At least with an old rifle you get some sort of break on the price & it offsets the improvements you will have to make...That & for the money some Cooper rifles are a bargain....Anything up to about 1600 bucks when you can find them...It is on par with sako for price & the custom features built in with a quality barrel & first rate chambering job assure the buyer of a problem free rifle out of the box...That is the only rifle I could tell someone to buy & be resonably sure he is going to get a good solid shooter...without rebuilding the whole thing...That or buy from a shop that will at least let you return any problem guns with no hassles...One of the dealers up here treats me very well with used guns..New stuff you order it u own it..They make like ten percent on new so you can't hang the guy on special order stuff..But there is nothing wrong in asking for a no hassle money back garrentee on used rifles..hell he makes more on the stuff you need to get one set up so ...Be good Be polite & business people will do biz....RemCHesterUgerheadaches...they all need something done to them to get them to shoot...let the buyer beware, mike in ct

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« Reply #52 on: July 22, 2006, 04:42:01 PM »
The best factory trigger belongs to the Colt light rifle.  Most trigger pulls increase in weight until they release.  On a Colt Light Rifle, there is no increase in weight of pull.  It just pulls smoothly and without increase in weight until you are suprised by a loud noise and a recoiling rifle.  You have to try it to believe it.  These Colt rifles are a cake in wolves clothing, or somethin like that.

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« Reply #53 on: July 28, 2006, 04:16:04 AM »
I have Browning, Tikka, Remington, Winchester and Marlin.  On the top is Browning and Tikka which account for most of my inventory. At the bottom is my Marlin 1895 - it has the creep and the pull is heavy (so as the recoil).

All my triggers are factory setting and no attenpts have been made to adjust them.

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« Reply #54 on: August 18, 2006, 12:03:14 PM »
the best factory trigger is on Sako and Tikka; the worst is on Ruger, but there are many semi-autos (most) that are just as bad.

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« Reply #55 on: August 21, 2006, 08:37:44 AM »
I agree with anweis.

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« Reply #56 on: August 21, 2006, 01:56:35 PM »
 My best factory trigger is on 2 older Sako's , I don't have much expierence with new rifles other than the Ruger with the 2 stage trigger which has a longer pull than I like

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« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2006, 01:17:08 PM »
My gunsmith agrees with slabside that the Rem. 700 trigger is one of the easiest to work on and will nearly always yield a clean, crisp pull. Our relationship got strained when I brought him a Vanguard to work on as he doesn't like its design and couldn't eliminate a tiny trace of creep. The problem was solved with a Timney trigger which is ultra crisp in this particular rifle. I should have gone Timney to begin with - google and you'll find the internet is full of criticism of Vanguard triggers. The poll rankings are accurate. The Finn rifles are the best( or at least look the best) and Savage accutrigger is good out of the box and pull can be easily adjusted by just about anyone.

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« Reply #58 on: September 03, 2006, 08:12:40 AM »
Tuning a Rem trigger is one of the easiest things Ive ever done. I can do it now in about 15 minutes, that includes taking down the rifle, putting it back together, and testing it(thrashing it around) to make sure it doesnt fire. I keep them all around 3.5 lbs pull.

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« Reply #59 on: September 06, 2006, 05:30:24 AM »
Most of my rifles are Rem. and afew others like Sako, Wby,and one Win. If I had any problems with any trigger I would adjust it to a pressure that I like. So to me they they're all the about the same.
Witch ever one I'm shooting is the one I like.