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Re: custom handi calibers
« Reply #60 on: June 24, 2021, 06:48:56 PM »
I had my NEF converted to 30/30 A.I. I don't know why, maybe because I wanted one for years and the gunsmith did it for free.....

If I could get that kind of deal, I'd have mine done too.  I'm not to sure I could do it myself and not screw it up.

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« Reply #61 on: August 24, 2021, 01:56:03 AM »
32 H&R and 7/30 Waters are two calibers Ill forever feel H&R really missed the boat on!!  Today Id grab a 327 Fed in a NY Minute!!!
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« Reply #62 on: August 29, 2021, 02:26:22 AM »
I would still totally jump on a .32H&R Mag barrel.

Probably would only shoot .32sw longs in it although I do have 100 new Starline brass in .32H&R Mag that could be loaded for it.

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« Reply #63 on: August 29, 2021, 10:37:57 AM »
I would Immediately ream to 327 and shoot all of them! ;)
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Re: custom handi calibers
« Reply #64 on: February 11, 2023, 11:28:57 PM »
I’ve got myself a 358 win.

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« Reply #65 on: February 12, 2023, 12:01:23 AM »
I would Immediately ream to 327 and shoot all of them! ;)

You know, Chazel sells an insert barrel in 327 for your shotgun. And you are correct, you can chamber: .32s&w, .32s&w long, 32 h&r mag, 327 mag, and 32 auto. That's really flexible IMO. Should work well in my Tracker I h&r. I'm looking forward to trying mine out.

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Re: custom handi calibers
« Reply #66 on: June 30, 2023, 06:48:55 AM »
   I told myself NO MORE but my mind starts turning and I get ideas…..  I do have a lonely 20 ga. H&R topper and a 7mm barrel blank sitting around collecting dust so maybe one more shotgun to rifle project, this one will be in 7-30 Waters.  In a single shot rifle with no OAL restrictions and the abilities to use pointed bullets it should be a perfect choice for most of my deer hunting needs.
The only thing is I have 3 or 4 dozen other rifles that will do the same.  :o
Anyway it will probably be winter time before I start it. I have the shotgun, the barrel, the ejector ( 30-30 ), and a scope base already sitting around, and I just bought a die set for it, I may have to rent the reamer.

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Re: custom handi calibers
« Reply #67 on: September 11, 2024, 03:41:02 PM »
Jed,
  I just finished a 7-30 Waters Handi stub build. It has potential to become a favorite amongst favorites.

I have a few oddballs like 348 Win, 7-30 Waters, 360 Buckhammer, and a 45cal smokeless muzzleloader made from a 45-70 barrel.

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« Reply #68 on: September 11, 2024, 04:19:52 PM »
If I didn't have what I already have,
I'd find a Handi to make a 360BH.

I pretty much have all the animals
in my region covered right now
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« Reply #69 on: September 12, 2024, 05:00:17 AM »
  The Handis were a great design and value.  Has there cropped up yet, a suitable replacement?  As of now, i have only one remaining...a Versa-pack..

   I do have a CVA in .44 Mag, and it is good for that task...but for rimfires, were they available, a lighter frame would be more desireable.
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« Reply #70 on: September 12, 2024, 08:40:57 AM »
A friend has a stainless cva 45/70.
Comparing it to my H&R 444, it
seems clunkier putting it to my
shoulder. Maybe just perception,
I don't know. Might be sturdier
heavier material. Don't know about
that either. Mine shoots as well
as many other rifles I've shot of
different actions, and I've killed
a good many deer and swine with
it at one round each expended.
I don't know the stats for his, or
if he's even tried to hunt with it.
Henrys are good looking, and
well built ( according to those
I know that have one)
I'm not fond of the "beavertail"
barrel latch lever after using the
H&R/NEF thumb lever for so
many years. It doesn't drive
back into the web of my hand.
Also, those few I know with a
Henry say that it's heavy and
unwieldy after toting it for a
few hours. ( no experience
with that myself)
Even Dave Canterbury says that
" carrying a Henry is like carrying
a brick "
Everybody's different
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Re: custom handi calibers
« Reply #71 on: September 12, 2024, 02:10:08 PM »
A friend has a stainless cva 45/70.
Comparing it to my H&R 444, it
seems clunkier putting it to my
shoulder. Maybe just perception,
I don't know. Might be sturdier
heavier material. Don't know about
that either. Mine shoots as well
as many other rifles I've shot of
different actions, and I've killed
a good many deer and swine with
it at one round each expended.
I don't know the stats for his, or
if he's even tried to hunt with it.
Henrys are good looking, and
well built ( according to those
I know that have one)
I'm not fond of the "beavertail"
barrel latch lever after using the
H&R/NEF thumb lever for so
many years. It doesn't drive
back into the web of my hand.
Also, those few I know with a
Henry say that it's heavy and
unwieldy after toting it for a
few hours. ( no experience
with that myself)
Even Dave Canterbury says that
" carrying a Henry is like carrying
a brick "
Everybody's different
   
  I think you may be right, my .44 seems a bit clunkier than the old H&Rs...which ios why I said for sure..for rimfires a lighter, handier frame would be required.
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« Reply #72 on: September 12, 2024, 03:28:01 PM »
Yeah,  everybody's different though.
I know some people that tell me my Handis
are too lightweight. Yeah, if you're firing
repeatedly off of a benchrest, yes it
would be. I always tell them that when I
am shooting one after another that I
wear a PAST pad and there's practically
no recoil.  I never feel any recoil in the
field shooting an animal the one time.
CVA might have made those rifles
heavier on purpose for shooter comfort
at the bench. I don't know.
My scoped 444 H&R with one up the
spout and 5 in the stock sleeve and a
scope weighs a smidge less than 8 pounds
on my cheesy fish scale. Too much
for some, not enough for others.
It's been a good one after the factory
fixed their mistake under the new
warranty. Can't remember exactly,
but I think that the man ( Brian?)
that was a H&R repair tech and
posted on GB replaced my barrel
and tweaked it some because after
sending a few downrange like the
others suggested, it's a tack driving
meat machine. I'd genuinely hate
for it to be gone
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Re: custom handi calibers
« Reply #73 on: February 23, 2025, 07:04:12 AM »
 I did finish the 7-30 Waters barrel and it shoots great, I took 2 deer with it in 2024.
I do have a project handi barrel that I bought from a friend that needs a working extractor that will work with a belted case. I have made several from other caliber extractors that I am trying to catch the cartridge case by the shallow groove behind the belt but so far it’s not reliable enough.
 It’s a 44 cal. barrel and I might cut it like a stub and then reuse the barrel and stub it back together and make it a 44 magnum ?  It would likely finish at 18” and be quite usable and more desirable than what it is now.

 I do have a really nice tapered octagon barrel in 357 bore that I haven’t found a home for yet but I don’t think it will be used for a handi barrel. I do have a German made martini schuetzen rifle that’s chambered in 22 K hornet that I have already started to rebarrel in 256 win mag but now thinking that the tapered octagon barrel would look really good of this rifle instead.
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« Reply #74 on: February 23, 2025, 07:24:57 AM »
Yeah,  everybody's different though.
I know some people that tell me my Handis
are too lightweight. Yeah, if you're firing
repeatedly off of a benchrest, yes it
would be. I always tell them that when I
am shooting one after another that I
wear a PAST pad and there's practically
no recoil.  I never feel any recoil in the
field shooting an animal the one time.
CVA might have made those rifles
heavier on purpose for shooter comfort
at the bench. I don't know.
My scoped 444 H&R with one up the
spout and 5 in the stock sleeve and a
scope weighs a smidge less than 8 pounds
on my cheesy fish scale. Too much
for some, not enough for others.
It's been a good one after the factory
fixed their mistake under the new
warranty. Can't remember exactly,
but I think that the man ( Brian?)
that was a H&R repair tech and
posted on GB replaced my barrel
and tweaked it some because after
sending a few downrange like the
others suggested, it's a tack driving
meat machine. I'd genuinely hate
for it to be gone

   Well; 30 years ago the CVA would have seemed light..but now in my high 80s..it is considerable heavier !  :D ;D

  Which reminds me of a couple years ago, when ouir Legion post received some M1 garands for ceremonial usage.  Seems like all we gray heads remarked upon how much heavier they are now, than they were back when we were using them every day..   ;) ;D

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« Reply #75 on: February 23, 2025, 10:41:40 AM »
I do like a light rifle, and if it’s not light it needs to be not forward heavy for me or I won’t use it much and don’t need to as I’m spoilt.

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« Reply #76 on: February 25, 2025, 01:13:31 PM »
I went back and checked my previous post and saw that I hadn't listed one of my favorites; a 9.3x74R.
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« Reply #77 on: February 26, 2025, 02:50:50 AM »
As asked, is anyone making a single shot shotgun or rifle like the Handy anymore? 
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« Reply #78 on: February 26, 2025, 04:17:13 AM »
As asked, is anyone making a single shot shotgun or rifle like the Handy anymore?

  I guess Henry and Thompson Center qualify, albeit a bit more costly. Then there is CVA..... and don't forget Rossi..

   https://rossiusa.com/rifles/single-shot-rifles

  And it looks like Traditions is trying to copy CVA.. 

    https://www.traditionsfirearms.com/category/Cartridge-Rifles
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« Reply #79 on: February 26, 2025, 05:10:08 AM »
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« Reply #80 on: February 26, 2025, 08:55:05 AM »
The Turkish Gforce.... https://gforcearms.com/firearms/rifles/gftxp-rifle/

  THose look real nice Quick...   Perhaps the closest thing to the old H & R rifles.  Are they widely available ?
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« Reply #81 on: February 26, 2025, 09:58:10 AM »
Rock Island has a fine looking shotgun...looks suspiciously like Gforce..

  In any case, Iwonder when Rock Island will start a rifle line on this base...   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mM7YD2qc_eQ&t=182s
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« Reply #82 on: February 26, 2025, 12:14:10 PM »
As asked, is anyone making a single shot shotgun or rifle like the Handy anymore?

Rossi, and CVA although just like others there may be some fitting involved if not from the factory. Thompson Center is supposedly/eventually coming out with something? Although there are plenty of barrel makers and frame makers for both and plenty of used on the market.

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« Reply #83 on: February 27, 2025, 04:57:07 AM »
The Turkish Gforce.... https://gforcearms.com/firearms/rifles/gftxp-rifle/

  THose look real nice Quick...   Perhaps the closest thing to the old H & R rifles.  Are they widely available ?

There are a few online sources that say they have some in stock, their dealer locator shows a few local dealers that may be able to get them.

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=GFTXP
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« Reply #84 on: March 18, 2025, 04:10:35 AM »
 If you keep watching and searching you can find used handis for reasonable prices still especially if you factor in how much inflation has raised prices on most everything.
 For me the Henry single shot can still be bought new for under $ 500 if you shop around and they are quality rifles. If you figure in inflation they are not that much more than handis were before they quit making them and a lot of them have really nice figured walnut furniture plus the great warranty that Henry’s have.

Handis are great for modifying as there was once a lot of spare parts available and people have made barrels in about every imaginable caliber but they don’t sell them often. Having interchangeable barrels is a huge advantage.
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« Reply #85 on: Yesterday at 07:13:00 AM »
  I ended up buying a Gforce GFTXP rifle in 400 legend as it seemed interesting and 40 cal. Is about the only gap I have in rifle calibers. The first one I bought was back in May of 2025 and it turned out to have a problem with the action / barrel fitting to where it didn’t shoot well at all.
These guns supposedly have a lifetime warranty but you know how that goes most of the time  ::) ::)  Anyway they did send me a prepared postage label to send it to Texas to be repaired. It took about 4 1/2 months but I ended up getting a new rifle back and I will list the pros and cons in my opinion of the gun in general.

 First impression is it looks pretty good, I would not have bought the gun if it didn’t have a wood stock and forend  and even though my original rifle had prettier figured wood the one they replaced it with has stained hardwood with nearly no grain but has stippling on the stock and forend that is well done and to me is quite attractive much nicer looking than pressed in checkering. The stock also comes with a rubber butt pad, not a recoil pad but about a 1/2” thick pad that is nicely fit and does have some cushion effect. There are sling attachment studs and the front one is what retains the forend. The method of removing the barrel is fairly easy with just a screwdriver required. One side of the pivot pin has a screw slot and when you remove it you find it’s just a screw withe the head being the keeper and the pin pushes out the other side it is 9 mm diameter and is fit well. The was you open the action / drop the barrel is done with a trigger like action release in front of the trigger guard, the replacement rifle I got back this works nice and smooth , the first rifle I had this took considerable force to pull back and I didn’t like it as you need a lot of hand strength to operate it.
 The barrel on mine is 20” and seems well balanced it has a front sight blade but there is no rear sight , instead there is a short picatinney rail that you can mount a scope or they do make different rear receiver sights that mount to a scope rail so if you want iron sights that would be the easiest but being it would sit on top of the rail the front sight would probably not be tall enough ?  The muzzle is threaded but I don’t remember what thread they used it also has a thread protector cap installed. The rear rail is removable and I think a receiver sight could be mounted as the sides of the monoblock are both flat and parallel so there is plenty of meat there if you needed to D&T mounting holes. The extractor seems to work well with the rimless case, it has a slight spring to it  so it can give some to allow it to engage the extraction groove in the case head or if you push a round all the way into the chamber past the extractor it can slip past without binding when you close the barrel. The top tang safety is one of the best I have encountered as I have numerous rifles and shotguns that have them and this one is smooth and positive. There is no play, no rattle, and when you thumb it forward there is no sound it silent and has a positive forward position.
 So those are most of the pros except  This rifle is all steel and wood I have not found a plastic part on it !

 Next are the cons ,  The worst feature on the rifle is the trigger pull, both the first rifle I had and the second replacement gun had the same trigger. It’s not stiff or heavy it just has an uncertain long creeping pull that seems like you have to pull it forever before it finally goes bang. It is the strangest feeling trigger I have felt ever !
Once I cleaned the bore and held it up to natural light  the bore and rifling look excellent not that I have any magic powers of judgment but it looks good . The chamber is another matter, It does chamber the one factory ammo that was available when I got my first rifle Winchester 215 gr. Power point in the silver box. One of the first things I found after firing a few rounds to sight in the scope was that the fired cases would not allow a .401 bullet to be pushed into the case mouth, not even close !  The 1 group I shot off of a lead sled rest at 50 yards did well it was just a 3 shot group but all three were closely touching probably a 1/2” to  5/8” at most.
 So the chamber seems to be a minimum spec that does chamber the factory ammo but for handloaded ammo with a cast bullet it will not chamber them. I am not going to list all of the measurements and extra work this barrel needs to be more user friendly but it will chamber, fire and extract the one factory cartridge that I have tried.
 If you just shoot factory ammo this might be fine for you if you can handle the trigger pull.
 Those are my impressions and my limited experience with this rifle. They are made in youth models also and the calibers that I have actually seen available are, 223 Rem., 243 Win., 9 mm, 350 legend, 400 legend and supposedly 357 mag at some point and I know a lot of people are looking for that caliber.
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« Reply #86 on: Yesterday at 11:37:08 PM »
never saw the fascination some have with them. for the same price you can buy a bolt rifle in more powerful chamberings that will outshoot a handy every day of the week. heck i could put together a 350 legand, 6.5 grendel or 300bo ar cheaper. now talk those sexy #1's and ill get right in line with you. why anyone would pay more than 300 bucks for one makes me scatch my head. some are so brainwashed they think theyre collectables like pre 64 70s. about like buying a super black hawk or 17 glock thinking your going to put it away and retire off your investment
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