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Would you fight and die for your gun rights?

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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #240 on: May 09, 2009, 05:13:53 AM »
Since I am in the coward and not a true american group and I was there from the beginning, not turn and jump when it looked like the popular thing to do, here is my list.

I woud die suppoting my family.  In other words no matter how much I was in pain or otherwise, I would kill myself making sure my family was taken care of.  

I would die defending my family even my dog.  

I would die answering a rescue call where a guy attempts to hurt us while treating his wife for the injuries he inflicted. (been there done that)

I would die stopping any child from getting injured. been there done that

I would die even defending anyone who needed help.  
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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #241 on: May 09, 2009, 06:23:45 AM »
Last but not least....I know in my heart I would stand in front of the President of the United States taking the bullet!
So Bill, I'm asking in the light of cowardice....would you take a bullet protecting the Office of the President of the United States?


Your kidding right. I would step out of the way of the bullet. :o ;D Dale
Actually, I'm asking all you (I would die for my Guns) brave souls if you would take the bullet protecting the Office of the President of the United States of America?
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« Reply #242 on: May 09, 2009, 07:11:28 AM »
Last but not least....I know in my heart I would stand in front of the President of the United States taking the bullet!
So Bill, I'm asking in the light of cowardice....would you take a bullet protecting the Office of the President of the United States?


Your kidding right. I would step out of the way of the bullet. :o ;D Dale
Actually, I'm asking all you (I would die for my Guns) brave souls if you would take the bullet protecting the Office of the President of the United States of America?
And try to be honest.....your friends may forgive you! Believe me ;)
The thing is he is not my prez. You guys will say if you are an American citizen then he is you prez. Well I say untill he shows the birth certifacate need to be prez then he is not. Dale
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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #243 on: May 09, 2009, 07:23:29 AM »
I would not take a bullet for a President who did not uphold the constitution of the United Staes of America. I consider anyone who does not uphold the constitution a traitor and they deserve no quarter.


To all of you here who supported BHO for presiodent, you are the worst kind of traitors, you sold out your freedom for a few measly crumbs.

So sad.
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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #244 on: May 09, 2009, 07:24:19 AM »
I dont think the question referred to this specific president The question was would you take a bullet protecting the office of the president not president Obama.  But you can avoid it well.  To say he is not my prez is about the silliest thing I ever heard. Then who is your prez at this time?  If it was your favorite prez in the whole wide world, would you take a bullet for him or her?  That should close up the loopholes.     
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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #245 on: May 09, 2009, 08:12:41 AM »
Wolftrap, just say you voted for BHO, the rest explains itself.
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What does yours print at same distance?

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One should do a little research before spouting off I would think.  ;D
Mine has printed 1.5" at the same distance, but thanks for asking.  ;)
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Can't say 1.5" @ 500 is an everyday event regardless of conditions, it isn't. BTW, I had sev. witnesses out there that A friend of mine just set-up a 1000yd. range at his rice farm, I need to get out there, I have high hopes on a 200MK load now & a 210Berger load, I think it will group better.  Awh shucks! ;D

But, if a guy has a good grouping rifle or not does not determine his overall World view on things, the Fed that shot Randy Weavers Wife may have had a good grouper as well, HS thinks so. But since you did not address my actual comment, I wil;l run with it.
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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #246 on: May 09, 2009, 08:44:52 AM »
Well I have stayed away from this topic so far because I knew it was just going to turn into what it has and did not see it as a valid question the way it was posted. The chance of them passing a law that outlaws guns is slim though there are groups who are trying to do just that.  The easier option for them would be to regulate guns and ammo to the point that we could not easily acquire them.

Now as to the coming for our guns part of this question. If they come for the guns then that will mean only one thing “Martial Law” has been declared. So if this is the case and you are a gun owner then you are more than likely on a “Red List” and it really does not matter if you give up your guns you and your families are going to a detention camp to be processed.  Once there depending on several factors I am sure you will either give them the information that they want or you will die. Once they have the information they need from you if you are on a “Red List” you will die and any member of your family on a “Red List” will also die. Those lucky enough to be on a “Blue List” might get to live out the rest of their lives in work camps or similar… Ahh you “Lucky Blue list ’ers”…

For those who say “No I will not fight if they come for my guns” you seem to have a serious misunderstanding of how this will work. If you own a gun chances are you are on a “Red List” or if you are former Military or LEO. So really the question should have been posted as follows: Will you give your guns up peacefully only to be gassed later or will you fight to protect yourself and family till the end.

Though I do not think we will see a law that bans our guns all together I do think we will see Martial Law were they come for our guns and I say give them to those that come… Barrel end and a Bang First...

But to answer the posted question… You damn right I will die defending what I feel is my rights… If I was not willing to do so then would I deserve them in the first place? How can I ask and expect the men and women of our armed forces to lay down their lives for my rights if I am not willing to do the same? Seems like a no brainer to me but maybe not.

Guys and Gals the time for us to debate “who, why and when” is over if we do not address the “how” right now our chance to end this assault on our rights without an all out revolution will be lost.

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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #247 on: May 09, 2009, 09:06:17 AM »
Well said Matt.
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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #248 on: May 09, 2009, 09:10:49 AM »
Well said Matt.

Well desperate times call for desperate measures.  Looks like we're there.  Matt and Billy agree!  :P

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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #249 on: May 09, 2009, 11:06:04 AM »
I would not take a bullet for a President who did not uphold the constitution of the United Staes of America. I consider anyone who does not uphold the constitution a traitor and they deserve no quarter.


To all of you here who supported BHO for presiodent, you are the worst kind of traitors, you sold out your freedom for a few measly crumbs.

So sad.

Billy you sure like to assume a lot.  I am here to say I did not vote for him, nor will I next time. You should come off the pedastal you built for yourself and join the race again.  It is quite easy to sit back and pass judgement on others from your very biased position.  However I have not seen any type pf sulution from you other than to call names and blame the rest of the world for the problems we all see.  That being said, I would die for your right for you to be able to spew your names and nonsensical opinions.  Now try saying something that might actually help. 
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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #250 on: May 09, 2009, 11:38:23 AM »
I would not take a bullet for a President who did not uphold the constitution of the United Staes of America. I consider anyone who does not uphold the constitution a traitor and they deserve no quarter.


To all of you here who supported BHO for presiodent, you are the worst kind of traitors, you sold out your freedom for a few measly crumbs.

So sad.

Billy you sure like to assume a lot.  I am here to say I did not vote for him, nor will I next time. You should come off the pedastal you built for yourself and join the race again.  It is quite easy to sit back and pass judgement on others from your very biased position.  However I have not seen any type pf sulution from you other than to call names and blame the rest of the world for the problems we all see.  That being said, I would die for your right for you to be able to spew your names and nonsensical opinions.  Now try saying something that might actually help. 


Buyers remorse? Does the guilty conscience cause and outburst?

I have assumed nothing, but simply made a statment that I consider those who would trade their freedom for a few measly crumbs are the worst form of traitor. I guess if that shoe fits wear it.
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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #251 on: May 09, 2009, 04:35:54 PM »
Well said Matt.

Well desperate times call for desperate measures.  Looks like we're there.  Matt and Billy agree!  :P

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HEH. must be real desperate cause I agree too. POWDERMAN.  :o :o :o :o :o :o
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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #252 on: May 09, 2009, 05:01:13 PM »
Thanks DDZ for your reply to my post. I answered yes to the poll question yesterday before I posted what I did. I will resist when they come for the guns.
However I also want to double check this decision from time to time to be sure it's the right thing to do. Thats why I wrote what I did yesterday.
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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #253 on: May 09, 2009, 05:37:49 PM »
Well said Matt.

Well desperate times call for desperate measures.  Looks like we're there.  Matt and Billy agree!  :P

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HEH. must be real desperate cause I agree too. POWDERMAN.  :o :o :o :o :o :o


Well right is right. Anyone who disagrees with this concept is wrong.  There are things in this world where we can debate and discuss and "interprate" in our own way. The rights listed in the Constitution of the United States of America are not one of those things. And if you are not willing to fight for those rights, you are one of the parasites who is not deserving of those rights. But don't worry if you are one of those, there are plenty of patriots that are willing to shed their blood for you.
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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #254 on: May 09, 2009, 05:56:05 PM »
A very gut wrenching thread, this one.   We all have this image of the almighty ZOG coming for our guns in their black stormtrooper out fits.  Obviously if that happens, it's pretty much curtains for the individual or family  whose home they're surrounding and breaking into.  This scenario is all our nightmares.  We think of the  victims of Ruby Ridge and Waco.


Well think again. I think our government's hold is no so secure and we might think in our worst fears.   Remember that the Waco holocaust victims held them off for several weeks.  Randy WEaver held them off for a long time.

 I remember in 1992 in the Rodney King Riots when the brave heros of the LAPD pulled back to their fortified police stations and let the rest of us shift for ourselves for several days until the National Guard rolled into town.....with NO AMMO for their rifles. 

Several years ago two near do wells with one rifle and a beat up used car terrified the entire atlantic seaboard when they were shooting individual people round the Washington DC area.  Those were the two most unlikely "terrorists" I've ever seen. Two dysfuctional screwed up people but the escaped one of the most intense man hunts in history.  If they'd taken off after the first couple of shootings, they'd never have been found. The governement's psychological profiler said the sniper was a digruntled "white male", but it turned out to be to disgruntled Negros instead. 

Frankly, I think these great geniuses who run our government are not so all knowing and all controlling as we might think.

There's also the spectre of civil breakdown when the "minorities" start to riot and burn down cities.  The importance of having a gun may be in defending yourself against civil disorder rather than against ZOG.   

There is also the possibility of a civil war of sorts and some states seceeding.  I think this country is very unstable.  Sometimes I think a disentegration of central power  control is equally as likely as the clampdown all over the country. 


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« Reply #255 on: May 09, 2009, 05:58:17 PM »
Die for guns....the question goes much deeper than that....yes I would as has been suggested ..if they come for the guns there will be much bigger problems with it.

I took it as the beginning of an all out assualt on my freedoms and that means will i die for my family my wife my sons and daughters and their right to live as a free people.

Yes I would die for that.

I would try to live as long as I could and protect their lives as long as I could. I would not stand in the door and declare that they could not have my guns only to die right then and right there. However as i stated before I would become a very dangerous man to those that would take my or my wife or childrens freedoms.

It was asked if a person would take a bullet for the president....my thoughts YES I WOULD IF THAT WAS THE DUTY I SWORE TO DO!. Yet if I had sworn to protect one that I found out was betraying to oath he took..I would immeadiately resign from the job and I would not protect him.

We as Americans have a duty to stand up to tyranny and stop anyone that attemps to hijack this country even if elected by the people. If one is elected and then becomes corrupted and starts to become a dictator we have the duty and the right to remove him from office by means of empeachment and if by some chance he was to seize power by force we have the duty and right to use force to protect the Nation.

My 2 cents..

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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #256 on: May 09, 2009, 06:07:59 PM »
Wolftrap, just say you voted for BHO, the rest explains itself.
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What does yours print at same distance?

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One should do a little research before spouting off I would think.  ;D
Mine has printed 1.5" at the same distance, but thanks for asking.  ;)
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Can't say 1.5" @ 500 is an everyday event regardless of conditions, it isn't. BTW, I had sev. witnesses out there that A friend of mine just set-up a 1000yd. range at his rice farm, I need to get out there, I have high hopes on a 200MK load now & a 210Berger load, I think it will group better.  Awh shucks! ;D

But, if a guy has a good grouping rifle or not does not determine his overall World view on things, the Fed that shot Randy Weavers Wife may have had a good grouper as well, HS thinks so. But since you did not address my actual comment, I wil;l run with it.
Bought the 300 Ultra two years ago. The load was the previous owner's concoction in which I thought was pretty good? Not much of a Ultra expert and spouting out wasn't my intention. Good that you're getting a 1.5 group@500! So I'll leave it at that.
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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #257 on: May 09, 2009, 06:43:32 PM »
It is good. You asked, which is the only reason I brought it up, & the question was what would mine do & I want to make it clear what the gun can do & what I can do vary at times, but that's one of my Sendero's. My 25-06AI is very good as well. And a 308VS I recently bought is really surprising me. But the rest of your post tells me why you avoided the subject the first time & started talking about Sendero's, which has NOTHING to do with this thread. Reading the rest of your post makes me wonder why you would want to talk guns period. Your reasoning
said it all, like I said the first time.

Back to the subject, we just disagree here & for now I will leave it at that.

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« Reply #258 on: May 09, 2009, 06:55:01 PM »
LGM270 makes a good point  
 Remember that the Waco holocaust victims held them off for several weeks.  Randy WEaver held them off for a long time.

Nobody will ever win at anything they ever do with the attidue "we just can't win".  Our numbers are impressive, our spirit is good, and we could kick some serious butt.  Over 2 million people a year fight back at criminals, many of them armed....so there's 2 million for sure with the sand to stand up and fight knowing they could die while trying.  At Waco....some feds got shot to ya know.  Same at Ruby Ridge, a fed dead.   So if 2 million people took out just one each....I'm tellin ya that's more dead house raiders than in wars.  How many people you think they are going to have??  And yes...if this ever happened a lot of us will be killed, but a lot will survive too.  

At any rate,  the attitude that we don't stand a chance no matter what, is not the right way to think.  I personally think in certain places in this country we'd be kicking butt big time.  Other places will let themselves be taken away without a fight.  Nobody wants any of this to happen of course,  but if it does, have an attitude of winning, not losing.

Don't know how stepping in front of a bullet for a president had anything to do with this thread...but anyone gets in the way of my liberty, is an enemy of the state...no matter what rank, no matter what status.... if there ever is a time when they come for us, any president, or member of congress, or anyone at any level that lets this happen, is fair game for snipping or hanging whichever comes first.  If that sounds to radical to some, too bad....troops do not come to your house to kill you without those people being the main cause,  better figure out who all the ememies are.  More than likely those in power will have a lot of protection,  and for good reason!



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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #259 on: May 09, 2009, 07:21:03 PM »
LGM270 makes a good point  
 Remember that the Waco holocaust victims held them off for several weeks.  Randy WEaver held them off for a long time.

 

Don't know how stepping in front of a bullet for a president had anything to do with this thread...but anyone gets in the way of my liberty, is an enemy of the state...no matter what rank, no matter what status.... if there ever is a time when they come for us, any president, or member of congress, or anyone at any level that lets this happen, is fair game for snipping or hanging whichever comes first.  If that sounds to radical to some, too bad....troops do not come to your house to kill you without those people being the main cause,  better figure out who all the ememies are.  More than likely those in power will have a lot of protection,  and for good reason!



Before they set the timer at Oklahoma....168 Men, Women and Children did not but have one second of awareness before they were murdered by redneck psycho's claiming payback for Waco?
Jim, by replying to this inane post...... you've just committed a huge crime!
Threatening the President of the United States by snipping or hanging?
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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #260 on: May 09, 2009, 08:57:44 PM »
May I be so bold as to suggest that there will not be a revolution over gun rights so no one will have to respond to the survey, literally? Either for or against. Sociologists (undoubtedly from liberal colleges ;)) have summarized the common precursors to modern political revolutions into the list below.  Revolutions are largely about economics, not gun rights. For gun rights to be the motivating factor for a revolution, either pro or anti, there has to be some major economic factors and I don’t see them. I think we’re pretty close to “gun rights equilibrium” so I don’t see gun laws changing drastically.
I also thought the list might be of service to those promoting revolution..
1. Revolutions happen when a long trend of rising expectations and living standards drops off suddenly. When people who'd always expected to do better are abruptly doing worse, their mood turns ugly, and you can expect somebody's head will roll.
2. Broken trust between the upper and lower classes. When the upper classes no longer see their fate as being tied to that of those below them, forfeit their greater responsibility for the common good, and start preying on the underclasses instead, the best you're going to get is a populist uprising. And the worst is a full-on class war prominently featuring guillotines in the town square.
3. A professional and intellectual class that breaks ranks with the upper classes (with whom they usually have a strong alliance), and sides with the lower classes instead. These disaffected bourgeoisie provide the leadership and management skills that can catalyze a small local uprising into a serious national rebellion.
4. Incompetent government that either fails to recognize the people's declining fortunes, or recognizes them but doesn't come up with plausible solutions, or comes up with good solutions but proves to be inept in implementing reform.
5. A new era requiring major structural (economic, technological, political, environmental, and/or cultural) changes that are being ignored or even actively resisted by the ruling classes because they won't let the status quo change. As JFK put it: "Those who make peaceful evolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable."
6. Fiscal irresponsibility, which is usually what causes the triggering decline in expectations. Almost always, these reversals are brought about by inept or corrupt governments that mismanage the national economy to the point of indebtedness, bankruptcy, and collapse.
7. Capricious use of force, both domestically and abroad. Unfettered police misbehavior at home and deployment of forces to stupid wars far yonder both undermine public confidence in the government's basic commitment to the rule of law, and eventually drives citizens to withdraw their consent to be governed and rebel.

Note: some of these “conditions for revolution” do sound familiar

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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #261 on: May 10, 2009, 12:14:13 AM »
  Crusty;
       I respectfully disagree although I see no immediate threat of a revolution, I can see the seeds of such in the statements you made.
  Let's look at them one-by-one:

 1) Has not a long and anticipated rise in living standards not now levelled off or dropped ? Each generation has hoped that their children would "do better" than they..polls show that people don't believe this will carry on. Common sense dictates that if we trade on a "global market", each nation involved must eventually be dealing from a fairly equal position  today's poor nations get richer, the richer ones get poorer, a levelling off, so to speak.
  2) Don't we already have great disagreement between the NEW "upper classes" such as high placed political hacks and their minions in Hollywood and the major media against the working people like "Joe the Plumber".. I don't know how much further apart they could be ! Are not now the upper (political) class breaking the trust (keep most of what your sweat earns) with the working class and attempting to take more of their hard earned money and giving it to those who don't even try ? Isn't it a breaking of trust when the ruling class continually tries to take away Constitutionaly promised freedoms ?
 3) A matter of semantics..The professional (political) and intellectual (educators)  are already hammering on the manufacturers, bankers and small businessmen..ask Joe.. ;)
 4) No need to comment, the line fits the present administration perfectly!
 5) Here you have a slightly different but no less volatile situation, where the "ruling classes" want to force through changes that the majority of the creating, earning class does not want. The ruling class has joined with the parasitic and perverted classes, trying to force through by sheer numbers, actions against guaranteed Constitutional rights. If that's not a tinderbox; i don't know one !  :P :o
 6) Fiscal irresponsibility..like putting our children and grandchildren into debt for all their lives and putting our fair nation into debt with our enemies ? Inept or corrupt governments..where the prez had trouble finding enough honest taxpayers among his associates to fill his cabinet posts, ...so he accepted some tax cheats anyway.
 7) "Capricious use of force"..such as at Waco and Ruby Ridge ? How soon before we see the "brownshirts" coming after someone's guns? CVapriciouys use of force..like taking away the hard earned wages of 3,000,000 hard working guys like joe the plumber..then giving it to those who will not even work.
..Could be just the straw that broke the camel's back.
   
  I see things differently..revolutions can come about when granted rights are either ignored or undermined by the "ruling class". Read the reasons for the Magna Charta, Wallace's rebellion, the Cromwellian rebellion and our own revolution..started by a repressive govt..such as we now have..

   BTW: Just because some intellectuals, especially liberal intellectuals put together a list, doesn't mean that list is correct and surely doesn't mean it is unbiased. from experience, I have found that liberals tend to view people as doing things purely on a self-interest basis.
  That may be the way they look at things, but I submit that there are a great many people who go beyond self-interest. Such may be hard for a liberal mind to grasp, being that generally they don't believe in a power higher or greater than man or government..but it is true
  Why else would young men and women volunteer to fight a dangerous/evil enemy face to face? Which of course goes to show why there are very few political liberals among them. Why does a policeman risk his life to save a child or woman not his own ? Why would a teenaged girl at Columbine high school continue to praise the name of Jesus when she knew she would die for it?
  You see, "intellectuals" making lists, don't know everything and liberal intellectuals are likely the most uninformed.
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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #262 on: May 10, 2009, 01:19:12 AM »
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Voting for President Obama was the most gratifying event in my 38 years in the Voting Booth. I will support his heart wrenching effort to put back together a Nation robbed of its resource's and wealth by the outgoing Administration. What an amazing man to stand in the middle of power and political might, sticking it to the Houses with a recovery plan like no other!
To those who supported then President Bush should look in the mirror and recognize treason looking back laughing it up!
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If you actually believe all that you are not only uninformed you are just down right STUPID.


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« Reply #263 on: May 10, 2009, 01:52:05 AM »


If you actually believe all that you are not only uninformed you are just down right STUPID.

I totally agree




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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #264 on: May 10, 2009, 02:06:16 AM »


If you actually believe all that you are not only uninformed you are just down right STUPID.

I totally agree




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I concur.   Its whats wrong with this country, when a bunch of uninformed people vote in a guy like Obama. (the supposed giver of everything) I sometimes wonder if people should have to pass a test before they vote, because I figure a good many people don't have a clue what they are doing. 
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« Reply #265 on: May 10, 2009, 02:41:00 AM »
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Voting for President Obama was the most gratifying event in my 38 years in the Voting Booth. I will support his heart wrenching effort to put back together a Nation robbed of its resource's and wealth by the outgoing Administration. What an amazing man to stand in the middle of power and political might, sticking it to the Houses with a recovery plan like no other!
To those who supported then President Bush should look in the mirror and recognize treason looking back laughing it up!
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If you actually believe all that you are not only uninformed you are just down right STUPID.


Bill stupid is not anywheres near a strong enough word for this. As I said before the traitors that have sold out the constitution for a few measly crumbs are the lowest forms.
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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #266 on: May 10, 2009, 03:02:38 AM »
You know I kind of hate to say this as I am sure it will draw fire again but bubba you seem bent on starting things on here.

First I beleave it was with DEE ( not sure because I didn't go all the way back to check ),  then me and now it seems to be billys turn.

You also make a couple of remarks that counterdict yourself.

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I would die stopping any child from getting injured. been there done that

If that were true than how are you able to post?
Remember, you died for that child!

I think we know what you meant to say.
Just a little mistake.

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I dont think the question referred to this specific president The question was would you take a bullet protecting the office of the president not president Obama

That is the same as when I replied that the topic wasn't what you would or would not do before they come for your guns but WOULD YOU FIGHT AND DIE FOR YOUR GUN RIGHTS.

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But you can avoid it well.

You have used that one on all that have disagreed with you.

Don't really want to start it back up with you but think before you type.


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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #267 on: May 10, 2009, 03:06:02 AM »
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Voting for President Obama was the most gratifying event in my 38 years in the Voting Booth. I will support his heart wrenching effort to put back together a Nation robbed of its resource's and wealth by the outgoing Administration. What an amazing man to stand in the middle of power and political might, sticking it to the Houses with a recovery plan like no other!
To those who supported then President Bush should look in the mirror and recognize treason looking back laughing it up!
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If you actually believe all that you are not only uninformed you are just down right STUPID.


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wolftrap. Bill beat me to it, that was about the most ignorant thing I've ever seen in print. If voting for an America hating, whitey hating, pro death, pro gay, black muslim is the high point of your life, you need to open your eyes and get a life. POWDERMAN.  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: Would you fight and die for your gun rights?
« Reply #269 on: May 10, 2009, 03:31:21 AM »
See LongTom it is the petty little things like that which show your true character. I said I would die saving the life if a child. I simply meant yeah I have risked life and limb to rescue a  7 year old child who had fallen off a 30 foot  ledge and was in the river near a power dam after she bounced off a couple rocks on the way down. I went over the ledge to go get her and had her secured and safe before any other rescue people arrived. If this is the best you have to prove your point it is sad.  Name calling and making oneself look better is not a way to win a debate.  It is simply a diversionary (that means you are trying to get people to look the other way)  tactic to try to regroup and get a better way to make your point. I understand that and I am pretty sure you do.  But you keep rolling with the popular consensus so you feel better about yourself.  I am glad you get that little bit of glee every day to brighten your life a bit.  Besides when I asnwered the questions that were posted, you accused me of hijacking the thread.  Which way would you like it?  You my fellow poster have made this into personal attacks on me and tearing apart all I say. A good example is your last post which by the way has nothing to do with the thread. There I responded directly to your remarks so you can again say I am hijacking the thread.  

I also find it humorous when people complain because others exercise their right to vote which is a god given right as well as the right to keep and bear arms is. Because they do not vote with you, they need to take a test to be able to vote so only those who pass the test which means they agree with you get to vote and if they dont they are traitors.  Funny how one right is so much more important than the next. I agree that voters who voted for Obama were uninformed, but it was their right to do so.  So again the only way to respond to them is to call then names? Seems pretty hypocriotical to me to say people need to defend their rights, then complain when they dont exercise them the way you want.                            
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