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Tikka T3 lite stainless or stevens 200???
« on: February 10, 2006, 07:41:31 AM »
ok, the stevens around here is like 330, the tikka t3 lite stainless is like 550.  I told the wife with our tax refund, I am getting a rifle, she wants new light fixtures.  What the hell is wrong with women?? :shock:

I am a beginner hunter, not a benchrest shooter or accuracy freak gunsmith type, so both will fit my needs.  I just want to maximize my $$ spent.

Allot of people are saying a stevens will need a trigger job or a drop in replacement trigger half the time.  drop ins cost like 90, or a trigger job like 75.

the tikka t3 lite comes with rings, the stevens doesnt.

so stevens with a bushnell elite 3200( just an example) and trigger job and rings

330+40 for rings+200 for scope+85 for trigger work is $655

Tikka with no work needed, rings included is 550, plus 200 for the bushnell amounts to like $750.


I would lean towards the extra $100 and get what I have read to be a vastly superior rifle, in stainless, the Tikka.  I know not every stevens comes with a smelly trigger, but you have to factor that in to your $$ when purchasing it I would think.  thoughts? are there other aspects besides the price that would lean people more towards one vs the other?  Basically I can get either one, but I dont want to drop an extra $200 on the tikka, however the #'s dont bear out the "GREAT VALUE" thing if it needs $$ for tweaking after purchase

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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2006, 07:56:43 AM »
The Stevens is a fine rifle, a great value and it sounds as if it will fit your needs nicely.  Now, having said that, I'll take a Tikka every time.  It is also is a fantastic value when you consider the quality that  you're getting for that $550.  Essentially, you're getting a Sako.

It's kind of like comparing a Chevette to a Corvette.  They'll both get you there, but...
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2006, 08:07:12 AM »
Yeah, I knew the apples and oranges thing would come into play here,  I just kept getting a little frustrated when I would ask and people would say "dude, get a stevens, for 330, then once you drop 150 in crap into it, you have a great rifle."  I have heard it is great stock, but that ALLOT of people have to do mods to get good function.

I dont need the TITS trigger, I havent even shot centerfire since I was in scouts, but when people describe the trigger as "garbage"  that tells me more then likely  I will need to drop some $ into it.

I learned my lesson when I did aquariums that it is better to eat the extra $$ and get the right thing the first time instead of trying to buy low to "get in"

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tikka or stevens
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2006, 08:26:39 AM »
Tikka all the time every time.

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Tikka T3 lite stainless or stevens 200???
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2006, 08:39:23 AM »
For your interest and needs, the Stevens would do the trick. You can personally adjust the trigger yourself easily, and can pick up rings.
Granted the Tikka is an over all nicer quality rifle, but for a inexpensive shooter that, as a plus,  you can even very easily build off the action in the future, the Stevens is a good choice. Just shop around, you can find them for $250 usually with a bit of patience a little less  8)
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2006, 09:01:58 AM »
get the tikka for sure, otherwise you will always regret not getting it, can't think of another rifle you would be better off with than the t3.A lot of gun for $550!

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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2006, 09:03:52 AM »
Yeah, Myarmour, I am tending towards your opinion.  Also, the $200 I will save will give me some more wiggle room with the wife!!! :evil:

also it is half the $ of a guided hunt!    I wish I had the kind of $$ where I didnt worry about the $$.

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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2006, 09:40:23 AM »
Just shop around, you'll find it alot cheaper than $330. The Stevens is basically an old Savage 110 action. Leaves a man a lot of room to play with in the future if he ever decideds to switch calibers, and or build a semi-custom job off it.  Check out the Savageshooters forum and you will see what I mean.
Don't get me wrong, the Tikkas are sweet, but if you are just wanting a good shooter and nothing fancy, A "working rifle"  then the Stevens/Savage is a great buy.
What caliber where you looking to get anyway?

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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2006, 10:04:42 AM »
This even isn't a close call.

Tikka.

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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2006, 01:21:37 PM »
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Good shot placement + well constructed bullet = DEAD
 
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2006, 01:32:06 PM »
I have 2 Stevens, 7-08 and 25-06. Trigger is easy to adjust. Cannot find a better hunting rifle for the money. Will shoot MOA...........and, made in USA.........

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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2006, 02:00:32 PM »
looking at the 30-06.  going to do some public land free lance pig hunting this spring (hopefully)

Problem with the tikka is just the cost.  If I had my druthers, I would get it.  but after rifle, optics, sling, cleaning gear, case, gun vise  etcetcetc  it is going to be like 900 bucks.  dont forget I am in Kalifornia, the land of 10 day waits and a 35 dollar gun tax err I mean DROS fee to add in.   :x

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go to walmart
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2006, 02:06:17 PM »
you can get it for around $269.00


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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2006, 02:51:43 PM »
Some of your numbers are off. A Bushnell 3200 can be had for $169.99, shipping free of charge. You should be able to find a Stevens 200 for $300, maybe less. A trigger job will run abour $40-$45. If the cost difference doesn't matter, take the Tikka. Both rifles are good shooters, but Tikka has better fit and finish.

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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2006, 03:06:49 PM »
that seems to be true.  the cost difference, meaning spending more on a tikka, can be ignored, but not free of charge!!!!  I would rather squirrell away that extra 200$ for something else I want I think!

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« Reply #15 on: February 10, 2006, 03:47:46 PM »
Quote from: lilabner
Some of your numbers are off. A Bushnell 3200 can be had for $169.99, shipping free of charge. You should be able to find a Stevens 200 for $300, maybe less. A trigger job will run abour $40-$45. If the cost difference doesn't matter, take the Tikka. Both rifles are good shooters, but Tikka has better fit and finish.


AND the TIkka does NOT require a trigger job, so you will save money there.  The Tikka and Sako triggers are the finest factory triggers - almost like jewel triggers.

Zachary

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« Reply #16 on: February 10, 2006, 04:14:54 PM »
and don't forget Tikka's integrated base and the rings are included........it needs nothing more than a scope and ammo  :grin:

honestly,I don't see me buying anything else BUT Tikkas,if I can't afford one,I'll wait till I can

cheap is not always a bargain,either...........I guess it depends on how well your rifle needs to shoot and how good the fit and finish needs to be
Good shot placement + well constructed bullet = DEAD
 
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yeah
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2006, 09:02:49 AM »
This is tough. I SHOULDNT spend the extra like 400 on the tikka.  until I actually hunt more ( or any I should say)  I am going to get the stevens.  the  Tikka is obviously nicer fit and finish, a better stock etc etc, but the stevens will do 95% what tikka can, and wont get me beanbag stepped on by the wife!:lol:
I want to thank you all for your thoughts and help.  reading on this site has helped me learn an awful lot already before I even have gone to the range, and helped me know what to look for when I go to the gunshop!

thanks,
Carson

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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2006, 11:11:53 AM »
Carsonsig -

You mean you don't want to become a member of the Tikka cult. There are a lot of followers on these pages.

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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2006, 04:49:34 AM »
and a GREAT cult it is....ALL HAIL TIKKA :-D
Good shot placement + well constructed bullet = DEAD
 
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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2006, 10:54:36 AM »
Tikka, Tikka, Tikka.  
We're not worthy. We're not worthy.
Tikka, Tikka, Tikka.
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Nobody should feel slighted by their gun choice!
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2006, 03:47:49 PM »
First the gun doesn't make the hunter, its just a way to do what we like!  Most of the bigger game I have shot came with older Remingtons, Savage and a sporterized 303 British.  It was my younger legs and wind that made most of the difference.  We are all doing a lot of free advertising for these companies, and bullet manufactuers.  

There is an old saying "Fear the person who has one gun and knows how to use it!"

If the best value gun on the rack shoots great and the hunter has spent time practicing and finding out what bullets and ammunition it likes who am I to say that isn't right for him, even if it isn't right for me?  

If you are on a board like this and ask people there opinions, or read them do we have the right to tell them what they are comfortable with is wrong?

My sport of hunting is about hunting and the exchange of ideas not keeping up with the Jones , my gun costs more than yours and such.

If a young hunter came to me and said he didn't have a lot of money to spend on a firearm because of his family and such I would think he was making some pretty good decisions, mature and responsible.

Now for the Tikka Club.  I have three of them and they are extremely accurate rifles.  I didn't know they existed 4 years ago.  Let's not think they are the only choice by any means but they are outstanding firearms for the money!

Give me any hunter especially a young one who wants balance to his or her life and has already factored in his wife or husbands involvement and I see someone who will enjoy the sport for a long time and probably be still married which is a very good thing!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If that Stevens fits the bill buy it!  If a Tikka T3 fulfills a dream get it and enjoy it!  It's the sport not the rifle, that deer will never know what you used!!!    Buckfever

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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2006, 05:33:26 PM »
my ending thoughts on this are that if I dont get the opportunities to hunt as much as I want ,(which has been  the unfortunate case lately) the wife wont have the "well you had to buy that $600 dollar european rifle and you have only gone like once......" to beat me over the head with.  My lovely bride isnt a ballbreaker, but we all know they never pass up a slow pitch like that!!!   :-D


I HOPE I get to hunt often enough that a budget minded rifle isnt "good" enough anymore, until then I am going to get the stevens!!

 thanks guys,Carson

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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2006, 04:15:09 AM »
Get the savage  it will shoot good and the main reason , SUPPORT OUR GUN MAKERS, let the Finnish support their own company, Like winchester some day they will all go broke little by little. But if you want go ahead and buy the oversaes junk :D

   It's like the old saying use it or loose it. Adoller sent over seas is a dollar overseas

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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2006, 10:30:11 AM »
As has already been said, the rifle doesn't make the hunter. Practice and skills do. Get the Stevens in a good all-around caliber and get good quality rings and a scope for it. The Elite 3200 you mentioned (assuming a 3-9x or so) or a Sightron SII would be a great match for the rifle. When you mount the scope, make sure that it's mounted in the right place for you. Do this by closing your eyes and them mounting your gun to shooting position. As soon as you open your eyes, you should have a full and clear view through the scope. If it's not, change it so that you do. If you're not looking through the center of the scope, change the height of the mounts until you are. If you don't have a full view through the scope (big black ring around a tiny circle of light), change how far forward or back it's mounted in the rings until you do. Never change your shooting position just to be able to see through the scope! Make it fit you, not change you to fit it. As for the trigger, just carefully follow the directions and adjust the trigger on the Stevens to suit you. Careful adjustment will get you a good (but not necessarily great) trigger pull.

Then, and most importantly, spend a big chunk of that money you saved over buying the Tikka on ammo so that you can practice with your new gun. I don't just mean sitting at a bench at the range. I mean shooting in the positions you're likely to be using when you're out hunting. Amazingly, I never seem to have a solid bench and my benchrest equipment around when I have to take a hunting shot, so the only bench shooting my hunting guns get is sight-in and load testing. :)

The first month or so that you practice doesn't even have to be with live ammo. Since you are far out of practice with shooting and you are getting a new gun, you should probably dry fire practice as often as is convenient with the new gun. One of the most important aspects will be getting used to the trigger, no matter if it's a factory trigger or a top-of-the-line match trigger. For the first week after I get a new gun or change a trigger on one, I practice dry firing with my eyes closed or in a dark room (so no temptation to concentrating on sighting) just to learn the trigger. The only thing on your mind should be feeling that trigger. I usually do three sessions a day (1st = 20 pulls, 2nd and 3rd = 10 pulls each). Once you're comfortable enough with "dark" dry fire practice, move on to sighting with dry fire practice. By this, I mean holding the gun down in front of you, looking at something specific for a target, then raising your gun into position, mounting it, holding steady sighted on the target for a few seconds until you can get a clean and smooth trigger break (no jerking!), then repeat. Once you're entirely comfortable with this (only you can decide when that is), you're ready for practicing with live ammo at targets.

As I said earlier, don't just sit at the bench and "practice" shooting. You need to practice from shooting positions. I don't know what terrain you'll be hunting, but I usually try to practice from sitting, prone (lying down head toward the target), leaning against a pole (like a tree while hunting), and totally offhand.  This will also let you get accustomed to the recoil of the rifle in shooting positions, which is usually much less unpleasant in shooting positions (except for prone, maybe) than it is in benchrest position. Practicing this way also lets me know how accurate you really are, and that lets you know which shots you can realistically make from shooting positions.

In case I haven't mentioned it yet, the key here is practice. If I were taking a new hunter out hunting with me, I'd rather see him with a Stevens in his hand that he was obviously familiar with and very accustomed to shooting than a nice Tikka that had strained his budget so he couldn't afford much ammo for practicing.

Sorry for the long-winded response here, but I love to see new hunters get started the right way so that they enjoy hunting and shooting for the rest of their lives and pass on that joy to others. :)

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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2006, 02:48:37 PM »
I have a couple of custom rifles I purchased that were pretty spendy and thats ok because I saved for it. I also bought a stevens 200 out the door at Gander Mountain for $268.00...best $268.00 I spent. Tikka is a fine rifle of great quality no doubt. I don't know, I guess after seeing whats happen to Winchester, I think I will try and give more of my money to US companies.

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« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2006, 05:35:53 AM »
Hate to break the news---but Winchester isn't a US company anymore-------they are a foreign company with a US plant----much like Nissan and Toyota.

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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2006, 03:27:04 PM »
got my sexy grey beast stevens 200 today at great outdoors in sacramento for $299.  got some Leupold bases and rings, then went to optic zone and got a Burris Fullfield II  3-9x40 with free Burris Binoculars.:-D   that is SWEEEET.  I love it when a deal comes together.  Those binoculars really made my day, sure they arent $2000 swarovskis....  but for me, they will do great.

Paid more for the bases and rings then I might have on the web, but I like supporting local guys to some extent.  and since I figure there cant be too much markup on a $300 dollar gun, I went with them.  the salesman was very nice also.

Appreciate everybodies help on this.  have a good valentines day!

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« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2006, 12:31:14 AM »
Get that puppy to the range and let us know how it shoots!!!
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« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2006, 02:12:44 AM »
What cal. did ya choose.

If you decide to paint stock, PEPAW will show you what it is suposed to look like , I THINK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Goood luck and happy shootin, DM