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Offline tom barthel

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« on: January 01, 2006, 04:22:00 AM »
Does this rifle come in .223?  If so, what is the rate of twist.  I have a single shot .223 with a twist rate of 1 in 12.  I like it very much except for it's flaws.  I'm looking fore something with a faster rate of twist.  I've NEVER experienced ANY problem with a bolt gun.

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« Reply #1 on: January 01, 2006, 04:32:10 AM »
You sound as though you're making the jump from a Handi also.  I still have one 223 Handi,,just sold another barrel and it shot well.
But I too have ordered a bolt gun recently.....Savage 10FP 223. have done a lot of reading and for the $ they seem to be a great shooter.

Check out the Savage/Stevens web site, I don't believe the gun you're interested in comes in a 223. Not listed on the new site anyway.

Hope that helps.

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« Reply #2 on: January 01, 2006, 05:35:56 AM »
If that twist doesn't suit you might take a look at Howa. :D
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« Reply #3 on: January 01, 2006, 07:46:53 AM »
the gun store in edmonton has one in 223,369$$
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« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2006, 12:39:50 PM »
Yep it comes in .223 alright. 1in9 twist is the stated rate.

http://www.savagearms.com/st_200short.htm

Wal-mart can special order these for $268.xx if ya ask them, it's not in their book tho.
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« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2006, 03:40:27 PM »
Yes they do come in .223 ..1in9 twist. I have one and she is a good shooter to. .3 to .5 inch groups.

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« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2006, 04:19:20 PM »
Thanks to all.  Bass Pro had some for $200.00.  I don't know if it was only what was in stock or, the regular price.  If it's still available for even close to that price, I'll probably get one.  I do enjoy my little handi-rifles but, I dont need a job as a gunsmith.  Any company can make a lemon but, I want a rifle I can depend on.  I have NEVER had ANY bolt gun fail to function reliably.  I say again, I LIKE MY LITTLE HANDI-RIFLES but.

Thanks and God bless.

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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2006, 03:03:50 AM »
I agree on the Handi jetison.... For 20 years I have had a Vanguard (Howa). It has performed flawlessly! These rifles (unfortunately no longer fancy walnut) can be found at $350 - 400, at Walmart.. Sure they cost about twice a Handi, but they are 10 times the rifle... No ejector, barrel latch, open on fire, flitz this and flitz that bs, O rings, UPS bills back and forth to factory to support sub par labor and quality control. You get what you pay for!! I got too many kids to raise, and deer to hunt, to screw arount even with a cheap $200 gun. I must of had a brain cramp!!
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« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2006, 06:08:39 AM »
tscott,
You post sounds just like my jump from Rossi to Stevens. I had the Rossi in .243 and never got it to shoot anything close to acceptable. Had all of the problems that you mentioned from the Handi. First time out with the Stevens 200, sub 1" groups. I, too, own a Howa in 6.5X55, and while I haven't gotten extreme accuracy, it is a very well made gun that shoots pretty well and I I'm sure when I do some more load development with it, it will start to really shine.

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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2006, 07:38:55 AM »
Sorry about giving some wrong info on the earlier post......I even went back and edited the correct info because for whatever reason I could not see the "short action" Stevens rifle,,,only long action.  I knew that I had read posts about 223 in that model.
Thanks to Like2hunt for including the Stevens thread.
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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2006, 09:49:44 AM »
I sold all of my handi's and bought nothing but savage and stevens. Will not look back at all. I owned a lot of handi's.


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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2006, 03:43:16 PM »
I'm gonna sell my handi's also.....I'm not gonna bash 'em,but they aren't for me...LOVE the way they feel and handle,but as was mentioned,i ain't a gunsmith and if i ever hear the word "flitz" again,it'll be too soon...also hate the way MINE shoots (kinda like a shotgun,but not as dense of a pattern)
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2006, 04:44:15 PM »
SSShhhhhh....................don't tell the guys up above us but I've been thinning the Handis lately myself. I've been able to replace with a Savage 12FV 22-250, a special run with a fluted blued bull barrel, (haven't even shot it yet) and an older barely used savage 840 30-30 bolt gun (soon to be arriving)  :mrgreen:. I'll be getting one of the Stevens 200's soon, just haven't made up my mind which one yet  :wink:. I also have a 26" barreled 870 Rem on layaway and I traded around some and wound up with a Rem. 1100LW 20 gauge too. I still have a couple Handis - 445 SuperMag and a .357 - may even add a few of the fluted varmint barrels later too, but I am no longer a Handi exclusive shooter...........and I'm quite happy about it too.
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2006, 07:07:38 PM »
Pic of my stevens in 25-06
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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2006, 07:10:31 PM »
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« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2006, 09:51:04 PM »
Lik2hunt,you GOT to handle a Tikka before ya replace everything with a savage,I like savages,too......but you just HAFTA hold a Tikka (pay special attention to the bolt and trigger,and if ya buy it pay special attention to the tiny group on the paper)....and guess what??? NO FLITZING :-D  :-D  :-D
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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2006, 03:41:39 AM »
Hi All,

    What puzzles me is that it took you all so long to figure out that a normal bolt action is better than a Handi rifle  :eek:  and some of you had quite a few of these Handi rifles  :oops: if I end up wiht a lemon I certainly don't go trying more and more of the same.

   I tried one cheap break action single shot rifle which is the Baikal which lickily seems to shoot well. Only had to re-model to wood to please me more  :-)
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« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2006, 03:59:10 AM »
Brithunter I just liked the feel of the little handi-rifle.  I kept thinking, I must be doing something wrong.  I have three calibers that have never given me headaches.  The other two have had stuck cases.  This doesn't happen often but one time is one to many.  I also had a transfer device failure that needed a factory fix.  I really like these rifles when they work.  I TRUST a bolt rifle more.  I just wanted to see if I could make a cheap rifle shoot.  I'll be keeping my SS rifles but hunt with a bolt or lever gun.  Live and learn.  Some of us learn by reading, some by following.  Some of us have to pee on the electric fence ourselves to learn.

Take care and God bless.

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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2006, 05:57:51 AM »
Tom,I'm definately an electric fence guy....I too LOVE the way the handi's handle and feel,but when i look through a big deer in my scope I don't wanna be thinkin "I wonder if this rifle is gonna work correctly today and hit where I aim?"

You can't shoot well when you don't have CONFIDENCE

(still not gonna say handi's are bad rifles,but they need more TLC to shoot than any other rifle i've ever seen)

I've never had to do anything to make a bolt gun shoot except load and squeeze   :-D  :-D
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« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2006, 10:31:14 AM »
I sold mine, but I won't bash them either.  They have their purpose.  BUT, if I ever get another singleshot, it will be a Sharps or a replica :grin: .

I wouldn't mind getting into BPCR when I retire, but I have to see if I have enough time for the ones I have now.
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« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2006, 10:55:52 AM »
Handi,
It's funny, but a lot of guys seem to be jumping away from handis lately. My BC is the one and only one that I can truly rely on to be on the money every time.
I have a Weatherby on order right now. The new Deluxe Vanguard model with the semi-fancy walnut and rosewood foregrip cap. I got a great deal on it at $399 NIB from a dealer in WA. They still have that 1 1/2" guarranty with factory ammo and this one looks exactly like their Mark V deluxe, or one of the older VGL Vanguards.
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« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2006, 12:15:19 PM »
I just checked walmart and the price for a new .223 stevens 200 is $268.94.  That's in Muskogee, OK.  Looks like I will be getting one.  I checked Bass Pro and they will meet walmart's price but not beat it.  A round trip to Bass Pro would cost me $7.00 to $8.00.  Looks like walmart wins.  I still wish the Handi-rifle was better made.  I like the feel of it,BUT!!!!!

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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2006, 12:28:24 PM »
If WalMart has it in stock you're OK but many have had some issues when ordering a gun from them.  Just keep that in mind.  WalMart abandoned CA after underselling everyone esle.  Just glad they didn't put any shops out of business before they did, or else we'd have nothing here.

I still shop there, but I wouldn't buy another gun from them if they did open it up again.  I just WISH we had a BassPro shop here, I'd sure support them if they matched the price.

BB
I first bought my Handi cause the price was right.  My son's each had one and one was a shooter, the other was not so I figured I'd try.  From there I kept buying barrels trying to find one I really liked but it never happend.  I never got used to how they carried, just never felt right to me, except, like you say, my BC.  Even that had to go back for another barrel to be right.  But NEF DID make it right.  they do have good CS.
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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2006, 12:49:46 PM »
I love my Handis. But I am not a Handi exclusive shooter. Why be?
I love my bolt actions, and always will. Though once you do get a Handi to shoot, man they teach you a lot about control. Any little movement throws off a shot. But thats a good thing, and only improves ones marksmanship.
It takes all kinds. And the old saying holds true.."Use the right tool for the job". Most my shooting is target, Handis weren't made to be target rifles. But they can make great Varmint and Hunting rifles.
Shoot what you like, shoot what you can afford, and shoot what fits you.
To each his own.
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« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2006, 01:16:14 PM »
Aaron,WELL SAID,man,well said    :toast:
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« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2006, 02:31:10 PM »
Hmmm....we've sparked quite the topic here haven't we? I have one more thing to add, I got into the Handis because of price also, but all I spent on them would have gotten me several decent bolt guns......or lever guns.....maybe not brand new but good decent used guns, and there are a lot of 'em to be had out there.
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« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2006, 02:32:27 PM »
The Savage 200 or even the new Mossberg are  clear alternatives to Handis. I seriously considered the Savage 200, before finding a deal on the Vanguard. I always liked the feel of the Handi, a short rifle even with the same length barrel as a bolt gun. They handled well, and the fact that they are single shot never became a problem. For me the lack of consistancy is the only drawback. I'd no sooner get a load to shoot good, then the same load from the same batch wouldn't even group. Like I said the one exception has been my BC. I may yet look at a Savage 200 in .223 or .243.
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« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2006, 02:35:45 PM »
Oh yea, love the Tikkas too. I have a freind who has one of the old M695's in 25-06. Shoots 1/2" groups at 200 yards! :eek: He got quite a good deal at a gun show, was used but.............he was able to walk out with it for $400. :shock:
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« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2006, 04:08:22 PM »
Lik2hunt,yeah,i've spent enough on ammo and the handi to have bought a savage bolt....and with the extra barrels i bought and the extra 2 scopes i needed i coulda got my Tikka.....I'll end up taking a hosing on the handi's probably,but I do learn from my mistakes .....you DO get what you pay for

I LOVE MY TIKKA !!!!!

( I one put that I loved my handi,but that was after the only good group I ever got out of my 243 superlight....it was a fluke)

theTikka T3 lite CONSISTENTLY shoots half inch groups at 100 yards,and I popped a 20 oz coke bottle at 180
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« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2006, 01:30:31 AM »
I picked one up last weekend at the new Sportsman's warehouse in Pittsburgh.  It was $259.  I LOVE IT.

THe little gun shoots.  I shot it Sunday and was amazed.  I took it back out yesterday just to make sure I was not crazy and it shot better!

It was the best $259 I ever spent.  The blueing is nice, the action is smooth. the stock is not that bad (still some mold lines which I took care of with a file and 10 minutes).

Sweet little shooter.  I love it.

I will be getting more savages for sure.

Greg
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