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« on: February 28, 2005, 04:29:50 PM »
Wooooooo-hooooooooooooooo!  The moment I have been waiting for.  Just got off the phone with a genteman at Warne.  They are making European Dovetail Maxima Rings for the Tikka rifles!  They attach right on the reciever on the rifle.  Check em out http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=15496&title=EUROPEAN+DOVETAIL+MAXIMA+RINGS&s=35132#35132.  Just ordered a pair today, this is by far the best option I have found for mounting a scope on these rifles.  Why use a rail when you can purchase these?  My Tikka T3 is chambered in .338 WIN MAG.  He said these rings have no problem with it.  Just a heads up for everyone that didn't know about these!   :D  :D  :-D
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« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2005, 04:37:39 PM »
And you now just discovered these? :)

I've been using these rings on my Tikkas for about 2 years now.  Yes, they are pretty good, but VERY heavy.

I did have a lot of trouble with the gloss finished rings, but the nickle plated ones were fine.

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« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2005, 04:46:05 PM »
Zachary-

LOL.. Too funny, thought I discovered somethin new  :) :lol:   How are they working out?  I'll be buying the 1" mediums with a Matte finish.
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« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2005, 06:39:52 PM »
Thanks for the heads up.  I just got the Tikka T3 stainless laminate in 338 and have a dandy Burris Black diamond 3-12 that I was wanting to put on it but it only came with 1" rings,   Do you know if they have the locator pin like the rings that came with the rifle, I know the leupold doesn't.  

PS, I'd also like to hear of your experience with the tikka in 338.  Any good loads that you've found for it?

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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2005, 01:37:36 AM »
The Warnes DO come with the pins on the bottom to stop against the receiver under recoil.

While I got the Warne rings on my Tikka Whitetail Hunters, I do NOT plan on getting them for the T3.  Why?  Well, the Warne rings are VERY heavy and that kinda defeats the purpose of the T3.  Also, same thing goes for the Burris Black Diamond 3x-12x, of which I also own on, and also on a .338, except mine is on a Winchester M70 Classic Stainless.  Now, on THAT rifle I have the Warne rings, but, again, I wouldn't put them on the T3.

Soooooo, what would I use on the T3? (other than the stock rings which appear to be junk to me.)  I would probably have to say the Talley alluminum rings.  Talley has excellent quality and their alluminum rings are very lightweight.

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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2005, 05:01:03 AM »
The difference between the warne rings and BD scope will probably amount up to around a pound.  The extra light gathering ability of the BD along with the ballistic plex will probably be worth the extra weight, and I can always carry around the lighter leupold 2-7x33 as a back up.  I probably won't notice the extra pound anyway.

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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2005, 08:40:34 AM »
Zachary,

Although the purpose of the T3 'Lite' is for the 'Lite', I don't need much more lite factor with the hard hitting recoil of the 338.  I can compromise the extra weight of the Warne rings.  They just look like the best option IMO.  I had the Burris Signature rings on the gun before and didn't have a very good experience with that.  Thanks for letting me know im not the genius that just noticed these came out  :-D   :oops:   :wink:
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2005, 02:10:07 PM »
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Zachary,

Although the purpose of the T3 'Lite' is for the 'Lite', I don't need much more lite factor with the hard hitting recoil of the 338.  I can compromise the extra weight of the Warne rings.  They just look like the best option IMO.  I had the Burris Signature rings on the gun before and didn't have a very good experience with that.  Thanks for letting me know im not the genius that just noticed these came out  :-D   :oops:   :wink:


Whoah, I love Buris Signature Rings, have them on all my guns.  Why didn't they work out with your Tikka?  Not fir for the European spec rail?
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2005, 02:33:45 PM »
I've never tried signature rings but I don't care for the Z rings at all.

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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2005, 03:21:33 PM »
What happened to my Burris rings........... Installed the signature rings and bases on the T3.  Everything was set up perfect.  Take her out to the range, first 3 shots with the .338 were MOA.  I take 3 more shots, and they are all over the paper.  I take a look at the scope.  From the recoil of the gun, one of the screws holding the rear ring on to the rear base snapped in half.  My guess is for some odd reason (1) the rings were defected and there was a space in between the scope and ring, causing the Leupold VX-3 3.5x10 1" tube to jolt forward and cause the snap.. I have spoke to Burris about this and they sent me brand new rings and new screw but I am not taking any chances.  6 rounds through the gun, havent been able to see much from it.   :roll:
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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2005, 03:41:38 PM »
Has anyone tried the millet angle lock rings for the tikka?  Just wondering.

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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2005, 03:37:47 AM »
I had the Millets came with the gun didn't like them bought warnes work great. I don't really like Z rings heard how great they are bought two
sets wonder how many srews have been broken tighting them I really had to put it to them to keep them from movig

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« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2005, 05:18:36 AM »
Two points to add to the discussion.  

First, I have Millet AngleLoc rings on my Tikka M695(Stainless/Laminate) Whitetail
Hunter, in .25-06 Rem, and have no issues with these rings.  They are holding down
a Nikon Monarch scope, and the last group I shot with this combo was a .4 MOA,
with 85 gr. Combined Tech. Ballistic Tips.

I just received a set of Warne Maxima Grooved Receiver series rings, in the "high"
size, with a matte finish...Yes they are heavy.  They were to be used to mount a
Mueller Optics 4-16x50mm Sport Dot scope, on a new T-3, in .223 Rem..  Well
"High" isn't high enough for this scope, with the 50mm objective.  Actually
there is enough clearance to mount the scope, but the objective ring on the scope
just ever so slightly touches the top of the barrel.  Not good for the finish, and
this may introduce a pressure point on the barrel, as it warms.  So, I have a set of
"High" Warne rings to add to my pile of "extra" scope rings, and Brownell will be
getting an order for "Extra High" Warne rings.  

I do agree with Zachary, that on a light rifle, that one wants to stay a light rifle,
these rings do not make sense.  But I actually want this .223 to have little
muzzle jump, so the extra weight, from the Warne rings, and the heavy
Mueller scope, should help here.  I know I should have just purchased a heavy
barrel varminter, but I just could not help myself when this little T-3, in .223 Rem.
was calling my name in the gun shop.  I purchased it for some varmint shooting,
near country residences, with low report rounds.  And it does that well.  

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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2005, 12:51:00 PM »
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What happened to my Burris rings........... Installed the signature rings and bases on the T3.  Everything was set up perfect.  Take her out to the range, first 3 shots with the .338 were MOA.  I take 3 more shots, and they are all over the paper.  I take a look at the scope.  From the recoil of the gun, one of the screws holding the rear ring on to the rear base snapped in half.  My guess is for some odd reason (1) the rings were defected and there was a space in between the scope and ring, causing the Leupold VX-3 3.5x10 1" tube to jolt forward and cause the snap.. I have spoke to Burris about this and they sent me brand new rings and new screw but I am not taking any chances.  6 rounds through the gun, havent been able to see much from it.   :roll:


Were those signature Z rings or standard base rings?
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« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2005, 01:14:03 PM »
Pos-Align signature rings.. Could have been caused because of the pos-align inserts.  They sent me new rings made for 'no' pos-align inserts, but I dont have any interest in giving things another try.  I have Burris rings and bases on another rifle, but I would feel more safe with these Warne rings on a high recoiling rifle of this sort.
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« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2005, 04:15:50 PM »
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Has anyone tried the millet angle lock rings for the tikka?  Just wondering.


I had Millet rings on a couple of my rifles back some years back - like the late 80s.  I wasn't too happy with them.

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« Reply #16 on: March 02, 2005, 04:34:17 PM »
Fella's;

Hmmmm, very interestink!  I bought a Tikka Whitetail in .338 this past summer.  Put a Leupold VXIII 3.5-10 X 50mm on it in Burris bases.  Never could get the gun to zero & hold properly.  Found that the rear windage type base couldn't hold the rear ring steady.  Regardless of what I did, I'd always find fresh marks on the rear ring indicating that it'd been moving around.

When the gun comes back from the stock guy, the Talley bases & rings are sitting here waiting to hold the aforementioned Loopy to the gun.  This hasn't been my first, or second, problem with Burris products.  I'm done with 'em.

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« Reply #17 on: March 02, 2005, 04:47:58 PM »
900,

I wouldn't go to the extreme of saying I am done with Burris rings and bases, but for this gun anyways and i'm done with the pos-align crap!!  Rings ordered today, will be here Friday.. I'll post pics then.

Jason
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« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2005, 01:30:26 PM »
Just got my new Warne rings put on the Tikka.  Take a look:




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« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2005, 05:15:56 PM »
What hieght are those warne rings, and what scope is it?  Thanks

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« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2005, 05:43:16 PM »
Scope:  Leupold VX-III 3.5x10x40mm
Warne Rings:  Warne European Dovetail Maxima Rings 1" High, Matte  from Brownells (http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/ProductDetail.aspx?p=15496&title=EUROPEAN+DOVETAIL+MAXIMA+RINGS&s=35133#35133)

They are solid as a rock, I think they will do me real well.
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« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2005, 09:48:29 PM »
I was thinking about putting a 2.5-8x36 VXIII on my stainless laminate tikka, do you think the medium rings would work?  It looks like you have quite a bit of clearance.

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« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2005, 04:43:16 AM »
Yep!!  The Medium rings would sure work.  I went with the high just to be cautious, the medium probably would have worked fine as well.  Not a big deal.  I think you will like 'em!
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