Author Topic: Just courious (Read 1499 times)

jvs · « **Reply #30 on:** February 19, 2005, 11:21:58 PM »

If the past is any indication of what the future may be, things may look like this.....when it comes to prices:

As long as inflation cruises along at about 3% a year and the dollar remains stable, price increases should be minimal. Nothing in this world is the same price as it was 10, 20 or 30 yrs ago. $10 a yr increase was only an example for rifles. When things cost the Manufacturer 3% more every year, for whatever reason, the cost has to be passed on.

If, for instance, inflation starts somewhere in this world-wide economic experiment, prices could start moving up to keep up with inflation or the difference in exchange rates. It happens all the time.

In the future, some of the now younger people may be able to say "Cripes, I bought that Rifle for $429, now they sell for almost $1000".

It doesn't take long for a good round of inflation for a few years to artificially increase the price of goods. So if you're thinking about buying a new rifle, either foreign or domestic, there may not be a better time. Because no one knows what the economic future holds. If I was smarter when I was younger and had the foresight, I'd be sitting pretty with a whole bunch of NIB Collector Rifles or some Sharps right now.

But back then there was this size 10 Blonde........Who cared about guns? NOT ME

There is no greater distraction in this world for a young guy than a pair of high riding 'Daisy Dukes'.

JPSaxMan · « **Reply #31 on:** February 20, 2005, 05:08:04 AM »

Quote from: half_inch_group

But back then there was this size 10 Blonde........Who cared about guns? NOT ME

There is no greater distraction in this world for a young guy than a pair of high riding 'Daisy Dukes'.

Tell me half_inch, did that distraction become something more than that? If it did...you lucky dog you :twisted: .

95Road King · « **Reply #32 on:** February 20, 2005, 07:02:13 AM »

I worked in a gun store in part of 03-04 (yr). We sent back 17 new factory gun's for various problem's. 15 were Remington's.
Nuff said.

260 AAR · « **Reply #33 on:** February 20, 2005, 07:12:15 AM »

Dear Don,
You are right about Ackley/japs etc. They were very tough actions. I had an "excursion" with a 600 Rem[6.5/308] where I fired a case that was wrongly loaded with 50.0 gr Bullseye instead of the H-380 and the thing held together . I almost killed the Marine who loaded the case but that is another story. A factory rep for Rem estimated pressure at 120,000 psi. The bolt was ruined[still have it if you want pictures] but the action is still in the field with a new bolt. Same barrel though.
Savages are tough troo. I had a rifle in here awhile back the had the most beautiful [?] split barrel just like you see in the comics! Seems like the rocket scientist here in Or left a cleaning brush in his 7mm RM and then decided to "blow it out" with a loaded round. Surprisingly the only damage was his barrel and underpants. I installed a new barrel and off he went into the sunset never to be seen again, THANKFULLY! Savages a a bit ugly[?] but accurate. Rems lately haven`t been as good as in years past. Maybe one of these days they`ll get their act together on the barrels and produce a better rifle. Til then I`ll keep using the actions for customs etc. Just write in a new barrel as a very real possibility when buying/trading.

Aloha, Mark[in Or]

Zachary · « **Reply #34 on:** February 20, 2005, 11:26:26 AM »

Quote from: 95Road King

I worked in a gun store in part of 03-04 (yr). We sent back 17 new factory gun's for various problem's. 15 were Remington's.
Nuff said.

Really? What kind of problems? Were these problems limited to any particular cartridge? The reason I ask is because a gunsmith (the Owner of Answer Products) once told me that the chambers in the ultra Mags were messed up for a short while. Can't remember exactly what he said, but it was something to that affect.

Zachary

Don Fischer · « **Reply #35 on:** February 20, 2005, 01:28:44 PM »

There seem's to be a mountain of testomony here that there are problem's at Remington which I hope they fix. I was at one time a huge Remington fan but, for me form follow's function! It seem's that the question about Savage has been lost to a disscussion on the merit's or lack of at Remington. Maybe we should print this colmun out in paperback and send it to Remington? 260AAR is not the gunsmith from Powers, Ore is he? D.H.?

Handwerk · « **Reply #36 on:** February 20, 2005, 01:30:28 PM »

I too don't care for the savages.They may shoot well but they look and operate so crude. Compared to the tikka they loose hands down. If it takes a extra $100 to get a better gun it's money well spent.

95Road King · « **Reply #37 on:** February 20, 2005, 04:31:47 PM »

Zachary:
The problem's with Rem;s. when I was present was:
(1) Could not get the bolt to go into that gun!!
(2) Could not chamber a round of the cal. marked on bbl.
(3) Could not get the bolt saftey unlocked.
These are the one's I saw in person. The rest is what I heard the owner saying. Also I don't know the ratio of Rem. sale's verse's the other
gun company's. You can have trouble with any of them these day's!!!
I have a brand new N.E.F. 204 ruger cal. back at the factory right now for the 2nd time. Bullet's were keyholing from the first shot. I guess it's just my turn in the barrel.

JPSaxMan · « **Reply #38 on:** February 20, 2005, 04:51:18 PM »

And I though it was just me...getting defective products period.

I got a pair of Bushnell 10x42 H20 binocs back in September.
Well one evening in October, I was hunting over a field, and there was a steady rain. In a matter of 20 minutes, I saw splotches and fogged vision in the binocs. I called Bushnell. Lady said the nitrogen seal had probably busted and for me to send them back. I thought, "I need these for the rest of the season, **** that. " Then I have a Browning Black Ice 6 LED light that constantly blows the Xenon bulb. Had the whole light replaced and it still does it. GGGRRRRRR. What the hell is wrong with these companies?

95Road King · « **Reply #39 on:** February 20, 2005, 05:33:40 PM »

Fishmano29:
I too had a pair of Bushnell's get full of water last summer. Got caught in a hard downpour while Groundhog hunting. Gave them away to a young kid. (Nephew)
Bought a pair of 10 pwr. BARSKA's for 60 buck's. Waterproof, fogproof!!! Not bad for the money!!

Graybeard · « **Reply #40 on:** February 20, 2005, 05:38:19 PM »

A mountain of evidence? Perhaps a half dozen folks known to be Remington bashers hardly constitute a mountain of evidence. Quite honest some of what I read on these forums and others I take with a VERY LARGE DOSE OF SALT.

kenscot · « **Reply #41 on:** February 20, 2005, 06:09:39 PM »

I own 4 rem 700 bdl's 3006, 270, 243, 7mm rem mag and one vs in
22-250 all 1 1 moa shooter or better I did have some problems with the 243 when I first got I tried several differant brands of factory ammo as well as differant handloads the only one that would group at 1 moa was the rem 100gr corelock ( first time I could not find a hand load to out shoot factory stuff) everything else would shoot between 2-3 moa.
I call remington and was passed on to one of there head repair guys and was told that the 2-3 was with in there sandards but to ship the rifle up to them anyway I got he rifle back in 2 weeks time I was told that the bore was slightly heat checked ( perhaps my handloads were alittle hot) and that they hand lapped the bore no charge. since then it has been shooting federal ammo with 100gr. noler partitions 3/4 " I can't complain I only wish they would make a model 7 left handed

95Road King · « **Reply #42 on:** February 21, 2005, 01:26:22 AM »

Get on the website XTREME ACCURACY and ask about Rem;s.

JPSaxMan · « **Reply #43 on:** February 21, 2005, 04:09:00 AM »

Quote from: Graybeard

A mountain of evidence? Perhaps a half dozen folks known to be Remington bashers hardly constitute a mountain of evidence. Quite honest some of what I read on these forums and others I take with a VERY LARGE DOSE OF SALT.

I only own two Remington's, but both of em have never given me a problem. When I got the 700 I was scrutinizing over the manual because Remington gave you a list of self-tests to perform on the rifle and if this happened, the rifle was at fault and you were to return it. I think there was really only one test, and that was to test the sear in the action to see if it depressed freely with pressure and if it hesitated or whatever, I was to send the gun back. It passed that test and has killed several a deer. But I think in this day in age you'll have quality control issues wherever you go.

95Road King · « **Reply #44 on:** February 21, 2005, 11:08:54 AM »

Even tho I;ve been bashing Rem;s, I have a model 722 in .222 cal.that is a real tack driver. Course it was made in 1959.
The other is a newer mod. 700 in 17 Rem. cal. Nice gun, good shooter!! Would I buy one today?? If the price was right, hell ya!!!