Weed shops.

[phalanx]

They are popping up everywhere. I don't like that crap it makes me sick. But a lot of people do. I hate that they might be driving. You can even get it online now.

[ironglow]

Disgusting at the least..  I think there is one a few miles from here, but I drove through the reservation the other day..and it seems like there was a pot shop in every tobacco sales place.

    I guess I never figured there would be that many people hooked on the  garbage..

[oldandslow]

Friday is April 1st and they will open here. It's the democrat's answer to diversifying our economy. Now we will have pot along with oil.   

[phalanx]

Friday is April 1st and they will open here. It's the democrat's answer to diversifying our economy. Now we will have pot along with oil.   

Yuck. My Fiancé wanted to go look around in one. She wasn't impressed it stunk like weed. You can’t go into a place that sells alcohol drinking. Or if you already look drunk.

[orerancher]

More Dope Stores in Oregon then anywhere Else in the Country....

The Democrats that Control this State, Want the Sheep Stoned, Stupid and Not Payin Attention....

[gene_225]

Yesterday my neighbor said something about pot-heads and I said I wouldn't know since I don't hang around with any. His response was "yes you do, me". That was a surprise. We have grow houses all over around here, that I do know. Just hope I don't meet any on the road.

[Matt]

You guys are hilarious, you speak on and bout something that you clearly have little to no information on.

I am a Pot Head, not scared to admit it either, and I am quiet successful in spite of it   Though I have to use the hemp products as the real stuff is still illegal here, I would much rather have the real stuff, but hemp works fine for the purpose I use it for. I bet all  of you guys would much rather seek help from chemical concoctions cooked up in a lab then peddled by your local Doc and Pharmacist who are in cahoots with the maker of these chemicals... Hmm yeah there is no way that something God gave us could possibly  be better than the Pharma Industries concoctions.  So Weed is a Plant that God himself put here on this planet, but you guys call it a drug or dope, So God is a Drug dealer / Manufacturer... Hmm nah just can't buy into that kinda of propaganda.... and that is what all of you have bought into..... propaganda..... for the Big Pharma Industry. I find it awful funny that many of those pills folks swallow on the daily are synthetic or altered versions of things we can find in nature, provided by the creator.... demonized by men who benefit from the sale of the chemical concoctions....

Oh and as to the driving... Oh My God, how many freaking people are on the roads on Rx Meds, Drunk, distracted by phone, radio, eating, talking to passengers?  It's all BS folks do NOT get high on weed and run the roads... No one wants to drive if they are stoned, they want to chill, munch, watch comedy, create art or software or many other things but driving... nah only if you have to then you only drive 15mph and are extra aware of everything around you...  again you guys really have no clue other than what you have been trained to believe.  " The Programming is Strong with These Gentlemen"

Matt

[Lloyd Smale]

well im one that doesnt like ANY pain meds. I lived on them for 20 years and hate them. I used to be a pot smoker when young. Not just occasionally either. Dont care for it anymore either. But there SURE are people driving down the road high on pot and like you said precribed drugs too. Because theres drunk drivers, drivers doing precribed opiots ect doesnt make driving high on pot justified. I live in a small town of about 2k. It is a tourist area though. There are 3 pot shops in our small town. One at a indian casino about a 1/4 mile from here. All you have to do is look at the people coming and going out of them and youll see (at least around here) that there far from the cream of the crop citizens and are same bunch that hangs around the bars and drives home after drinking. Then add to it that a good many of them do all three. They smoke pot, drink and take any pill they can find. Im sure theres legit buyers who care and wouldnt drive stoned but there more the exception then the rule. I could care less if someone smokes pot. Like i said ive sure smoked my share. Heck i was even one of those who smoked it outside of the bar and drove home. But i sure cant justify what i did back then.

 Pot like alcohol is a money maker. It gives government tax dollars and its the only reason its legal. Our whole country is becoming a bunch of drugged up and drunk people that want to be numb to whats going on around them. It does nothing good for this country. I had no problem with legit users that had a script from a legit doctor. If you prefer it to something like oxy i think your actually being intelligent but 90 percent of the people i knew that had doctors scripts when that was nessisary went to doctors that for 300 bucks would write a script for a hang nail. Now with it being legal you cant really think most of the buyers at those pot stores are there for medical reasons. There there for the same reason they go to or went to the bar. To catch a buzz.

 My only vice in that regard anymore is a couple fingers of bourbon once or twice a week or a beer in the summer on a hot day. Whiskey is one of the oldest remedies for pain and probably more effective then pot at relieving pain. But how many doctors prescribe it? I could tell everyone i drink a little to relieve pain but id be a Lier if i did. I live in pain every day of my life. Have for over 40 years. If i drugged away my pain id have been planted in the ground 20 years ago. I chuckle at those who feel then need to medicate for a sore leg or a bit of back pain. This country has gotten way to soft!!

 Ive broke my back, shattered my ankle broke both hips and quite a few bones. Ive got two hip replacements an ankle replacement and a knee replacement and a metal cage in my back. I manage without anything stronger then tylenol. Does it cure the pain? Hell no but ive excepted it as part of my life. A life i want to live with my head screwed on properly. Which kind of makes me chuckle too. My wife will bring home a big bottle of tylenol and she probably takes 3/4s of them herself. Every little headache or ache she has she thinks she needs to drug away. Ive also got buddys who take opiates every day and really do need them. One that wears a fentanyl patch 24/7 and takes morphine for peak pain and without them couldnt get out of bed. Ask them what pot does for REAL pain and they will laugh at you. You can have the pot and the opiates as far as im concerned. But thats just my opinion and whats that worth.

[ironglow]

  While it is well known that many of our most effective pharmical compounds are derived from plants;
 Quinine...Cinchona plant
 Aspirin...  Willow bark
 Cocaine... Cocoa plant
 Digitalis... Foxglove
 Morphine... Opium poppy
 Menthol... Mint
 Atropine... Belladonna
   
     ...And on and on..  Plants can be beneficial and salubrious, a blessing in many ways.  Just like a Smith & Wesson or an AR 15, they are wonderful...yet some people abuse the right and misuse the gun.

[Lloyd Smale]

i did have to chuckle yesterday. Some women was on fox saying that her son committed suicide because he was addicted to pot and it put him in a downhill spiral and in his suicide note he blamed it all on pot addiction. Give me a break. I can honestly say ive never heard anyone claim to be addicted to pot. I guess though with a weak mind you can get mentaly addicted to about anything.

[DDZ]

I'd much rather be driving on the road with people having smoked weed than with people that have been boozing.  Alcohol has ruined more lives than any amount of weed has. Yet people don't see it as bad, because its legal. To add to what Matt said. Yes people think there is nothing wrong with prescription drugs because they were prescribed and legal.  Wonder how many people have been in a car accident because their legal prescription drug put them asleep, or made them not able to function well enough to drive a car safely.  Its never the prescription drug that is blamed.  Another thing that has caused lots of car accidents is cell phones.  I think cell phones in cars have probably caused way more accidents than weed in cars.  Again I think I'd rather be in a car with someone that has smoked a little weed, than someone that is looking at their phone all the time.
I was using my cell phone for directions once. I just looked down at it for a second at which time the traffic stopped in front of me. The only thing that saved me from rear ending the car in front of me was I was able to swerve into the opposite lane, and I was so thankful there was not a car in the opposite lane.  People don't seem to concerned about cell phones in cars, but freak out when the thought of weed becoming legal and someone driving after having smoked some.     

[oldandslow]

I know a few people that use medical MJ for pain relief and everyone of them say it works. It has been available here for that purpose for several years. I have been told it isn't a problem to get the illegal type either but wouldn't know as I have never felt a need for it, legal or otherwise. Aleve is my choice of pain relief and it seems to have no side effects.

[Lloyd Smale]

no doubt true but its like saying id rather be shot with a 22 then an o6. Personaly i prefer neither

I'd much rather be driving on the road with people having smoked weed than with people that have been boozing.  Alcohol has ruined more lives than any amount of weed has. Yet people don't see it as bad, because its legal. To add to what Matt said. Yes people think there is nothing wrong with prescription drugs because they were prescribed and legal.  Wonder how many people have been in a car accident because their legal prescription drug put them asleep, or made them not able to function well enough to drive a car safely.  Its never the prescription drug that is blamed.  Another thing that has caused lots of car accidents is cell phones.  I think cell phones in cars have probably caused way more accidents than weed in cars.  Again I think I'd rather be in a car with someone that has smoked a little weed, than someone that is looking at their phone all the time.
I was using my cell phone for directions once. I just looked down at it for a second at which time the traffic stopped in front of me. The only thing that saved me from rear ending the car in front of me was I was able to swerve into the opposite lane, and I was so thankful there was not a car in the opposite lane.  People don't seem to concerned about cell phones in cars, but freak out when the thought of weed becoming legal and someone driving after having smoked some.   

[Lloyd Smale]

doctor made me quit the aleave. He said take tylenol. Alieve is suppose to be hard on your kidneys Especially if you take to much to often. But i will say it worked better on pain then tylenol.

I know a few people that use medical MJ for pain relief and everyone of them say it works. It has been available here for that purpose for several years. I have been told it isn't a problem to get the illegal type either but wouldn't know as I have never felt a need for it, legal or otherwise. Aleve is my choice of pain relief and it seems to have no side effects.

[ironglow]

People have been killed by some who were on booze, and other by some who were stoked on pot.  I doubt it is any fun either way.
   As Lloyd said..30/06, .308 or 12 gauge slug..what difference does it make?

  I assume that not everyone who tries marijuana becomes an addict, but there are many on much worse stuff, who say they started with Marijuana.  Even the addiction counsellors say that Marijuana is a "gateway" drug.

   I find it hard to understand why anyone would "roll the dice" to try their first shot at any illicit .drug

[phalanx]

When i got out of the Air Force and went to college i smoked weed. It made me sick then and it does now.
Allergic to it i guess, some people are from what I've been told.

[neckisred]

Yesterday my neighbor said something about pot-heads and I said I wouldn't know since I don't hang around with any. His response was "yes you do, me". That was a surprise. We have grow houses all over around here, that I do know. Just hope I don't meet any on the road.

And there we have it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think most of the resident hypocrites here would keel over if they knew how many people they consider "good people", that partake in the "devil's lettuce". Maybe even those right beside you in the pew.....................

[ironglow]

  I guess I can understand how some youthful, inexperienced people will 'tempt the devil', by doing risky behavior.
  I did foolish things in my youth..drove to fast, took silly chances working in the woods, climbing and challenged people I should not have challenged, etc., each a learning experience.
   
   I never got caught up in addictive substances though...just not my thing..

  ..But as we mature, most outgrow silly behavior.

    However, I certainly acknowledge the usefulness of plants in the field of pharmacy.

[DDZ]

Yesterday my neighbor said something about pot-heads and I said I wouldn't know since I don't hang around with any. His response was "yes you do, me". That was a surprise. We have grow houses all over around here, that I do know. Just hope I don't meet any on the road.

And there we have it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think most of the resident hypocrites here would keel over if they knew how many people they consider "good people", that partake in the "devil's lettuce". Maybe even those right beside you in the pew.....................

Resident hypocrites here? Do you know that there are hypocrites here, or are you just insinuating?  Do you consider yourself a good person, because you don't smoke weed. Jesus said no one is good, except God alone.  Do you think people that drink alcohol are good people?  I know one thing I'd rather be sitting beside someone in a pew that smokes a little weed than someone that is prideful,  judgemental. or a despicable liar.   

Studies have shown that driving under the influence of alcohol is way worse than driving under the influence of weed. Why is there not the outrage over the availability of alcohol as there is for weed?  You can buy it in grocery stores now.    There are lots more alcoholics than there are addicted pot smokers, but thats okay isn't it? Alcohol good because its legal. Pot bad because its illegal.  BTW, I don't smoke pot. I used to when I was younger for recreation. mostly on weekends. Never used any other drug. nor was I ever addicted to pot. Its pretty much a lie that its addicting, and leads you to use other drugs.   

[neckisred]

Yesterday my neighbor said something about pot-heads and I said I wouldn't know since I don't hang around with any. His response was "yes you do, me". That was a surprise. We have grow houses all over around here, that I do know. Just hope I don't meet any on the road.

And there we have it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think most of the resident hypocrites here would keel over if they knew how many people they consider "good people", that partake in the "devil's lettuce". Maybe even those right beside you in the pew.....................

Resident hypocrites here? Do you know that there are hypocrites here, or are you just insinuating?  Do you consider yourself a good person, because you don't smoke weed. Jesus said no one is good, except God alone.  Do you think people that drink alcohol are good people?  I know one thing I'd rather be sitting beside someone in a pew that smokes a little weed than someone that is prideful,  judgemental. or a despicable liar.   

Studies have shown that driving under the influence of alcohol is way worse than driving under the influence of weed. Why is there not the outrage over the availability of alcohol as there is for weed?  You can buy it in grocery stores now.    There are lots more alcoholics than there are addicted pot smokers, but thats okay isn't it? Alcohol good because its legal. Pot bad because its illegal.  BTW, I don't smoke pot. I used to when I was younger for recreation. mostly on weekends. Never used any other drug. nor was I ever addicted to pot. Its pretty much a lie that its addicting, and leads you to use other drugs.

WOW!!!!!!!!! You definitely took that completely the wrong way. I'll try not to be sarcastic this time, and maybe you won't get your shorts in a bunch.

MY point is a LOT of people smoke/eat weed. People you would never suspect. They simply don't share that fact with the rest of the world because of all the hypocrites who think it is bad, AND it is still illegal on a Federal level.

I quoted Gene because I'm sure he had no idea his neighbor smoked pot. Probably even liked the guy up to that point. But does he think differently of him now? You bet he does.

I'll bet you whatever you can afford to lose, had anyone but Matt posted that he smoked weed, the comments in this thread would be much different.

Did Matt's statement change their view? Nope. It's simply his house and the resident hypocrites are afraid to get on their soap box.

[gene_225]

Actually, I still like the neighbor, stop to talk when I walk the dog, and look at the current knife or sword he is forging. I can't see how not knowing he smoked pot makes me a hypocrite or how not recognizing I may know folks who do makes me one either. In fact I do know that some at least, in our church do partake of pot and or alcohol. Baffled by all this "hypocrite" talk unless it is just a way to beat up the other guy; kind of seems like that might be it.

[neckisred]

Actually, I still like the neighbor, stop to talk when I walk the dog, and look at the current knife or sword he is forging. I can't see how not knowing he smoked pot makes me a hypocrite or how not recognizing I may know folks who do makes me one either. In fact I do know that some at least, in our church do partake of pot and or alcohol. Baffled by all this "hypocrite" talk unless it is just a way to beat up the other guy; kind of seems like that might be it.

That was in no way aimed at you Gene. My apologies if you took it that way. Good on you for not judging your neighbor. Smoking a little weed doesn't make him a bad guy.

For those anti-weed folks who know nothing but the propaganda, your online. Do a little research.

[DDZ]

Yesterday my neighbor said something about pot-heads and I said I wouldn't know since I don't hang around with any. His response was "yes you do, me". That was a surprise. We have grow houses all over around here, that I do know. Just hope I don't meet any on the road.

And there we have it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think most of the resident hypocrites here would keel over if they knew how many people they consider "good people", that partake in the "devil's lettuce". Maybe even those right beside you in the pew.....................

Resident hypocrites here? Do you know that there are hypocrites here, or are you just insinuating?  Do you consider yourself a good person, because you don't smoke weed. Jesus said no one is good, except God alone.  Do you think people that drink alcohol are good people?  I know one thing I'd rather be sitting beside someone in a pew that smokes a little weed than someone that is prideful,  judgemental. or a despicable liar.   

Studies have shown that driving under the influence of alcohol is way worse than driving under the influence of weed. Why is there not the outrage over the availability of alcohol as there is for weed?  You can buy it in grocery stores now.    There are lots more alcoholics than there are addicted pot smokers, but thats okay isn't it? Alcohol good because its legal. Pot bad because its illegal.  BTW, I don't smoke pot. I used to when I was younger for recreation. mostly on weekends. Never used any other drug. nor was I ever addicted to pot. Its pretty much a lie that its addicting, and leads you to use other drugs.

WOW!!!!!!!!! You definitely took that completely the wrong way. I'll try not to be sarcastic this time, and maybe you won't get your shorts in a bunch.

MY point is a LOT of people smoke/eat weed. People you would never suspect. They simply don't share that fact with the rest of the world because of all the hypocrites who think it is bad, AND it is still illegal on a Federal level.

I quoted Gene because I'm sure he had no idea his neighbor smoked pot. Probably even liked the guy up to that point. But does he think differently of him now? You bet he does.

I'll bet you whatever you can afford to lose, had anyone but Matt posted that he smoked weed, the comments in this thread would be much different.

Did Matt's statement change their view? Nope. It's simply his house and the resident hypocrites are afraid to get on their soap box.

Okay sorry if I did take it the wrong way, but there wasn't many ways to see it when you said "Most of the resident hypocrites here"   I took it with "Here",  meaning on this forum, and on this thread.  If you didn't mean on this forum maybe some more words should have been added, so we get your meaning of who the hypocrites are.   Also just wondering how you think the comments would be different if someone else had posted what Matt did. Guess I don't understand that direction either.  Actually Matts post was the only one I agreed with here. That is why I added the comments I did. If someone else had said the same thing I would have replied, and posted  the same.

[ironglow]

  From Neck is red; my replies in blue

     "
WOW!!!!!!!!! You definitely took that completely the wrong way. I'll try not to be sarcastic this time, and maybe you won't get your shorts in a bunch.  true, sarcasm doesn't aid in understanding.

MY point is a LOT of people smoke/eat weed. People you would never suspect. They simply don't share that fact with the rest of the world because of all the hypocrites who think it is bad, AND it is still illegal on a Federal level.
  Just because many people do something, that doesn't necessarily make it right, does it?
 Many people lie also, but does that make lying legit?
  By what measure are people who disagree, targets to be labelled hypocrites?  Somehow, I have always figured legitimate, polite disagreement to be a mark of civilized interchange..

I quoted Gene because I'm sure he had no idea his neighbor smoked pot. Probably even liked the guy up to that point. But does he think differently of him now? You bet he does.
  I may have neighbors who smoke pot, and I wouldn't get on their case, although I may privately question their wisdom.

I'll bet you whatever you can afford to lose, had anyone but Matt posted that he smoked weed, the comments in this thread would be much different.
  Withhold honest dialog, for some irrational fear?  So far, the first amendment still is in effect... but it IS being negated in some areas of our culture..

Did Matt's statement change their view? Nope. It's simply his house and the resident hypocrites are afraid to get on their soap box."
  Didn't change my view..but as usual, I will try to be considerate and refrain from labels.
  Should there be a heavy price to pay for being open and forthright?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  So often questions are posed by citing extremes..  For instance, "driving under the influence of alcohol is worse than driving under the influence of weed" !  That may well be true, but how about driving while not under the influence of anything ?
   There may be some pot smokers in my church..there may be some who are hooked on drinking, gambling or porn..but what the Lord asks of us is to continually strive for the higher plane, to break away from any such addictions.
  I don't like my own sins..and am daily asking forgiveness and correction..how is that hypocrisy?

   OK, perhaps there are some here do not believe in God...that's their perogative... take it or leave it..

[neckisred]

  From Neck is red; my replies in blue

     "
WOW!!!!!!!!! You definitely took that completely the wrong way. I'll try not to be sarcastic this time, and maybe you won't get your shorts in a bunch.  true, sarcasm doesn't aid in understanding.

MY point is a LOT of people smoke/eat weed. People you would never suspect. They simply don't share that fact with the rest of the world because of all the hypocrites who think it is bad, AND it is still illegal on a Federal level.
  Just because many people do something, that doesn't necessarily make it right, does it?
 Many people lie also, but does that make lying legit?
  By what measure are people who disagree, targets to be labelled hypocrites?  Somehow, I have always figured legitimate, polite disagreement to be a mark of civilized interchange..

I quoted Gene because I'm sure he had no idea his neighbor smoked pot. Probably even liked the guy up to that point. But does he think differently of him now? You bet he does.
  I may have neighbors who smoke pot, and I wouldn't get on their case, although I may privately question their wisdom.

I'll bet you whatever you can afford to lose, had anyone but Matt posted that he smoked weed, the comments in this thread would be much different.
  Withhold honest dialog, for some irrational fear?  So far, the first amendment still is in effect... but it IS being negated in some areas of our culture..

Did Matt's statement change their view? Nope. It's simply his house and the resident hypocrites are afraid to get on their soap box."
  Didn't change my view..but as usual, I will try to be considerate and refrain from labels.
  Should there be a heavy price to pay for being open and forthright?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  So often questions are posed by citing extremes..  For instance, "driving under the influence of alcohol is worse than driving under the influence of weed" !  That may well be true, but how about driving while not under the influence of anything ?
   There may be some pot smokers in my church..there may be some who are hooked on drinking, gambling or porn..but what the Lord asks of us is to continually strive for the higher plane, to break away from any such addictions.
  I don't like my own sins..and am daily asking forgiveness and correction..how is that hypocrisy?

   OK, perhaps there are some here do not believe in God...that's their perogative... take it or leave it..

I rest my case....................................

[Dee]

Well, I spent 21 years on the front lines of the so called "War on Drugs". Busting dealers, intercepting shipping of all kinds of drugs, and narcotics, and working surveillance on marijuana growers.
I've size hundreds of pounds of marijuana at a time, jailed and testified against the dealers, and growers.

I've seen a lot of lives ruined, changed, and ended over all the drugs, and narcotics out there.

I've heard that ridiculous comparison of "I'd rather be on the road with a pot smoker, than a drunk " remark hundreds of times, and it's as stupid a statement now as it was then.
I don't want to be on the road with ANY JACKASS on any kind of drug or narcotic.

But, I will say this concerning marijuana. 1st if your smoking pot, I'm likely gonna recognize the signals. 2nd, I don't believe it's a "gate way drug" and I've never seen anything that confirms it to be addictive.
3rd I've seen far more lives lost, and ruined by alcohol, and other drugs, and narcotics.

So, while I'm not a pot smoker, and I don't want it in my house, I don't believe it to be any worse than most alcohol, but is likely just as bad for your lungs, as cigarettes.

[ironglow]

  On the lighter side..

   https://www.ranker.com/list/siberian-ukok-princess-mummy-facts/carly-silver?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=historypost&pgid=642850749204637&utm_campaign=siberian-ukok-princess-mummy-facts&fbclid=IwAR08fawRZDVAu5HXuIi0DHCzdgKxHZxnCQexd60DNsHgTTf10dUivZ3iqAc

  Hmmmm...Are they sure she is 2,500 years old?  By the clues, she could be quite contemporary...  

[neckisred]

Yesterday my neighbor said something about pot-heads and I said I wouldn't know since I don't hang around with any. His response was "yes you do, me". That was a surprise. We have grow houses all over around here, that I do know. Just hope I don't meet any on the road.

And there we have it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think most of the resident hypocrites here would keel over if they knew how many people they consider "good people", that partake in the "devil's lettuce". Maybe even those right beside you in the pew.....................

Resident hypocrites here? Do you know that there are hypocrites here, or are you just insinuating?  Do you consider yourself a good person, because you don't smoke weed. Jesus said no one is good, except God alone.  Do you think people that drink alcohol are good people?  I know one thing I'd rather be sitting beside someone in a pew that smokes a little weed than someone that is prideful,  judgemental. or a despicable liar.   

Studies have shown that driving under the influence of alcohol is way worse than driving under the influence of weed. Why is there not the outrage over the availability of alcohol as there is for weed?  You can buy it in grocery stores now.    There are lots more alcoholics than there are addicted pot smokers, but thats okay isn't it? Alcohol good because its legal. Pot bad because its illegal.  BTW, I don't smoke pot. I used to when I was younger for recreation. mostly on weekends. Never used any other drug. nor was I ever addicted to pot. Its pretty much a lie that its addicting, and leads you to use other drugs.

WOW!!!!!!!!! You definitely took that completely the wrong way. I'll try not to be sarcastic this time, and maybe you won't get your shorts in a bunch.

MY point is a LOT of people smoke/eat weed. People you would never suspect. They simply don't share that fact with the rest of the world because of all the hypocrites who think it is bad, AND it is still illegal on a Federal level.

I quoted Gene because I'm sure he had no idea his neighbor smoked pot. Probably even liked the guy up to that point. But does he think differently of him now? You bet he does.

I'll bet you whatever you can afford to lose, had anyone but Matt posted that he smoked weed, the comments in this thread would be much different.

Did Matt's statement change their view? Nope. It's simply his house and the resident hypocrites are afraid to get on their soap box.

Okay sorry if I did take it the wrong way, but there wasn't many ways to see it when you said "Most of the resident hypocrites here"   I took it with "Here",  meaning on this forum, and on this thread.  If you didn't mean on this forum maybe some more words should have been added, so we get your meaning of who the hypocrites are.   Also just wondering how you think the comments would be different if someone else had posted what Matt did. Guess I don't understand that direction either.  Actually Matts post was the only one I agreed with here. That is why I added the comments I did. If someone else had said the same thing I would have replied, and posted  the same.

Oh you understood it exactly how I meant it. This forum and this thread. I agree 100% with your post. Hypocrite may have been a poor word of choice. Maybe opinionated would have been better? Regardless, whether it be pot or any other subject, nothing frosts me more than an "opinionated" person spewing BS on something they know nothing about.......................

[ironglow]

  From Neck is red; my replies in blue

     "
WOW!!!!!!!!! You definitely took that completely the wrong way. I'll try not to be sarcastic this time, and maybe you won't get your shorts in a bunch.  true, sarcasm doesn't aid in understanding.

MY point is a LOT of people smoke/eat weed. People you would never suspect. They simply don't share that fact with the rest of the world because of all the hypocrites who think it is bad, AND it is still illegal on a Federal level.
  Just because many people do something, that doesn't necessarily make it right, does it?
 Many people lie also, but does that make lying legit?
  By what measure are people who disagree, targets to be labelled hypocrites?  Somehow, I have always figured legitimate, polite disagreement to be a mark of civilized interchange..

I quoted Gene because I'm sure he had no idea his neighbor smoked pot. Probably even liked the guy up to that point. But does he think differently of him now? You bet he does.
  I may have neighbors who smoke pot, and I wouldn't get on their case, although I may privately question their wisdom.

I'll bet you whatever you can afford to lose, had anyone but Matt posted that he smoked weed, the comments in this thread would be much different.
  Withhold honest dialog, for some irrational fear?  So far, the first amendment still is in effect... but it IS being negated in some areas of our culture..

Did Matt's statement change their view? Nope. It's simply his house and the resident hypocrites are afraid to get on their soap box."
  Didn't change my view..but as usual, I will try to be considerate and refrain from labels.
  Should there be a heavy price to pay for being open and forthright?
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  So often questions are posed by citing extremes..  For instance, "driving under the influence of alcohol is worse than driving under the influence of weed" !  That may well be true, but how about driving while not under the influence of anything ?
   There may be some pot smokers in my church..there may be some who are hooked on drinking, gambling or porn..but what the Lord asks of us is to continually strive for the higher plane, to break away from any such addictions.
  I don't like my own sins..and am daily asking forgiveness and correction..how is that hypocrisy?

   OK, perhaps there are some here do not believe in God...that's their perogative... take it or leave it..

I rest my case....................................

  ..Me too !...

[Mule 11]

  From Neck is red; my replies in blue

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WOW!!!!!!!!! You definitely took that completely the wrong way. I'll try not to be sarcastic this time, and maybe you won't get your shorts in a bunch.  true, sarcasm doesn't aid in understanding.

MY point is a LOT of people smoke/eat weed. People you would never suspect. They simply don't share that fact with the rest of the world because of all the hypocrites who think it is bad, AND it is still illegal on a Federal level.
  Just because many people do something, that doesn't necessarily make it right, does it?
 Many people lie also, but does that make lying legit?
  By what measure are people who disagree, targets to be labelled hypocrites?  Somehow, I have always figured legitimate, polite disagreement to be a mark of civilized interchange..

I quoted Gene because I'm sure he had no idea his neighbor smoked pot. Probably even liked the guy up to that point. But does he think differently of him now? You bet he does.
  I may have neighbors who smoke pot, and I wouldn't get on their case, although I may privately question their wisdom.

I'll bet you whatever you can afford to lose, had anyone but Matt posted that he smoked weed, the comments in this thread would be much different.
  Withhold honest dialog, for some irrational fear?  So far, the first amendment still is in effect... but it IS being negated in some areas of our culture..

Did Matt's statement change their view? Nope. It's simply his house and the resident hypocrites are afraid to get on their soap box."
  Didn't change my view..but as usual, I will try to be considerate and refrain from labels.
  Should there be a heavy price to pay for being open and forthright?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  So often questions are posed by citing extremes..  For instance, "driving under the influence of alcohol is worse than driving under the influence of weed" !  That may well be true, but how about driving while not under the influence of anything ?
   There may be some pot smokers in my church..there may be some who are hooked on drinking, gambling or porn..but what the Lord asks of us is to continually strive for the higher plane, to break away from any such addictions.
  I don't like my own sins..and am daily asking forgiveness and correction..how is that hypocrisy?

   OK, perhaps there are some here do not believe in God...that's their perogative... take it or leave it..

I rest my case....................................

Dang it, where did I put that soap box?