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« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2022, 03:33:21 AM »
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WOW!!!!!!!!! You definitely took that completely the wrong way. I'll try not to be sarcastic this time, and maybe you won't get your shorts in a bunch.  true, sarcasm doesn't aid in understanding.

MY point is a LOT of people smoke/eat weed. People you would never suspect. They simply don't share that fact with the rest of the world because of all the hypocrites who think it is bad, AND it is still illegal on a Federal level.
  Just because many people do something, that doesn't necessarily make it right, does it?
 Many people lie also, but does that make lying legit?
  By what measure are people who disagree, targets to be labelled hypocrites?  Somehow, I have always figured legitimate, polite disagreement to be a mark of civilized interchange..


I quoted Gene because I'm sure he had no idea his neighbor smoked pot. Probably even liked the guy up to that point. But does he think differently of him now? You bet he does.
  I may have neighbors who smoke pot, and I wouldn't get on their case, although I may privately question their wisdom.

I'll bet you whatever you can afford to lose, had anyone but Matt posted that he smoked weed, the comments in this thread would be much different.
  Withhold honest dialog, for some irrational fear?  So far, the first amendment still is in effect... but it IS being negated in some areas of our culture..

Did Matt's statement change their view? Nope. It's simply his house and the resident hypocrites are afraid to get on their soap box."
  Didn't change my view..but as usual, I will try to be considerate and refrain from labels.
  Should there be a heavy price to pay for being open and forthright?

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  So often questions are posed by citing extremes..  For instance, "driving under the influence of alcohol is worse than driving under the influence of weed" !  That may well be true, but how about driving while not under the influence of anything ?
   There may be some pot smokers in my church..there may be some who are hooked on drinking, gambling or porn..but what the Lord asks of us is to continually strive for the higher plane, to break away from any such addictions.
  I don't like my own sins..and am daily asking forgiveness and correction..how is that hypocrisy?

   OK, perhaps there are some here do not believe in God...that's their perogative... take it or leave it..

I rest my case....................................
Dang it, where did I put that soap box? :)

You looking to preach us a sermon brother, or just looking to loan it out????  ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2022, 12:39:54 PM »
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WOW!!!!!!!!! You definitely took that completely the wrong way. I'll try not to be sarcastic this time, and maybe you won't get your shorts in a bunch.  true, sarcasm doesn't aid in understanding.

MY point is a LOT of people smoke/eat weed. People you would never suspect. They simply don't share that fact with the rest of the world because of all the hypocrites who think it is bad, AND it is still illegal on a Federal level.
  Just because many people do something, that doesn't necessarily make it right, does it?
 Many people lie also, but does that make lying legit?
  By what measure are people who disagree, targets to be labelled hypocrites?  Somehow, I have always figured legitimate, polite disagreement to be a mark of civilized interchange..


I quoted Gene because I'm sure he had no idea his neighbor smoked pot. Probably even liked the guy up to that point. But does he think differently of him now? You bet he does.
  I may have neighbors who smoke pot, and I wouldn't get on their case, although I may privately question their wisdom.

I'll bet you whatever you can afford to lose, had anyone but Matt posted that he smoked weed, the comments in this thread would be much different.
  Withhold honest dialog, for some irrational fear?  So far, the first amendment still is in effect... but it IS being negated in some areas of our culture..

Did Matt's statement change their view? Nope. It's simply his house and the resident hypocrites are afraid to get on their soap box."
  Didn't change my view..but as usual, I will try to be considerate and refrain from labels.
  Should there be a heavy price to pay for being open and forthright?

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  So often questions are posed by citing extremes..  For instance, "driving under the influence of alcohol is worse than driving under the influence of weed" !  That may well be true, but how about driving while not under the influence of anything ?
 
  I don't like my own sins..and am daily asking forgiveness and correction..how is that hypocrisy?

   OK, perhaps there are some here do not believe in God...that's their perogative... take it or leave it..

I rest my case....................................
Dang it, where did I put that soap box? :)

   Can't find your soap box?  Wait until the smoke clears away..it may be right in front of you..

  As I said abouve.... " There may be some pot smokers in my church..there may be some who are hooked on drinking, gambling or porn..but what the Lord asks of us is to continually strive for the higher plane, to break away from any such addictions."

  Let's read it a bit more carefully than you did..  There MAY be people in my church struggling with addictions.  I really don't know, since we don't have detectives investigate each member. 
  Knowing all quite well, I don't expect many..if any, but at least they are trying to get rid of such addictions.
  That is a far cry from joyfully indulging in the vices..for any of those habits..there is a difference between trying to quit, and plunging head first into them.
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« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2022, 01:22:03 PM »

   Can't find your soap box?  Wait until the smoke clears away..it may be right in front of you..

  As I said abouve.... There may be some pot smokers in my church..there may be some who are hooked on drinking, gambling or porn..but what the Lord asks of us is to continually strive for the higher plane, to break away from any such addictions.

  Let's read it a bit more carefully than you did..  There MAY be people in my church struggling with addictions.  I really don't know, since we don't have detectives investigate each member. 
  Knowing all quite well, I don't expect many..if any, but at least they are trying to get rid of such addictions.
  That is a far cry from joyfully indulging in the vices..for any of those habits..there is a difference between trying to quit, and plunging head first into them.

So you think that God gave it to us but then does not want us to partake of it? Kinda silly considering all the benefits don't you think?

Also this whole addict stuff is way off, I would dare say that I personally know at least a few hundred folks who either did or still do partake in one of Gods Gifts that where bestowed upon us. Never have I seen any of them be violent, inconsiderate, hateful or any of the other things that all that UN-NATURAL crap causes. I would also dare say that if you took weed away from any of them they would just carry on life, some would seek other outlets for sure but the average person who smokes weed is: Successful, intelligent, considerate, giving, caring and cautious. Mind you there is exceptions too but they are far less than the propaganda pushes. I have smoked with many Business Owners/Professionals, politicians, Fire Fighters, Police Officers, Preachers as well as  Red Neck Country Boys and  City Slickers from all walks of life. The truth is that well over 50% of the people in this country either do or have smoked weed and have not went on mass killing sprees or any of the crap that is associated with weed from the right of center folks.

It's damn good programming I will admit as many but not all over 60 seem to think it is of the devil.... but the ones who don't follow those leading the flock astray are able to see it for what it is, " a Plant with THOUSANDS of uses"

Oh, feel free to climb up on your soap box if you wish, just please come with real data,  I will gladly entertain a conversation on the matter, it is after all the only way to awaken the masses to the fact that they really know little to nothing about it after all.       

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YOU CANT OVER DOSE ON WEED, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE.  you can get really freaking high though to the point that it would be drunk like.
THERE ARE NO WEED ADDICTS HOTLINES, because weed is not addictive, though some have addictive personality issues it is not the weed.
NO ONE ROBS, RAPES or KILLS FOLKS BECAUSE of or for WEED.
REHABS DO NOT TAKE " WEED ADDICTS".
THE BRAIN AT BIRTH HAS RECEPTORS  FOR WEED CALLED THE ENDOCANNABINOID SYSTEM (kinda means God intended for us to partake)
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« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2022, 02:30:40 PM »
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WOW!!!!!!!!! You definitely took that completely the wrong way. I'll try not to be sarcastic this time, and maybe you won't get your shorts in a bunch.  true, sarcasm doesn't aid in understanding.

MY point is a LOT of people smoke/eat weed. People you would never suspect. They simply don't share that fact with the rest of the world because of all the hypocrites who think it is bad, AND it is still illegal on a Federal level.
  Just because many people do something, that doesn't necessarily make it right, does it?
 Many people lie also, but does that make lying legit?
  By what measure are people who disagree, targets to be labelled hypocrites?  Somehow, I have always figured legitimate, polite disagreement to be a mark of civilized interchange..


I quoted Gene because I'm sure he had no idea his neighbor smoked pot. Probably even liked the guy up to that point. But does he think differently of him now? You bet he does.
  I may have neighbors who smoke pot, and I wouldn't get on their case, although I may privately question their wisdom.

I'll bet you whatever you can afford to lose, had anyone but Matt posted that he smoked weed, the comments in this thread would be much different.
  Withhold honest dialog, for some irrational fear?  So far, the first amendment still is in effect... but it IS being negated in some areas of our culture..

Did Matt's statement change their view? Nope. It's simply his house and the resident hypocrites are afraid to get on their soap box."
  Didn't change my view..but as usual, I will try to be considerate and refrain from labels.
  Should there be a heavy price to pay for being open and forthright?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  So often questions are posed by citing extremes..  For instance, "driving under the influence of alcohol is worse than driving under the influence of weed" !  That may well be true, but how about driving while not under the influence of anything ?
 
  I don't like my own sins..and am daily asking forgiveness and correction..how is that hypocrisy?

   OK, perhaps there are some here do not believe in God...that's their perogative... take it or leave it..

I rest my case....................................
Dang it, where did I put that soap box? :)

   Can't find your soap box?  Wait until the smoke clears away..it may be right in front of you..

  As I said abouve.... " There may be some pot smokers in my church..there may be some who are hooked on drinking, gambling or porn..but what the Lord asks of us is to continually strive for the higher plane, to break away from any such addictions."

  Let's read it a bit more carefully than you did..  There MAY be people in my church struggling with addictions.  I really don't know, since we don't have detectives investigate each member. 
  Knowing all quite well, I don't expect many..if any, but at least they are trying to get rid of such addictions.
  That is a far cry from joyfully indulging in the vices..for any of those habits..there is a difference between trying to quit, and plunging head first into them.
Dang if you aint right again. The smoke cleared and there she was, my soap box, right under yo feet’s...
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« Reply #34 on: April 02, 2022, 03:44:40 AM »
Same results. Alcohol and Marijuana prohibition.

Drunk guys tend to get loud and look for fights. Stoned guys chill out and look for pizza.

IIRC. We’ve had two past Presidents admit to smoking weed though one said he didn’t inhale.
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« Reply #35 on: April 04, 2022, 03:12:08 AM »
The numbers are out on the first day's sale of legal MJ in NM. It brought in over 2 million dollars. The little Santa Fe troll that pushed for this should be happy.

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« Reply #36 on: April 04, 2022, 10:14:13 AM »
Same results. Alcohol and Marijuana prohibition.

Drunk guys tend to get loud and look for fights. Stoned guys chill out and look for pizza.

IIRC. We’ve had two past Presidents admit to smoking weed though one said he didn’t inhale.
He also said “I did not have sex with that woman” musta been talking about his wife. Can’t blame him...

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« Reply #37 on: April 04, 2022, 10:51:37 AM »
I don’t use it and haven't going on over 40 years. But i see nothing wrong with it.  I never saw anyone start a bar fight on weed.
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« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2022, 12:11:37 PM »
I don’t use it and haven't going on over 40 years. But i see nothing wrong with it.  I never saw anyone start a bar fight on weed.
I’ve seen some pretty good unprofessional fights :) ... and some really good paid fights errr professional fights. I must say, I like combat sports.

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« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2022, 03:07:17 PM »
  weed has been around a long time  , despite efforts to eradicate it .  I know you could payoff the National debt with all the dollars wasted trying to  win a losing battle .
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« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2022, 03:16:59 PM »
  weed has been around a long time  , despite efforts to eradicate it .  I know you could payoff the National debt with all the dollars wasted trying to  win a losing battle .

Yes, but they would have just wasted it on a tax cut for the rich.

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« Reply #41 on: April 04, 2022, 05:30:31 PM »
  weed has been around a long time  , despite efforts to eradicate it .  I know you could payoff the National debt with all the dollars wasted trying to  win a losing battle .

Yes, but they would have just wasted it on a tax cut for the rich.

Sorry for the double post, lost power for a couple of hours there and got confused.

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« Reply #42 on: April 04, 2022, 11:43:32 PM »
you didnt know me when i was young ;)
I don’t use it and haven't going on over 40 years. But i see nothing wrong with it.  I never saw anyone start a bar fight on weed.
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« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2022, 05:25:44 AM »
  weed has been around a long time  , despite efforts to eradicate it .  I know you could payoff the National debt with all the dollars wasted trying to  win a losing battle .

Yes, but they would have just wasted it on a tax cut for the rich.

Sorry for the double post, lost power for a couple of hours there and got confused.
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« Reply #44 on: April 06, 2022, 09:37:07 AM »

Oh, feel free to climb up on your soap box if you wish, just please come with real data,  I will gladly entertain a conversation on the matter, it is after all the only way to awaken the masses to the fact that they really know little to nothing about it after all.       
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Nothing kills a thread faster than requesting real data. Nice goin Matt.............. ;D ;D ;D ;D

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« Reply #45 on: April 06, 2022, 10:50:35 AM »

Oh, feel free to climb up on your soap box if you wish, just please come with real data,  I will gladly entertain a conversation on the matter, it is after all the only way to awaken the masses to the fact that they really know little to nothing about it after all.       
 

Nothing kills a thread faster than requesting real data. Nice goin Matt.............. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Weed has become more potent since the sixties mostly? Therefore one of the few things ya get more for your dollar? Just entertaining this... Also, if I find out I’m dying from some ? I’ll be getting myself a bag and won’t care what anyone thinks about it.
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« Reply #46 on: April 06, 2022, 01:08:04 PM »

Oh, feel free to climb up on your soap box if you wish, just please come with real data,  I will gladly entertain a conversation on the matter, it is after all the only way to awaken the masses to the fact that they really know little to nothing about it after all.       
 

Nothing kills a thread faster than requesting real data. Nice goin Matt.............. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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  OK..I had backed out of tis whirling dervish of drug debating,.  I figured some have their habits, love them and would never concede that illicit use of such a drug is even questionable.

  Since the lefties in Colorado were early into the competitive drug sales..they are a convenient test bed..

  Biutthen you come up with ."where's the data?"..so I will present some, then leave this thread again..knowing you will either fid a way to  dismiss the data, or simply ignore it.. so here goes:

  https://www.wrtv.com/news/working-for-you/marijuana-use-kills-indiana-teen-mother-speaks-out

   https://www.madd.org/hawaii/wp-content/uploads/sites/15/2019/02/ImpactUpdate_ColoradoLeagaliztionMarijuana_10.18.pdf

  From the article: " Section I: Traffic Fatalities & Impaired Driving
 Since recreational marijuana was legalized, marijuana related traffic deaths
increased 151 percent while all Colorado traffic deaths increased 35 percent
 Since recreational marijuana was legalized, traffic deaths involving drivers who
tested positive for marijuana more than doubled from 55 in 2013 to 138 people
killed in 2017.
o This equates to one person killed every 2 ½ days compared to one person
killed every 6 ½ days.
 The percentage of all Colorado traffic deaths that were marijuana related
increased from 11.43 percent in 2013 to 21.3 percent in 2017"

  https://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/25/colorado-marijuana-traffic-fatalities/

  From the article:
   "
The number of drivers involved in fatal crashes in Colorado who tested positive for marijuana has risen sharply each year since 2013, more than doubling in that time, federal and state data show. A Denver Post analysis of the data and coroner reports provides the most comprehensive look yet into whether roads in the state have become more dangerous since the drug’s legalization.

Increasingly potent levels of marijuana were found in positive-testing drivers who died in crashes in Front Range counties, according to coroner data since 2013 compiled by The Denver Post. Nearly a dozen in 2016 had levels five times the amount allowed by law, and one was at 22 times the limit. Levels were not as elevated in earlier years."

  https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2015/03/third-death-in-colorado-linked-to-edible-marijuana/

   Bad enough for this dude, who is old enough to know better..but how about the little kids who find Dad's stash of 'cookies' ?

  Now, 40-80 extra highway deaths per year my not mean much to you..but to the families who have lost a father, mother, sister, brother or baby to a smoker..it is a far different story.
   
  There is much, much more data out there, but knowing in advance you would dismiss 32 tons of data..I'll leave you guys to congratulate each other..



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« Reply #47 on: April 06, 2022, 01:20:25 PM »
Went into one today not because i am not a customer, but only out of curiosity. Very nice set up, kind people and informative.
Even variating from the hard to mild. Matt, you keep doing what you want to do.  40 years ago i wished it was made legal.
And now here it is, I'm afraid to try it after this long.  But now, i can go into a store and buy it.
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« Reply #48 on: April 06, 2022, 01:23:38 PM »
NO!!!! I have not tried it, ive got medical situations.
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« Reply #49 on: April 06, 2022, 06:35:34 PM »

Oh, feel free to climb up on your soap box if you wish, just please come with real data,  I will gladly entertain a conversation on the matter, it is after all the only way to awaken the masses to the fact that they really know little to nothing about it after all.       
 

Nothing kills a thread faster than requesting real data. Nice goin Matt.............. ;D ;D ;D ;D

  OK..I had backed out of tis whirling dervish of drug debating,.  I figured some have their habits, love them and would never concede that illicit use of such a drug is even questionable.

  Since the lefties in Colorado were early into the competitive drug sales..they are a convenient test bed..

  Biutthen you come up with ."where's the data?"..so I will present some, then leave this thread again..knowing you will either fid a way to  dismiss the data, or simply ignore it.. so here goes:

  https://www.wrtv.com/news/working-for-you/marijuana-use-kills-indiana-teen-mother-speaks-out

   https://www.madd.org/hawaii/wp-content/uploads/sites/15/2019/02/ImpactUpdate_ColoradoLeagaliztionMarijuana_10.18.pdf

  From the article: " Section I: Traffic Fatalities & Impaired Driving
 Since recreational marijuana was legalized, marijuana related traffic deaths
increased 151 percent while all Colorado traffic deaths increased 35 percent
 Since recreational marijuana was legalized, traffic deaths involving drivers who
tested positive for marijuana more than doubled from 55 in 2013 to 138 people
killed in 2017.
o This equates to one person killed every 2 ½ days compared to one person
killed every 6 ½ days.
 The percentage of all Colorado traffic deaths that were marijuana related
increased from 11.43 percent in 2013 to 21.3 percent in 2017"

  https://www.denverpost.com/2017/08/25/colorado-marijuana-traffic-fatalities/

  From the article:
   "
The number of drivers involved in fatal crashes in Colorado who tested positive for marijuana has risen sharply each year since 2013, more than doubling in that time, federal and state data show. A Denver Post analysis of the data and coroner reports provides the most comprehensive look yet into whether roads in the state have become more dangerous since the drug’s legalization.

Increasingly potent levels of marijuana were found in positive-testing drivers who died in crashes in Front Range counties, according to coroner data since 2013 compiled by The Denver Post. Nearly a dozen in 2016 had levels five times the amount allowed by law, and one was at 22 times the limit. Levels were not as elevated in earlier years."

  https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2015/03/third-death-in-colorado-linked-to-edible-marijuana/

   Bad enough for this dude, who is old enough to know better..but how about the little kids who find Dad's stash of 'cookies' ?

  Now, 40-80 extra highway deaths per year my not mean much to you..but to the families who have lost a father, mother, sister, brother or baby to a smoker..it is a far different story.
   
  There is much, much more data out there, but knowing in advance you would dismiss 32 tons of data..I'll leave you guys to congratulate each other..

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https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/327126
from the article: Has pot killed anyone?

A 2014 study in Forensic Science International reported two cases of sudden death that doctors linked to health complications possibly worsened by marijuana use. The report indicated that before these deaths, the researchers were not aware of any other deaths related to marijuana use alone.

It is important to note that only after excluding all other causes of death did the report assume the young men experienced fatal cardiovascular events brought on by cannabis. The report also concludes that doctors cannot rule out the possibility that pre-existing cardiovascular factors played a role in the deaths.

In 2018, a teenager died of dehydration due to cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome (CHS). CHS is a condition that can occur in regular cannabis smokers and causes nausea, vomiting, and abdominal pain. You can read their story here.

Despite these incidents, compared to the deaths caused by other drugs, such as alcohol and tobacco, many people consider marijuana to be relatively safe.

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https://www.healthline.com/health-news/can-marijuana-kill-you

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Should Recreational Marijuana Be Legal?
https://marijuana.procon.org/

More than half of US adults, over 128 million people, have tried marijuana, despite it being an illegal drug under federal law. Nearly 600,000 Americans are arrested for marijuana possession annually – more than one person per minute. Public support for legalizing marijuana went from 12% in 1969 to 66% today. Recreational marijuana, also known as adult-use marijuana, was first legalized in Colorado and Washington in 2012.

Proponents of legalizing recreational marijuana say it will add billions to the economy, create hundreds of thousands of jobs, free up scarce police resources, and stop the huge racial disparities in marijuana enforcement. They contend that regulating marijuana will lower street crime, take business away from the drug cartels, and make marijuana use safer through required testing, labeling, and child-proof packaging. They say marijuana is less harmful than alcohol, and that adults should have a right to use it if they wish.

Opponents of legalizing recreational marijuana say it will increase teen use and lead to more medical emergencies including traffic deaths from driving while high. They contend that revenue from legalization falls far short of the costs in increased hospital visits, addiction treatment, environmental damage, crime, workplace accidents, and lost productivity. They say that marijuana use harms the user physically and mentally, and that its use should be strongly discouraged, not legalized.

I will collect real data from the states that have made it legal and post them here in a few days when I have a chance to compile it all.
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Re: Weed shops.
« Reply #50 on: April 06, 2022, 10:08:36 PM »
one thing some of us old timers dont take into account is potency. I remember back in the early 70s that if you scored a bag of mexican weed you had to about smoke two joints to catch a buzz. Now two hits off some of this new stuff and id be sitting in a chair drooling  with a bag of doritos. About hate to admit this but my wifes older son lives in CA and makes his living growing and selling pot. Hes actually a good kid and votes republican and loves guns. But he also loves his weed. He came here last summer and talked me into smoking some. It got so high i was sick to my stomach off just 4 hits of some of his weed. I was more f'd up then i would have been after a half a bottle of Jim Beam. Did i drive anywhere? Hell no. but i wouldnt drinking either. That said if it was back in my 20s again most likely id have been heading to the bar or even more likely would have took those 4 hits out the back door of the local bar. If your doing some of that stuff that has the medical benifits without the high then i dont have a single argument against it. If your adult enough not to drive after getting blasted i have no argument. But i see what kind of trash goes in and out of the pot stores around here. when the welfare checks arrive every month its standing room only in those stores. If you want to argue that people are more like to drive drunk then stoned it will just get a chuckle out of me.  it sure didnt slow me or my friends down. I remember smoking a joint between heats of a motocross or snowmobile race. Sure didnt slow me down. Other then maybe id have a few more trophies if i wouldnt have because it took away from my consentration.. Another MAJOR health consern that would apply to at least me is if i smoked today id probably be a 100lbs heavier because this guy can consume some junk food when hes stoned!!
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Re: Weed shops.
« Reply #51 on: April 07, 2022, 09:00:00 AM »
one thing some of us old timers dont take into account is potency. I remember back in the early 70s that if you scored a bag of mexican weed you had to about smoke two joints to catch a buzz. Now two hits off some of this new stuff and id be sitting in a chair drooling  with a bag of doritos. About hate to admit this but my wifes older son lives in CA and makes his living growing and selling pot. Hes actually a good kid and votes republican and loves guns. But he also loves his weed. He came here last summer and talked me into smoking some. It got so high i was sick to my stomach off just 4 hits of some of his weed. I was more f'd up then i would have been after a half a bottle of Jim Beam. Did i drive anywhere? Hell no. but i wouldnt drinking either. That said if it was back in my 20s again most likely id have been heading to the bar or even more likely would have took those 4 hits out the back door of the local bar. If your doing some of that stuff that has the medical benifits without the high then i dont have a single argument against it. If your adult enough not to drive after getting blasted i have no argument. But i see what kind of trash goes in and out of the pot stores around here. when the welfare checks arrive every month its standing room only in those stores. If you want to argue that people are more like to drive drunk then stoned it will just get a chuckle out of me.  it sure didnt slow me or my friends down. I remember smoking a joint between heats of a motocross or snowmobile race. Sure didnt slow me down. Other then maybe id have a few more trophies if i wouldnt have because it took away from my consentration.. Another MAJOR health consern that would apply to at least me is if i smoked today id probably be a 100lbs heavier because this guy can consume some junk food when hes stoned!!

 Check out this article: https://organicfloweroflife.com/how-cannabis-potency-has-changed-over-time/
It has some insight on that subject.
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Re: Weed shops.
« Reply #52 on: April 07, 2022, 02:08:20 PM »
OK, made the statement in another post that in my "opinion" marijuana was no more dangerous than some forms of alcohol, but likely was as bad for your health as smoking.

But to say that marijuana smokers aren't as likely to kill someone isn't correct.  I worked narcotics and violent crime with narcotics being my main emphasis.
I've seen LOTS of beatings, stabbings, shootings, and killings over marijuana.

Drugs, and narcotics, in the end,  are mind altering, just like alcohol, and yes, I've seen lots of pot smokers lead successful lives as far as everyday life, but I've also seen functioning drunks do the same thing.

Also, people using these drugs, and narcotics as "recreational" apparently have trouble with reality, thinking they have a better time mentally altered.
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« Reply #53 on: April 07, 2022, 02:35:32 PM »
And the beatings, stabbings, shootings and killings over marijuana were due to its monetary value and not over someone getting a buzz...

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« Reply #54 on: April 07, 2022, 02:45:39 PM »
And the beatings, stabbings, shootings and killings over marijuana were due to its monetary value and not over someone getting a buzz...

You said that, I didn't. You are clueless as to what my job entailed. Why don't you stick with what you're good at?
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Re: Weed shops.
« Reply #55 on: April 07, 2022, 02:49:42 PM »
Eat shat

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Re: Weed shops.
« Reply #56 on: April 07, 2022, 03:07:37 PM »
Eat shat

That's what you're good at. Yet you're still here. Now back to ignoring you. ;)
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Re: Weed shops.
« Reply #57 on: April 07, 2022, 03:14:35 PM »
Eat shat

That's what you're good at. Yet you're still here. Now back to ignoring you. ;)
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Re: Weed shops.
« Reply #58 on: April 07, 2022, 09:05:06 PM »
yup theres probably been more criminal behavior and shootings because of pot then any other drug. I suffer every day because of drug cartels and know one buddy who doesnt suffer. hes dead. Its a falicy that legalizing it slows down the illegal trade. If anything the cartels sell even more today because more people are smoking it and want it as cheap as possible.
OK, made the statement in another post that in my "opinion" marijuana was no more dangerous than some forms of alcohol, but likely was as bad for your health as smoking.

But to say that marijuana smokers aren't as likely to kill someone isn't correct.  I worked narcotics and violent crime with narcotics being my main emphasis.
I've seen LOTS of beatings, stabbings, shootings, and killings over marijuana.

Drugs, and narcotics, in the end,  are mind altering, just like alcohol, and yes, I've seen lots of pot smokers lead successful lives as far as everyday life, but I've also seen functioning drunks do the same thing.

Also, people using these drugs, and narcotics as "recreational" apparently have trouble with reality, thinking they have a better time mentally altered.
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Re: Weed shops.
« Reply #59 on: April 07, 2022, 09:30:10 PM »
Read it matt and had to chuckle. Had a buddy a few years back that grew the stuff. He always gave me some because he thought he was doing me a favor and i didnt want to hurt his feelings so i took it and gave it away to others. My mother suffered from chronic pain for half her life. She knew I used to smoke it regularly and asked me if i thought it would help her pain. I told her in my experience it didnt help my pain much. More just put me in a chair with a bag of doritos. She asked me if i could get some for her to try but she didnt want to smoke it. So i hit the buddy up. He warned me it was a potent batch. so i maked a small pan of brownies with ALOT in it. I gave 2 to the guy that gave me the pot. Him and his wife stopped by on his harley. They ate them and went for a short ride and ended up  at a bar/resterant. He told me the next day he was so stoned he had to get his son to pick him up. So i gave two to ma. I told her to eat half of one because they were strong. Well she ate both of them. Called me up and told me to come over to her house because she was overdosing. I laughed my ass off. She was actually crying asking me how she could get it out of her system. I told her the only way was time. She was panicking. The whole family still laughs about pot head ma and her episode.
one thing some of us old timers dont take into account is potency. I remember back in the early 70s that if you scored a bag of mexican weed you had to about smoke two joints to catch a buzz. Now two hits off some of this new stuff and id be sitting in a chair drooling  with a bag of doritos. About hate to admit this but my wifes older son lives in CA and makes his living growing and selling pot. Hes actually a good kid and votes republican and loves guns. But he also loves his weed. He came here last summer and talked me into smoking some. It got so high i was sick to my stomach off just 4 hits of some of his weed. I was more f'd up then i would have been after a half a bottle of Jim Beam. Did i drive anywhere? Hell no. but i wouldnt drinking either. That said if it was back in my 20s again most likely id have been heading to the bar or even more likely would have took those 4 hits out the back door of the local bar. If your doing some of that stuff that has the medical benifits without the high then i dont have a single argument against it. If your adult enough not to drive after getting blasted i have no argument. But i see what kind of trash goes in and out of the pot stores around here. when the welfare checks arrive every month its standing room only in those stores. If you want to argue that people are more like to drive drunk then stoned it will just get a chuckle out of me.  it sure didnt slow me or my friends down. I remember smoking a joint between heats of a motocross or snowmobile race. Sure didnt slow me down. Other then maybe id have a few more trophies if i wouldnt have because it took away from my consentration.. Another MAJOR health consern that would apply to at least me is if i smoked today id probably be a 100lbs heavier because this guy can consume some junk food when hes stoned!!

 Check out this article: https://organicfloweroflife.com/how-cannabis-potency-has-changed-over-time/
It has some insight on that subject.
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