I think I mentioned it in another thread, but I use the 20 rounders a lot. They're perfect for coyote hunting. I would like to try my hand at IPSC/3 gun style shooting, sometime. It would definitely be a change from backyard plinking and harassing varmints. I find it strange that testosterone and/or machismo are so problematic in shooting sports - especially when the scores are posted. I think my biggest problem with learning something new is trying to un-learn all the bad habits I've already picked up. Unfortunately, I don't know of any shooting ranges nearby that offer instruction. Whats worse is, if Illinois politicians get their way, they'll regulate shooting ranges out of business. They even have their own Feinstein style AWB ready to roll out, just in case Obama doesn't sign one they like. I guess we'll see how things shake out.