Hit by the hurricane? Need FEMA help? Don't count on Romney.....

[Bob Riebe]

Just keep in mind that the only way the government can give anything to anyone is to take it away from someone else.


So we argue who would and who would not take wealth from the poor and middle class in the middle of America and give it to the rich folks living on the coast.

Private individuals and companies make profits on the backs of the poor and the middle class. Unregulated capitalism results in a few getting really rich, while the nation suffers.  But that is the miracle of government when it acts as a representative of the people.  The people aren't billionaires, they experience hurricanes and deserve relief to pick up the nation when it is down.  Private companies don't do that.  That is the job of government to oversea a national economy.  Business must cooperate with the national objectives or they can get out.

It says this in the Constitution where?

No generalities, specifics.


The Federal, and State, Governments and Government employees live of the money of poor and middle class citizens.
Most are very wealthy while the nation and states suffer.
That is the fecal debris that governments are.
Politicians are millionaires who tell citizens they must obey subjective demands or they can get out.

[Hairy Chest]

Just keep in mind that the only way the government can give anything to anyone is to take it away from someone else.


So we argue who would and who would not take wealth from the poor and middle class in the middle of America and give it to the rich folks living on the coast.

Private individuals and companies make profits on the backs of the poor and the middle class. Unregulated capitalism results in a few getting really rich, while the nation suffers.  But that is the miracle of government when it acts as a representative of the people.  The people aren't billionaires, they experience hurricanes and deserve relief to pick up the nation when it is down.  Private companies don't do that.  That is the job of government to oversea a national economy.  Business must cooperate with the national objectives or they can get out.

It says this in the Constitution where?

No generalities, specifics.


The Federal, and State, Governments and Government employees live of the money of poor and middle class citizens.
Most are very wealthy while the nation and states suffer.
That is the fecal debris that governments are.
Politicians are millionaires who tell citizens they must obey subjective demands or they can get out.

Politicians can't be millionaires.  Otherwise, they can't be bought.     Who buys them?  They are supposed to represent the people, but instead they are manipulated to act for big money and special interests.  So what is wrong with this type of government?  It needs to be lead by patriotic men and that perhaps is someone who will come straight from the military.  That would be a good first step.  He is a single man.  He says his spouse is his nation.  Now we tell exactly what we want and he will do it.

[hunt-m-up]

Money Boo Boo would have the states and big money sell all the victims rowboats and hammers! The right just needs to admit it--- they don't HAVE anybody qualified to be President.

Compared to a guy who has 4 years of on-the-job-training and is still incompetant!? Don't start comparing resumes, YOUR GUY LOSES.

[justme]

So is this the time we mark for the excuses to start?

[Gary G]

Just keep in mind that the only way the government can give anything to anyone is to take it away from someone else.


So we argue who would and who would not take wealth from the poor and middle class in the middle of America and give it to the rich folks living on the coast.

Private individuals and companies make profits on the backs of the poor and the middle class. Unregulated capitalism results in a few getting really rich, while the nation suffers.  But that is the miracle of government when it acts as a representative of the people.  The people aren't billionaires, they experience hurricanes and deserve relief to pick up the nation when it is down.  Private companies don't do that.  That is the job of government to oversea a national economy.  Business must cooperate with the national objectives or they can get out.

Rich people get rich by producing things that other people want. To get there they must hire many people. No one is forced to take that job. They do so because they believe that they will be better off than before. Thus many people are helped along the way and this is the reason that we have a middle class today. Think of Steve Jobs in his basement. How many millions did he help by expanding out of that basement. Hamper the wealthy and the poor will increase.


Galveston recovered just fine without any Federal help.


To those that believe Sandy will be a stimulus, google Bastiat's Broken Window Fallacy. Destruction is just what it is, wealth forever lost.

[Bugflipper]

Romney doesn’t want to talk about preparing for or responding to Sandy   
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/30/fema-funding-to-lose-nearly-900m_n_2044105.html
What do you say if you’re Mitt Romney? What do you say today, one week until the most important Election Day of your life, with the East Coast — including swing states — still trying to figure out what the hell hit it last night?
Mitt Romney is on record suggesting that emergency management services shouldn’t be the province of the president. In fact, he thinks they should fall to private companies, which can then make a little money off the deal.
Asked about the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) this morning, Romney didn’t want to answer the question. Five times, he didn’t.
Because what’s he going to say? His campaign hedges on the issue, but he doesn’t want to deal with this, not now. He doesn’t want to have to explain his complicated feelings on government and climate change. His base wants him to destroy the former and deny the latter. So, what? Now, after 23 months of campaigning, he’s going to say: Yes, the government has a role here?
What Romney is doing is campaigning. No, wait, sorry. He’s holding “relief events,” events in Ohio gathering canned goods to send to the East Coast. Here’s one scene from this apolitical act of magnanimity:
Somehow, I suspect that those cans aren’t going to make their way to any blue states.
Hurricane Sandy exposes the flaw in campaigning for president as an anti-government activist. Romney insists that government can’t create jobs, but that he should be elected to create jobs. He argues that FEMA should be slashed, but has no solution to draining flooded East River tunnels besides collecting dusty boxes of pasta.
A president should be able to answer these two questions: How do we both prevent and prepare for future megastorms, and how do we respond to the disastrous aftermath? For me, the answers come easily. Romney’s answers don’t come at all.
 

http://grist.org/news/romney-doesnt-want-to-talk-about-preparing-for-or-responding-to-sandy/

They do not have to worry about Romney but they should be real afraid of what Obama has caused.
 

bold, underline italics are mine for emphasis.
jimmy carter was an incompetant, bumbling, boob.
obama is a cold,  caculating, arrogant, decietful, power hungry, insecure, wannabe dictator who has delibertly set out to bring this nation to it's knees by way of economical disaster...mostly thru excessive taxation. he knows the constituion has granted congress the power to levy taxes...but did NOT limit that power. his background shows his true intent and nature: associated with the extreme leftist, marxist, communists. both he and his wife, were educated at the best american schools ON THE PUBLIC DIME...neither EVER held a private sector job. (obama himself, was recognized a a dope-smoking "got by by the skin of his teeth" type.
are we supposed to believe he suddenly has become this kind, benovelent leader, who has care and compassion for all?
NOT likely...

Bush ran on a humble foreign policy.  Look what he did.  He's a war criminal.  In Iraq someday they're going to have a Holocaust memorial for the Iraqi's that were murdered under his watch.  Jimmy Carter is a man of peace.  He did the gutsy move and told the truth in his book about Apartheid Israel.  Obama's a dictator?  Yeah, we need a dictator to save us from the Jewish Marxists running our foreign policy.  With him there is hope.  With the Bain Capital executive, we already know what he'll do and it won't be good.

Hairy, don't forget about Khmer Rouge on Carter's watch. The peaceful fellow sat by and let many be slaughtered. Opinions vary on the number of murdered, but somewhere between 1 and 2 million seems to be the consensus.

[Hairy Chest]

Romney doesn’t want to talk about preparing for or responding to Sandy   
 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/30/fema-funding-to-lose-nearly-900m_n_2044105.html
What do you say if you’re Mitt Romney? What do you say today, one week until the most important Election Day of your life, with the East Coast — including swing states — still trying to figure out what the hell hit it last night?
Mitt Romney is on record suggesting that emergency management services shouldn’t be the province of the president. In fact, he thinks they should fall to private companies, which can then make a little money off the deal.
Asked about the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) this morning, Romney didn’t want to answer the question. Five times, he didn’t.
Because what’s he going to say? His campaign hedges on the issue, but he doesn’t want to deal with this, not now. He doesn’t want to have to explain his complicated feelings on government and climate change. His base wants him to destroy the former and deny the latter. So, what? Now, after 23 months of campaigning, he’s going to say: Yes, the government has a role here?
What Romney is doing is campaigning. No, wait, sorry. He’s holding “relief events,” events in Ohio gathering canned goods to send to the East Coast. Here’s one scene from this apolitical act of magnanimity:
Somehow, I suspect that those cans aren’t going to make their way to any blue states.
Hurricane Sandy exposes the flaw in campaigning for president as an anti-government activist. Romney insists that government can’t create jobs, but that he should be elected to create jobs. He argues that FEMA should be slashed, but has no solution to draining flooded East River tunnels besides collecting dusty boxes of pasta.
A president should be able to answer these two questions: How do we both prevent and prepare for future megastorms, and how do we respond to the disastrous aftermath? For me, the answers come easily. Romney’s answers don’t come at all.
 

http://grist.org/news/romney-doesnt-want-to-talk-about-preparing-for-or-responding-to-sandy/

They do not have to worry about Romney but they should be real afraid of what Obama has caused.
 

bold, underline italics are mine for emphasis.
jimmy carter was an incompetant, bumbling, boob.
obama is a cold,  caculating, arrogant, decietful, power hungry, insecure, wannabe dictator who has delibertly set out to bring this nation to it's knees by way of economical disaster...mostly thru excessive taxation. he knows the constituion has granted congress the power to levy taxes...but did NOT limit that power. his background shows his true intent and nature: associated with the extreme leftist, marxist, communists. both he and his wife, were educated at the best american schools ON THE PUBLIC DIME...neither EVER held a private sector job. (obama himself, was recognized a a dope-smoking "got by by the skin of his teeth" type.
are we supposed to believe he suddenly has become this kind, benovelent leader, who has care and compassion for all?
NOT likely...

Bush ran on a humble foreign policy.  Look what he did.  He's a war criminal.  In Iraq someday they're going to have a Holocaust memorial for the Iraqi's that were murdered under his watch.  Jimmy Carter is a man of peace.  He did the gutsy move and told the truth in his book about Apartheid Israel.  Obama's a dictator?  Yeah, we need a dictator to save us from the Jewish Marxists running our foreign policy.  With him there is hope.  With the Bain Capital executive, we already know what he'll do and it won't be good.

Hairy, don't forget about Khmer Rouge on Carter's watch. The peaceful fellow sat by and let many be slaughtered. Opinions vary on the number of murdered, but somewhere between 1 and 2 million seems to be the consensus.

You see, there's something we don't hear much about.  Thanks for sharing.   

[Dixie Dude]

Well, if they need help, can't help unless your are union.  So the knife cuts both ways.  Also, I think Romney wants the emergency management to be under the already well trained national guard, who has generators, water trucks, MRE's, and construction equipment.  Why not use what you have and get rid of FEMA.  That is what the south once did without FEMA during hurricanes, long before FEMA.  We used our national guard. 

[Hairy Chest]

Sandy was sadly a good lesson on why we need government.  Any good program the American people can count on, like Medicare, SS or disaster relief is only there because the socialists pushed for it.  You need some socialism!  Socialism isn't communism.  Remember, the Tory party has argued decades over which type of conservatism to practice.  The traditional Tory party believed in socialism for the people.  It was the neo-Tory party, the Thatcher crowd, that was into cutting government.  Big cuts to government and massive military spending.  Sound familiar?  Now these government cutters are into nation building and wars.  Those cost money too.  I'd like to see the money not spent on the wars or military, but invested in America. 

[Swampman]

FEMA should be disbanded.

[Bob Riebe]

Sandy was sadly a good lesson on why we need government.  Any good program the American people can count on, like Medicare, SS or disaster relief is only there because the socialists pushed for it.  You need some socialism!  Socialism isn't communism.  Remember, the Tory party has argued decades over which type of conservatism to practice.  The traditional Tory party believed in socialism for the people.  It was the neo-Tory party, the Thatcher crowd, that was into cutting government.  Big cuts to government and massive military spending.  Sound familiar?  Now these government cutters are into nation building and wars.  Those cost money too.  I'd like to see the money not spent on the wars or military, but invested in America.

Yeah to bust the Unions.
Greedy Union would not let non-Union workers in.

The Union likes to quote a well known actor- "Let them die." and they are not even Klingons.

[ChungDoQuan]

I figure FEMA is a GOOD use of tax dollars--- much better than trying to give democracy to a bunch of countries who are not clear on the concept. Rmoney wants to give it to the states--- like a state that has just suffered such a disaster is even capable of responding! Does anyone seriously think that upstate New York or upstate New Jersey would have the disaster areas on the coast to where they are now, in as short a time? It just would not happen. And, if they had to wait for private contractors? I can see it now, "Sure, we'll send help, just as soon as we're done with our present contracts, and oh yes, it will cost LOTS more than what you're willing to pay!" 

[Hairy Chest]

Sandy was sadly a good lesson on why we need government.  Any good program the American people can count on, like Medicare, SS or disaster relief is only there because the socialists pushed for it.  You need some socialism!  Socialism isn't communism.  Remember, the Tory party has argued decades over which type of conservatism to practice.  The traditional Tory party believed in socialism for the people.  It was the neo-Tory party, the Thatcher crowd, that was into cutting government.  Big cuts to government and massive military spending.  Sound familiar?  Now these government cutters are into nation building and wars.  Those cost money too.  I'd like to see the money not spent on the wars or military, but invested in America.

Yeah to bust the Unions.
Greedy Union would not let non-Union workers in.

The Union likes to quote a well known actor- "Let them die." and they are not even Klingons.

Greedy unions and greedy companies.  Do you notice their motto always has the word, "International?"  The solution to the problem is not get rid of the unions or the companies.  The solution is to remove the 'Inter' out of the word and leave the 'National' part.  Anything international has Marxist roots and will fail a nation and it's people.  Like Free Trade.  It's International, Global, etc.  The Marxist method is to keep investing literally in Communist China and some International Marxist businessman makes a profit.  American consumers got a little lower price, but what happened to the host nation and people?  They got the blood sucked out of them by the Internationalist Marxist parasite. 

[Gary G]

Ron Paul on FEMA:


http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2012/11/ron-paul-ytells-john-stossel-fema.html

[greenmtnboy]

WHAT A BUNCH OF LIES...  The Workers were all welcomed .  From what I saw SOME of the lazy Bast#$@%  only came to do what they were sent to do and nothing else.  If you couldnt string lines or set poles due to the mess they set on there azz and watch or go home and bitch . Most were great .
  JUST LIKE MOST SOUTHERNERS ON HERE ITS ALL ME ME ME .
 Lets not talk about Katrina and New Orleans tho.  Some there are still Raping the system, but thats ok because we owe you.

[dwalk]

mitt romney is NOT president...YET
as such, he has no authority to do anything other that what he did...voluntarily sent supplies from his own campaign resources.
the only governmental aggency that has proved affective and efficient, thru the years, has been the military.
obama should order the military to airlift and distrubute, supplies...period. there are NUMEROUS lz's througout the affected area(s) for transports and helos; c-130 to an air field...helos to small distrubution points...trucks from there...

[dwalk]

Money Boo Boo would have the states and big money sell all the victims rowboats and hammers! The right just needs to admit it--- they don't HAVE anybody qualified to be President.

do you?

[Bob Riebe]

  Mitt and GOP represent Guns and BHO and Dems represent butter. You can vote for Guns and the mililtary state, or Butter for people.
..TM7

ROFL-- Obama represents a Chicago Typewriter only he forgot to load it, so he stands there reading a teleprompter that says-- bangity, bangity, bangity.

[greenmtnboy]

I believe I saw Romney helping load a truck with supplies that were headed to the area.  Cant say I saw Obummer do anything but fly over and say What a Mess .   Made for a great photo op just before elections at our cost didnt it

[srussell]

FEMA is so efficient that they still have a refrigerated warehouse full of ice left over from the Florida hurricanes.  It arrived late, after the power was restored, and was not needed. Now out of date, so it cannot be given away or sold. Meanwhile us taxpayers are paying the monthly storage bill waiting on FEMA to decide what to do,,,years later.

how does ice get out dated

[greenmtnboy]

His team didnt buy a thing being loaded that day and they knew where it was headed before before he started helping out.
  What did Obamas Heli ride over the area amount to?  Obama, Christy and a load or reporters and Cameras.  Yeah  That was a big help wasnt it.   I doubt Obama even knows how to operate a gas pump.

[Empty Quiver]

If we agree that these disasters demand some sort of response, that there needs to be a rapid response team to be able to run the program, does it matter if it is private or government run?
 
Lets say the response to this disaster cost a million man hours, 10,000 guys putting in 2 and a half 40hr weeks. Cause everyone wants this job done before the winds quit blowing. What are those 10,000 going to do the other 49 weeks of the year? Well if they work for Uncle Sam they sure as hell won't be laid off now will they? They will make up some crap to keep them busy. Say modify a Military base to house detentionees  , or help DHS strip search granny's and toddlers. Well you get my point. However a private company or perhaps several hundred could stop what they normally do, pick up the harness and work at recovery, when finished they go right back to work in the trades.
 
Churches and other community organizations are encouraged rather than simply allowed to help.
Folks take this all or nothing mindset when they don't want things to work. BIG nay HUGE goverment is not always the best answer sometimes it is but not always.
 
Romney has ideas, don't pretend he is the king and will be allowed to do as he wishes. Congress is still in charge.

[Dixie Dude]

I live in the south, we have hurricanes quite regularly.  FEMA IS ALWAYS LATE, PERIOD.  Our national guard, along with churches who take up food, water, blankets, and clothes, get there first and take care of the needy.  When FEMA went into New Orleans, they told the church people to go home, they were going to handle everything.  Why, and why are our power crews, one from Huntsville, and one from Decatur turned back because they were not union?  Stupid is as stupid does. 
 
The reason Fema should be turned over to the national guard:
 
1) It can be called out by the Governor immediately and not have to wait for Fema.
2) They have trucks, MRE's, can handle security, and they have water trucks to deliver fresh water.
3) They have backhoes, doziers, dump trucks, and chain saws, to handle emergency clean up.
4) They also have diesel generators to offer power at locations for refugees, such as schools, community buildings, etc, even if they don't have power.
5)We really don't have to have FEMA.  The military due to their strict military dicipline can respond much quicker. 
6) The national guard here, lets charities go in to help, they just check things out. 
 
Now, why do we need FEMA? 

[ironglow]

  With the mess in Staten Island now..people thirsty and hungry and very little help coming..doesn't look like anyone can depend upon the far left messiah either !!