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Offline eskimo36

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Re: Would this be a good deer rifle
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2012, 07:17:05 AM »
Ammo starts from Midway at under $12 a box with hunting loads around $20.  We all know we can beat that reloading.  I see a lot of uses for the gun that started this thread and it's economical to shoot.
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Re: Would this be a good deer rifle
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2012, 07:18:48 AM »
As an expensive plinker it's OK.

Like Twoshooter said, everything needed for North American game has been made since 1906.  The 30-30 was good enough for Grandpa.  The 30-06 was a favorite with the boys coming home from WWII.  Both can and have taken the biggest game in North America.  The 30-06 is my favorite cartridge. 

Now you talk about Magnamization, yea I like them too.  My favorite there is the .338/378 Weatherby, one step above the Lapua Mag.  I now sit up on the ridge and wait till the Moose, Caribou, Black Bears, or Grizzlies came out into the meadows along the river.  Range 300 to 800 yards.  The Game has no clue we are in the area.  One shot and the animal is down.  Distance is far enough that the rest of the game in the meadow don't get upset, and continue to brouse or eat.  Only the Wolves will run.  My .338/378 still has over 2361 ft lbs of energy at 1000 yards, and traveling at 2174 fps.  So there is a use for my magnimazation.   

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Re: Would this be a good deer rifle
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2012, 08:59:09 AM »
Well, of course it can't be a deer rifle. That's a "black" rilfe and must be classified as an "Assault Handi" and immediately banned. (Sorry, I know. Way off topic, but I just couldn't help myself. ;) )
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Re: Would this be a good deer rifle
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2012, 09:13:25 AM »
Sourdough makes as good a case as can be made for the big magnums..when you're talking Alaskan moose & grizzly..you want a real sledgehammer.  My nephew has a cabin up there around Sourdough's area and gets all those things..he usually uses a .375 H&H and he doesn't feel 'over gunned' with griz..especially at close range.
 
  Two Shooter & others..don't feel like I am putting down the man who wants a wildcat or near wildcat round; I have often had the urge for a wildcat but never acted upon it.  Nothing wrong with a "truly custom" gun !
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Re: Would this be a good deer rifle
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2012, 05:22:09 PM »
I have the 300 BLK in an AR, and the only word that comes to mind is FUN!!!  Is it really practical, no.  Is it more fun than the 416 Rigby?  Heck yes.  The kids and grandkids love the BLK.  Ammo is reasonable, now that you can find it.  If you reload, 223 brass is laying everywhere to make the BLK from.  That it isn't the best choice for deer isn't really an issue with me.  There are better choices for that.  If you have the coin and desire, the BLK suppressed fills a need that most of us just don't have.  I have the big magnums in droves, like the 375 H&H, 416 Rigby, 405 Win, 45-70 (Not a magnum, but with my handloads?) and a 375 Black Mesa Express.  That's what makes this hobby fun, choices.  If it was all about suitability, a 22 single shot, a 12 ga pump, and a 30 cal anything over 30-30 would be all anyone would ever be able to justify.
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Re: Would this be a good deer rifle
« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2012, 06:10:24 PM »
The operative word is "good".........the answer is no..............period.
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Re: Would this be a good deer rifle
« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2012, 07:03:33 PM »
My dad always had a saying, "The label may say one size fits all, but not very well". ;D
 
I believe that the man asked if it would be a good deer rifle.  As we now understand through the numerous post here, "good" has many different meanings to different people. 
 
I have not had personal experience with the round, but it sounds like it would do the job with short range deer hunting.  It also seems to be a flexible round that could be used for alot of different things.  Being that the round has different factory loadings, the fact that it is flexible with factory loadings is a plus.  The only problem "special" factory loadings are sometimes hard to find.  (Have you looked for any 30-06 Managed Recoil lately?)
 
Handloading would open up even more opportunities. 
 
Personally, I wouldn't consider owning one for the price that has been quoted here since I have a 7.62x39 Handi that I can load to match anything I want to do. 
 
Price and availability are your business as well as the uses and fun you plan for the rifle.  I say go for it and post the results of your decision here for us! ;)
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Re: Would this be a good deer rifle
« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2012, 07:55:18 PM »
To answer the original questions, I think it would work fine as a deer rifle. That being said, like most things in life, it requires some common sense. Choose the right bullet, choose the right application and choose the right shot with good bullet placement. I read "correct or good bullet placement" used all the time for small, marginal cartridges. I think this is misleading. Correct bullet placement should be used at ALL times regardless of the caliber being used. Afterall, we owe it to the game we hunt.

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Re: Would this be a good deer rifle
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2012, 03:22:08 AM »
The price of the Blackout Handi doesn't seem outrageous to me since it comes threaded for a suppressor.

If you were to buy a new Handi then take it to a gunsmith and have him thread the barrel for a suppressor you'd spend about the same as what the Blackout is going for.

"Good" deer rifle is a subjective term. It's all about what works for you. I hunt very thick New England woods, a 357 Max or 45 Colt rifle is "good" for me. Someone who lives out west in an area with wide open 400 yards shots might not consider my choices "good".
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Re: Would this be a good deer rifle
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2012, 07:23:28 AM »
Quote from: Doublebass73 on September 17, 2012, 03:22:08 AM
The price of the Blackout Handi doesn't seem outrageous to me since it comes threaded for a suppressor.

If you were to buy a new Handi then take it to a gunsmith and have him thread the barrel for a suppressor you'd spend about the same as what the Blackout is going for.

"Good" deer rifle is a subjective term. It's all about what works for you. I hunt very thick New England woods, a 357 Max or 45 Colt rifle is "good" for me. Someone who lives out west in an area with wide open 400 yards shots might not consider my choices "good".

Very good point.
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Re: Would this be a good deer rifle
« Reply #40 on: September 30, 2012, 04:26:22 AM »
I'll stick with my 7.62x39 and 30-30
nothing else needed
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Re: Would this be a good deer rifle
« Reply #41 on: September 30, 2012, 03:22:20 PM »
I've said it before and I'll say it again... if I want an absolutely gutless 30 caliber round I'll load up my 30-30 with Trailboss and a heavy bullet and there it is. I can't wait for all this Blackout nonsense to fade away. My 32-20 Handi will do anything and everything that this junker will do all day long. ;)
 
 
 
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