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FINALLY the REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE (long)
« on: August 22, 2012, 07:53:40 AM »
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It appears this might be getting legs, we can only hope!
 SNOPES VERIFIED THIS AS TRUE
Obamas authentic birth certificate from Coast Memorial Hospital , in Mombasa , KENYA . Now the task is to get the courts to authenticate it
 
Snopes say's it's true
 
Here it is! The document we have been waiting for!  Now if only Congress or the Supreme Court will act on this!
Spread this around....if these documents are as authentic as they certainly seem to be, Obama is NOT qualified to be our President and he sits in the White House illegally!
This is what Obama has spent almost $2M (so far) to hide.
 
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Here's a close-up of the top of the document where you can plainly read his name and his parent's names, etc....
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A British history buff was asked if he could find out who the colonial registrar was for Mombasa in 1961.
After only a few minutes of research, he called back and said "Sir Edward F. Lavender  Note the same name near the bottom of the photo above.
Source(s):   Kenya Dominion Record 4667 Australian library."
And here is a close-up of the bottom of the document where you can read "Coast Providence�of Kenya " and the
Official signature of the Deputy Registrar.....
 
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The above document is a "Certified Copy of Registration of Birth", but below is a copy of the actual Certificate of Birth...
The real-deal legal kind of certificate.
The Mombasa Registrar of Births has testified that Obama's birth certificate from Coast Province General Hospital in
Mombasa is genuine. This copy was obtained by Lucas Smith through the help of a Kenyan Colonel who recently got it
Directly from the Coast General Hospital in Mombasa , Kenya ..  Here  it is.....
 
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Note the  footprint!!
The local Muslim Imam in Mombasa named Barack with his Muslim middle name Hussein so his official name on this certificate is Barack Hussein Obama II.  The grandmother of Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. Reveals the story of his birth in Mombasa , Kenya , a seaport, after his mother suffered labor pains while swimming at ocean beach in Mombasa ....
"On August 4, 1961 Obama's mother, father and grandmother were attending a Muslim festival in Mombasa , Kenya ...
Mother had been refused entry to airplanes due to her nine month pregnancy.  It was a hot August day at the festival so the Obama s went to the beach to Cool off. While swimming in the ocean his mother  experienced labor pains so was rushed to the Coast Provincial General Hospital , Mombasa , Kenya where Obama was born a few hours later at 7:21 PM on August 4, 1961. Four days later his mother flew to Hawaii and registered his birth in Honolulu as a certificate of live birth which omitted the place and hospital of birth."
 
Letter from Kitau in Mombasa , Kenya ........
"I happen to be Kenyan. I was born 1 month before Obama at Mombasa medical center. I am a teacher here at the MM Shaw Primary School in Kenya . I compared my birth certificate to the one that has been put out by Taitz and mine is exactly the same. I even have the same registrar and format. The type is identical. I am by nature a skeptical person. I teach science here and challenge most things that cannot be proven. So I went to an official registrar today and pulled up the picture on the web. They magnified it and determined it to be authentic. There is even a plaque with Registrar Lavenders name on it as he was a Brit and was in charge of the Registrar office from 1959 until January of 1964. The reason the date on the certificate says republic of Kenya is that we were a republic when the "copy" of the original was ordered. I stress the word "copy". My copy also has republic of Kenya . So what you say is true about Kenya not being a republic at the time of Obama's birth, however it was a republic when the copy was ordered.
The birth certificate is genuine. I assure you it will be authenticated by a forensic auditor. We are very proud Obama was born here. We have a shrine for him and there are many people who remember his birth here as he had a white mother. They are being interviewed now by one of your media outlets.
Fortunately they even have pictures of his parents with him immediately after his birth at the Mombasa hospital with the hospital in the back ground. It will be a proud day for us when it is proven that he was born here and a Kenyan became the most powerful man in the world.
 
I encourage anyone to come here and visit. I will be happy to take you and show you the pictures at the hospital myself as well as my document and many others that are identical to what Taitz posted. God Bless. Kitau"
So, how much more proof do we need?


Well, Here it is...{SJC}
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Lolo Soetoro, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, baby Maya Soetoro, and 9 year old Barry Soetoro.
 
This registration document, made available on Jan. 24, 2007, by the Fransiskus Assisi
school inJakarta, Indonesia , shows the registration of Barack Obama under the name
Barry Soetoro made by his step-father, Lolo Soetoro.
 
 
Name: Barry Soetoro
Religion: Islam
Nationality: Indonesian
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How did this little INDONESIAN Muslim child - Barry Soetoro, (A.K.A. Barack Obama)
get around the issue of nationality to become President of the  United States of America ?
 
PART 2:
In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama's qualifications for the presidency, the
group "Americans for Freedom of Information" has released copies of President Obama's
college transcripts from  Occidental College    .....
 
The transcript indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a
foreign student from  Indonesia    while an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was released
by Occidental   College   in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the
Superior Court of  California .. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial
aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program.
To qualify for this scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
This document provides the smoking gun that many of Obama's detractors have been seeking -
that he is NOT a natural-born citizen of the  United States    - necessary to be President of these
United States.  Along with the evidence that he was first born in   Kenya , here we see that there is
no record of him ever applying for  US    citizenship..
 
Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation
of Obama's campaign spending.  This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000
in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block
disclosure of any of his personal records.
 
Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still on-going but that the final report will be provided
to the  U.S.    attorney general, Eric Holder.  Mr. Holder has refused comment on this matter.
 
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Re: FINALLY the REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE (long)
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2012, 08:30:21 AM »
Since the source cited is Snopes, it should also be pointed out that everything posted has been discredited as completely false, and the statements have been shown to be incorrect. Forgery is not difficult. If you dig deeper, you will find that Obama's mother and father may not have been legally married when he was born, and as the child of a single-mother who was a US citizen, it does not matter where he was born, he is still legally a US citizen. In addition, she divorced his father while he was an infant, and she got custody. Now, why she got divorced if they were not married is anybody's guess--- I'm not religious, so maybe that makes a difference. None of that changes her citizenship, though, so it's all irrelevant.
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2012, 09:22:21 AM »
If it is all irrelevant w h y the extreme measures to keep all of this hidden?
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2012, 11:00:02 AM »
What? All this top-secret stuff someone found on the internet?  ;D ;D ;D

All the examples came from someone's email! Once an email is sent, the images  and the content can be altered into whatever you want before you forward it. I've taken anti-Obama propaganda email sent to me by my step dad, and changed the name from Obama to Romney and forwarded it back to everyone he sent it out to. Go to Snopes, if that's your source, and check it yourself. They have already debunked these "documents."  :D Keep trying! It's entertaining!  ;D
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2012, 11:55:40 AM »
Needles,

The United States Constitution requires a candidate be a "Natural Born Citizen", not just a citizen.   A person can be a naturalized citizen, but must be Natural Born in the US  for the Presidency.    If Obama's records we have state he is an Indonesian national, that would cast doubts on eligibility.   

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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2012, 12:00:36 PM »
Some liberal hacker may be attacking GBO because I dont see anything in that post above.
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2012, 12:24:50 PM »
Natural born is not the same as native born. And, to reiterate, Snopes debunked these "documents." He was born in Hawaii, as far as I know.
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2012, 12:38:03 PM »
Does anyone seriously believe Snopes would verify something as true that would discredit Obama? As soon as I read the words "Snopes says its true" there wasnt any need to read further.
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2012, 03:31:25 PM »
Snopes verified it?!?!?!?!?

I don't think so........... http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2012, 03:56:26 PM »
Some liberal hacker may be attacking GBO because I dont see anything in that post above.

 
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2012, 04:54:38 PM »
I did also, no pictures.  Also, for Needles, why isn't Obama's college records open.  Romney's are.  Did he go to school as a foreign student?  It couldn't have been bad grades at Occidental college or Columbia, because he couldn't have gotten into Harvard with bad grades.  So, what is he hiding.
 
If he went as a foreign student, and IS an American citizen, then he committed fraud, and that is a felony.
 
If he is a foreign born, and he did go as a foreign student, then he can't be president, and that is treason.
 
Either way, he is toast.
 
Why has he spent $6 million keeping his records sealed?  What has he got to hide?  They can turn over every leaf of every Republican, but why not him? 

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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2012, 05:47:55 PM »
I love the birther conspiracy. Since 2007 no matter what's presented or confirmed it can't be killed! Birthers are deaf and blind!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama_birth_certificate
 
It keeps morphing! The monster's even grown a college record tentacle.  I'd like to know where the $6M to keep it secret rumor comes from. WND?  ;)
Maybe his college is like all others, only the student/graduate can have the records released. It's not public information.
Funny how the same people demanding his college records are the same ones crying about gun purchase background checks. They're the same thing, none of anybody's business!
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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2012, 06:13:55 PM »
Birthers are deaf and blind!
 

Be careful. You never really know.
 
Where there is smoke there is usually a fire, as they say. You have to admit. Something just ain't right with this whole birth place issue. How can anyone born in this country have such a hard time convincing such a huge cross section of America on this issue? The documents are at least suspect. And the question is why? I'm the same age as obama and I can produce enough evidence that I was born here with no issue as most people can. Why are his college record sealed? What the heck.......makes no sense. Why are so many other things about this guys past such a secret? Any one of these by itself does not amount to much. But collectively, it does not pass the smell test. Deaf & Blind...who? That is what I ask....
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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2012, 06:33:05 PM »
and I love the ones who seem to believe everything he has said or claimed to be the truth.
The knife cuts both ways and no one has proven 100% either way which IS THE TRUTH.
There are just to many questions left unanswered about him.
The only truth about him so far that can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt (and this is by his own statements) is that he is a TOTAL LIAR!!!
You would be hard pressed to produce one single statement that he has made that was 100% truthful and can be verified.
 I am sure the same can also be said about Mitt to some extent but we are talking about THIS LIAR right now.
One day the real truth will come out.
We will just have to wait and see who was right.
 
 
 
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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2012, 06:51:57 PM »
obama said:
 
He would cut the annual budget deficit in half
Reduce the debt
Unemployment would not go above 8% (ridiculous promise to make, but none the less, its his promise)
Bring people together
Collaborate on a health care solution
many many more
 
All lies. What else?
 
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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2012, 04:06:35 AM »
I love the birther conspiracy. Since 2007 no matter what's presented or confirmed it can't be killed! Birthers are deaf and blind!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama_birth_certificate
 
It keeps morphing! The monster's even grown a college record tentacle.  I'd like to know where the $6M to keep it secret rumor comes from. WND?  ;)
Maybe his college is like all others, only the student/graduate can have the records released. It's not public information.
Funny how the same people demanding his college records are the same ones crying about gun purchase background checks. They're the same thing, none of anybody's business!
Why then is his true place of birth still in doubt? Why are Romney's tax records so important? If Obama has nothing to hide why is he hiding his college records and why is there an obviously forged birth certificate out there? Why do you lefties hide from any form of truth and honesty?
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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2012, 04:38:57 AM »
Because he is a liar. That's why this records are hidden. obama is a compulsive liar about because its the only way he has a chance to win a anything. The problem he has now, his real performance. The American people can see his performance now. And since its adding up to be the worst president in American history, November will be the real report card.
 
Just because the media refuses to embrace journalism when faced with the obama issues, we should not confuse that with the real poor performance of this president.
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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2012, 04:44:39 AM »
I did also, no pictures.  Also, for Needles, why isn't Obama's college records open.  Romney's are.  Did he go to school as a foreign student?  It couldn't have been bad grades at Occidental college or Columbia, because he couldn't have gotten into Harvard with bad grades.  So, what is he hiding.
 
If he went as a foreign student, and IS an American citizen, then he committed fraud, and that is a felony.
 
If he is a foreign born, and he did go as a foreign student, then he can't be president, and that is treason.
 
Either way, he is toast.
 
Why has he spent $6 million keeping his records sealed?  What has he got to hide?  They can turn over every leaf of every Republican, but why not him?

 
 
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« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2012, 05:58:08 AM »
I have a friend whose daughter was born in S. Africa in a private hospital, to two American parents.  She had to apply for citizenship in the US when they returned.
 
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« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2012, 06:07:16 AM »
More questions:
 
Why has all other presidents released their college records? 
 
Why is it that other presidents, including Clinton, can actually relate to the American people?  Is it because they were raised here, and not in some foreign country?
 
Why does he hate millionares and billionares, yet gladly take their money?  America is supposed to be the country of upward mobility.
 
Why does he hate ALL fossil fuels, even though our WHOLE economy DEPENDS on them? 
Oil for gasoline, diesel fuel, fuel oil, jet fuel, plastics, paints, synthetics.
Coal for powerplants, synthetics, synthetic oil, plastics and medicines.
Natural gas for home heating, water heating, cooking, even clothes drying, power plants, making hydrogen, fertiliziers, some vehicle fuel.
 
Instead of pushing solar and wind, which have their limited place, why not algae for oil and natural gas, synthetic fuel from coal? 
 
There are millions of people who work in all this industry or industry that requires this industry. 
 
Virtually all our food is requires some type of fossil fuel, whether being shipped to markets, kept refrigerated, canned, dried, frozen, using some type of fossil fuel. 
 
Does he want us to go back to the 1800's and live off the land using farm animals, natural fertilizers, no electricity, no running water, no sewage treatments, no internet. 
 
Solar is only effictive in certain areas of the country without requiring some type of battery back up.  Batteries require fossil fuels to make.  Steel requires coal to melt iron ore.  All metals require fossil fuels to melt into products.  Some type of fossil fuel is needed to make the solar cells or solar heaters.
 
Wind is only cost effective if you have 20mph wind constantly, which is the plains states and some coastal areas.  Not many people live in the plains states so they don't need much electricity.  The vast expensive infrastructure IS NOT IN PLACE to transmitt the wind energy to where people live. 
 
The vast infrastructure is already in place from existing power plants and existing natural gas wells.  Wiring and pipelines and utitilies are already in place and took billions of dollars over 150 years to put in place.  Solar and wind ARE NOT going to happen overnight. 
 
If he wants everyone to buy hybrids, using vastly limited lithium ore batteries, and electric cars and trucks, we have to have at least a 20% increase in the power supplies to charge these vehicles.  Wouldn't natural gas and diesel vehicles be a better option?  Infrastructure is in place for connections.  Diesels get better mileage like hybrids, even if it is not quite as good, it is a step in the right direction.  Why hasn't he changed over the postal delivery trucks and federal fleet vehicles to natural gas?  Longer range, quicker filling than electrics.   
 
Why does he not want to get rid of the inheritance tax so family farms can stay in business and not be sold to giant agribusiness companies to pay the taxes, or broken up and subdivided into developments?  People have paid taxes all their lives, accumulated hard earned wealth, only to have half of it to go to the government instead of their heirs. 
 
Why doesn't he bust up the large banks into smaller, not to big to fail banks?  His banking reforms didn't help the people, it only helped the banks.
 
Why is he using the EPA to shut down whole industries, or make them jump through so many hoops to get a job done, which provides badly needed jobs, like pipeline construction?  I had one job held up for a year.  It was only a mile of natural gas pipeline along a state highway.  Too much bureaucracy and paper shuffling. 
 
Just backing off a little with the EPA, allowing drilling offshore again, and allowing drilling on the previously leased government lands, and not shuting down the coal plants, would drop the unemployment rate about 1%. 
 
My belief is his socialist/facist/communist leanings want to bring capitalist America to it's knees, and make it into a glorious socialist state utopia, where everyone lives in a 500 sq ft house, drives an electric golf cart car, uses solar and wind power when it is available, doesn't take vacations, doesn't travel, but just sits at home watching TV, and works a minimum wage job, has a bandaid health care system, while all the educated elitists get to keep their wealth.  Only if you are a "party member" do you get a chance to get some of the "privilages" offered by the state. 

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Re: FINALLY the REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE (long)
« Reply #20 on: August 23, 2012, 06:18:14 AM »
More questions:
 
Why has all other presidents released their college records? 
 
You can't see them for the former Presidents. Name me one who has released them. Bush's were leaked illegally by someone working for the college - he did not willingly provide them.
 
 Obama's school records are treated no differently that any other President, or yours or mine. His privacy is protected by the Family Education Rights and Privacy Act of 1974.
 
 None of the four contenders for the Republican nomination has released any education records. This is just another lie spread about Obama with no basis to it whatsoever
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Re: FINALLY the REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE (long)
« Reply #21 on: August 23, 2012, 06:27:04 AM »
Obama's birthplace, birth certificate are NOT in question. The argument is over. Some people seem to think their belief or disbelief is as valid as proof. It is not. As to what some see as lies, I see as proof that the regressive congress set out to make him a "liar" from the get-go. What do you call them? For that reason alone, I will personally never vote for another conniving, backstabbing, dishonorable, cheating, lying regressive politician again. What I see is a group of jerks that have shown that they are willing to stall the economic recovery to the detriment of the entire country just so they can say they won. Sure, you can point to a liberal politician here and there that have done something wrong--- I can point at 241 lowlifes that have taken congressional pay for 4 years and done absolutely nothing to earn it.  I could agree with the regressives on this board, but then we'd ALL be wrong!  :D :D :D
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Re: FINALLY the REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE (long)
« Reply #22 on: August 23, 2012, 06:53:44 AM »
Regardless   of   the  B.  certificate   we   cant  get  back   the   last  4  years  .   November   will  be  the  only  chance to   correct   the  direction   we  are   headed.

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Re: FINALLY the REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE (long)
« Reply #23 on: August 23, 2012, 06:58:11 AM »
Inquisitive voters, it's always something!
 
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Re: FINALLY the REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE (long)
« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2012, 06:58:36 AM »
I have a friend whose daughter was born in S. Africa in a private hospital, to two American parents.  She had to apply for citizenship in the US when they returned.
 
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Which makes here not a "natural born" US Citizen and therefor not eligible to be president. There are exceptions to this for the military. As an example, if you are serving in a foreign country as part of your duty, your wife gives birth there, you are a natural born US citizen.
 
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Re: FINALLY the REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE (long)
« Reply #25 on: August 23, 2012, 06:59:51 AM »
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To qualify to be president, how many are you required to submit?
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« Reply #26 on: August 23, 2012, 07:02:18 AM »
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If there was a problem with Romney's tax returns th IRS would have found it by now.

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Re: FINALLY the REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE (long)
« Reply #27 on: August 23, 2012, 08:15:06 AM »
Hey now we had a president who was a crook several who had affairs while in office , several more who smoked dope one didn't inhale but soaked his cigars  ;) etc. When you run with a crowd like that what's a fake ID ?
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Re: FINALLY the REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE (long)
« Reply #28 on: August 23, 2012, 09:17:39 AM »
No tax returns are required to be released as a qualification to be president. The IRS has all that info already.
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Re: FINALLY the REAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE (long)
« Reply #29 on: August 23, 2012, 10:06:57 AM »
So basically, all this trash talk from obama and the democrate's about Romney's tax returns is just another pile of garbage for them to attempt to lie to the American people. Par for the course from the filth mongering liar in the WH and his democrat accomplices.
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