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Re: Recall Governor Walker??
« Reply #60 on: January 28, 2012, 01:37:42 PM »
My 2011 (Gov. Walker)Wisconsin property taxes dropped $70.  My 87 year old mom's taxes went up $80.  My 2010 (Gov. Doyle) Wisconsin property taxes dropped $200. 

yep .. but trust me Buckskin will ignore this fact you just posted because it doesn't fit in his little ideological tow the party line at all costs box.
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Re: Recall Governor Walker??
« Reply #61 on: January 28, 2012, 01:40:05 PM »
David Stockman, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Reagan, was the creator of the phrase "trickle down theory".  He has more recently said, " The Republican Party has totally abdicated its job in our democracy, which is to act as the guardian of fiscal discipline and responsibility.  They' re on an anti-tax jihad--one that benefits the prosperous class.

I agree,
Every economist with his salt will say the same. The Facts have born this out to be a truth. And with Romney or Gingrich we will get more of the same. There is only one true conservative running on the republican ticket , and it ain't them .
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Re: Recall Governor Walker??
« Reply #62 on: January 29, 2012, 03:34:25 AM »
My 2011 (Gov. Walker)Wisconsin property taxes dropped $70.  My 87 year old mom's taxes went up $80.  My 2010 (Gov. Doyle) Wisconsin property taxes dropped $200. 

yep .. but trust me Buckskin will ignore this fact you just posted because it doesn't fit in his little ideological tow the party line at all costs box.

Ahh, you can't judge what property taxes did in Wisconsin on 2 people. Typical liberal misdirection again... There are many factors that go into property taxes, such as if the school district signed contracts before Walkers tools were implemented, such as Milwaukee and even where I live.  Their contract automatically renewed and our district either ignored it or forgot about it, which ever I had a $20 increase, not bad considering the past. Next year it will be better.  The overall state property tax rate went DOWN slightly FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 10 YEARS... 
 
The 80's under Reagan were one of the most prosperous time of our country, so his trickle down was working just fine.  Under Carter we had run away inflation, interest rates in the mid teens and the country was in bad shape.  Reagan fixed the liberal mess, Clinton broke it again.
 
As far as Romney and Gingrich, you can keep them both, same as last election... I will grudgingly vote for whichever wins because it is a step up from the Donkey in there now although it may be better for the country overall to completely fail and have Paul Ryan do a full overhaul in the next election.
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Re: Recall Governor Walker??
« Reply #63 on: January 29, 2012, 04:58:06 AM »
The 80's under Reagan were one of the most prosperous time of our country, so his trickle down was working just fine.

Reagan had good policies and bad (which is the point you continue to miss because your head is so stuck in towing every piece of RINO garbage they feed you have forgotten what it means to be a true republican.)

 Here is a small graph for you perhaps you can earn something regarding supply side economics ie:trickle down, that worked so well for America. Here is your national budget deficit. Robbing from the poor to give to the rich with hopes it will all just trickle down and create Jobs and wealth for middle class Americans has never worked.

Your History is so broken I don't know where to begin. I don't have the time and this thread is neither the place.
Perhaps a local colleges can offer you a course so you can brush up.

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Re: Recall Governor Walker??
« Reply #64 on: January 29, 2012, 06:08:31 AM »
Ohhh how to compete with such condescending comments... Typical liberal tactics again, yawn.
 
Your graph is very impressive, but it does not come close to explaining the whole story. Reagan did not have cooperation with congress and if he would have been allowed to cut domestic and entitlement spending further, the budget would have been balanced in his second term and without the massive tax increases of Clinton.
 
Since you cut and paste from Wikipedia so well, here's a couple for you from the same page. 
 
During the Reagan administration, the American economy went from a GDP growth of -0.3% in 1980 to 4.1% in 1988 (in constant 2005 dollars), which reduced the unemployment rate by 1.6%, from 7.1% in 1980 to 5.5% in 1988.
 
The inflation rate, 13.5% in 1980, fell to 4.1% in 1988.
 
This economic boom lasted 92 months without a recession, from November 1982 to July 1990, the longest period of sustained growth during peacetime and the second-longest period of sustained growth in U.S. history. The growth in the economy lasted more than twice as long as the average period of expansions since World War II.
 
Anyone can cherry pick stats to enforce their opinion, but most do it without posing with the brilliance of Einstien. LOL...
 
Now show me where your Obama's deficit (which makes Reagan's deficit look like a toll fee) that he has put on our backs did anything to improve the US economy.  Give Scooter Walker a couple more years, especially after ZerObama is out of the way and you will see great results from Walker as well. Again, to the dismay of your union chief's and blind followers.
 
Now you can go back to Wikipedia a little further down the page and cut and paste the negative interpretations paragraph and act all smart again...
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Re: Recall Governor Walker??
« Reply #65 on: January 29, 2012, 06:40:28 AM »
Umm,pardon for askin'.
How did that recall thing end up? 
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Re: Recall Governor Walker??
« Reply #66 on: January 29, 2012, 07:22:58 AM »
Ohhh how to compete with such condescending comments... Typical liberal tactics again, yawn.
Your graph is very impressive, but it does not come close to explaining the whole story.

I absolutely agree , you will get no argument here ,  -  as I have stated (twice now) he had good policies and bad.
Just like every other administration. But overall Trickle down did not work , has never worked , added to the deficit and monies stayed at the top.

What I take issue with is the fact that just because I look at both sides of all issues and make up my own mind if they fit into my core Republican values that somehow makes me less Republican.  I do find myself leaning more liberal or Libertarian on social issues, and more conservative on fiscal issues.

Anyone can cherry pick stats to enforce their opinion, but most do it without posing with the brilliance of Einstien. LOL.

Exactly  -  you just made my point for me!!!!

Ron Paul makes sense to me.

Does not make me any less Republican because I don't align myself with the Far right wing Extremists like yourself that have hijacked the Party.  Again that's your issue , not mine,  that I don't fit into your nice little box of what a republican is or is not.

Walker and the Walkers of the world are wrong.Eeven Reagan understood all including corps needed to pay their fair share.
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Re: Recall Governor Walker??
« Reply #67 on: January 31, 2012, 03:51:00 AM »
Umm,pardon for askin'.
How did that recall thing end up?
Thet're trying to verify the signatures right now. If the signatures check out, we'll have another election for governor. JUst what we need >:(

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« Reply #68 on: January 31, 2012, 05:37:20 AM »
What I take issue with is the fact that just because I look at both sides of all issues and make up my own mind if they fit into my core Republican values that somehow makes me less Republican.  I do find myself leaning more liberal or Libertarian on social issues, and more conservative on fiscal issues.
More conservative on fiscal issues??? LOL, if that were the case you would be ecstatic that Walker balanced a 1.5 billion dollar deficit without massive layoffs or service cuts.  But no, you just care about YOUR union benefits...

Anyone can cherry pick stats to enforce their opinion, but most do it without posing with the brilliance of Einstein. LOL.

Exactly  -  you just made my point for me!!!!
What is that??? That you cherry pick stats and then act like your Einstein... Yes, I guess I did.

Ron Paul makes sense to me.

I am all for Ron Paul aside from his wacko defense plan.  In this environment, we need cutting edge weaponry and an extremely defensive military, not moving towards Canadian military structure.  His idea to casterate the federal reserve is brilliant.  Unfortunately he will not win the primary or even come close. 

Does not make me any less Republican because I don't align myself with the Far right wing Extremists like yourself that have hijacked the Party.  Again that's your issue , not mine,  that I don't fit into your nice little box of what a republican is or is not.
So tell me where you are as a Republican, you seem to be all over the board.  What do you think of Paul Ryan, his budget plan, his healthcare plan?? Who do you like as a republican candidate aside from Paul?

Walker and the Walkers of the world are wrong.Eeven Reagan understood all including corps needed to pay their fair share.
You mean like union worker's who don't want to pay for their fair share of healthcare and retirement funds like everyone else... LOL, admit it you're just mad because the coveted public union class has been broken.
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Re: Recall Governor Walker??
« Reply #69 on: February 29, 2012, 03:11:01 PM »
Must be real quit  here now, walker should step aside and save the state ton of money. JMO.

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Re: Recall Governor Walker??
« Reply #70 on: March 01, 2012, 01:44:34 AM »
BALONEY.   step aside?  you'd like that, wouldnt you? 
   he is already saving the state tons of money.   he won, and out of state organizations are driving this whole thing.   my position is that out of state organizations should keep their noses out of our business.      nobody likes a sore loser, and that is how most people i talk to see the opposition to walker.   walker will crush them in a recall effort.
 

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« Reply #71 on: March 01, 2012, 04:13:19 AM »
Must be real quit  here now, walker should step aside and save the state ton of money. JMO.

Actually, yes it has been very quite. The leftist liberals who've blown million$ of taxpayer dollar$ in the "recall" effort dont yet know who they should run for governor, as they know their own pool of useless tax and spend libtards wont go over well with the state voters.
 
Under Walker I now have CCW and a balanced and fiscally responsible state budget.
 
Under a leftard governor like jimdanydoyle, I'd have none of the above.
 
 

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« Reply #72 on: March 01, 2012, 06:01:19 AM »
Must be real quit  here now, walker should step aside and save the state ton of money. JMO.

That's too funny... Walker has a 10-15 point lead over any of the three likely contenders. Falk, Barrett, or Obey. And that is before spending any of his tons of cash at his disposal. He has massive community support, aside from the whiney liberal unionista's...
 
This election is going to be a slam dunk, my guess is that he will win by 18%, no matter who the unions run, which at the moment is Falk.
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Re: Recall Governor Walker??
« Reply #73 on: March 01, 2012, 01:19:47 PM »
I see fox news watchers here narrow minded people on a narrow mined road.

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Re: Recall Governor Walker??
« Reply #74 on: March 01, 2012, 03:03:38 PM »
you are certainly entitled to your opinion...but dont try to ram it down anyone's throat.  you sure as hell aint winning anyone over to your side with that last pi$$y little post of yours.   

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« Reply #75 on: March 02, 2012, 03:36:51 AM »
I see fox news watchers here narrow minded people on a narrow mined road.

Love it when they bring up Fox, the only news organization that won't fall in line with the liberal agenda... It really ticks them off, LOL!!!
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Re: Recall Governor Walker??
« Reply #76 on: March 02, 2012, 03:52:59 AM »
I see fox news watchers here narrow minded people on a narrow mined road.

Love it when they bring up Fox, the only news organization that won't fall in line with the liberal agenda... It really ticks them off, LOL!!!
I've been paying careful attention this morning as I watch fox.  they seem to have people from both sides of most issues.  sounds fair and balanced to me.
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« Reply #77 on: March 02, 2012, 04:24:05 AM »
fox is the most fair network out there by far.   that being said, they push the establishment agenda.   i am not saying they are a neocon propaganda outfit; but they do favor the establishment mouthpieces.   @$$clowns like krauthammer, and karl rove....who i would just as soon run over with a truck than hear them flap their lips.     that part of it i dont like.   
   overall, you are more likely to get actual news off of fox than the other networks.  you just have to filter through the propaganda....with fox it is still doable.  the other networks, they just aint worth the time or effort.   

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Re: Recall Governor Walker??
« Reply #78 on: March 02, 2012, 01:55:45 PM »
And Ill bet rush limbaugh and the tooth fairy are the leaders of the Grand Old Party.

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« Reply #79 on: March 02, 2012, 02:09:49 PM »
And Ill bet rush limbaugh and the tooth fairy are the leaders of the Grand Old Party.

Both would be better candidates than your Obama and Cathlene Falk...
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« Reply #80 on: March 02, 2012, 02:32:12 PM »
And Ill bet rush limbaugh and the tooth fairy are the leaders of the Grand Old Party.
  ya know, if you are going to cut and paste responses, just dont even bother.    it is bad enough that you are spewing you b.s. here, but to paste the same response in multiple threads?     why doesnt this surprise me?   34 posts and you are making a fool of yourself already.    ::)

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Re: Recall Governor Walker??
« Reply #81 on: March 03, 2012, 07:26:25 AM »
Yawn................just one more addition to the Ignore List.
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Re: Recall Governor Walker??
« Reply #82 on: March 04, 2012, 08:34:09 AM »
Do my eyes deceive me or does the Milwaukee Journal lie?.Front page of the Sentinel Page 14 is most interesting just saying. limbaugh apology is on page 15 a of our Fox news paper.

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Re: Recall Governor Walker??
« Reply #83 on: March 20, 2012, 02:00:45 PM »
Walker 56% Falk 44% if she's lucky.  Can't believe the pi$$ing going on about Walker... and complaining about Walker getting $$$? The unions gave the recall 20 million if they gave a cent. Don't come crying about a little gift of 250k from a personal check. Walker is going to win. If ya can't live with it move to Detroit where liberal policies have run their course. Just google Detroit ghettos pictures. No excuses Walker opponents, this is the liberal democrats final product.

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« Reply #84 on: March 22, 2012, 03:37:17 PM »
Let me put my 2 cents in Walker never would have been elected if he had told the truth! I do see there are union haters here an that's your prerogative. He had the teachers union on the ropes then he such er punched them, he,s made more enemies than friends in this state. And by the way what happened to Pam Galloway, i quit? Walker promised to create 250 thousand jobs in the state were are they? The best part is the Republicans say government does not create jobs! The businesses do, then when they get into office they make claims of creating all these jobs?  What hypocrites!!! Maybe Walker had just a bit to much butt vodka ::)

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« Reply #85 on: March 22, 2012, 04:47:00 PM »
You can go back to Jim Doyle days when we lost all kinds of jobs. The dems never complained about doyle, no you complain about Walker. And when did Walker lie?? The Dems complain he wouldn't have won if he told us how he would balance the budget. So what! Show me someone running that does what he says and then tells us how he will do it. Never happens!! Give him the seven years to create 250,000 jobs that we gave Doyle to loose 150,000. OK!!! He is a ton better gov. than Doyle and better than Tommy.

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« Reply #86 on: March 23, 2012, 01:00:07 AM »
If it was,nt for Jim Doyle i would not have a job now . The business that i work for needed money to reopen keeping close to 500 people employed.Doyle came through for the the people that was 7 years ago.What gets me is the Republican Mary Williams was against getting the money for her constituent,the owner was also the Republican chair for his county. He was asking for help and his own people basically told him to piss off.

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« Reply #87 on: March 23, 2012, 02:42:25 AM »
If it was,nt for Jim Doyle i would not have a job now . The business that i work for needed money to reopen keeping close to 500 people employed.Doyle came through for the the people that was 7 years ago.What gets me is the Republican Mary Williams was against getting the money for her constituent,the owner was also the Republican chair for his county. He was asking for help and his own people basically told him to piss off.

So who do you work for??? Diamond Jim definately helped out his friends.  Probably should have been prosecuted for it! He was a crook not unlike Blago down in Illinois who is doing federal time in Colorado... He basically destroyed this states financially, $3,000,000,000 in the hole is no joke.  Wisconsin had a choice, cut costs or raise taxes like Illinois did... Illinois is in the same situation as they were a year ago, and even though they raised taxes they brought in less revenue and are in an even bigger hole.  Wisconsin is in good shape and getting better, adding jobs every month to the dismay of liberals and union hacks.  The unions allowed the liberals to destroyed thousands of great paying jobs, union jobs, by cutting down the mining bill.  Why??? Just so Walker wouldn't get credit for those jobs. Go figure...
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Re: Recall Governor Walker??
« Reply #88 on: March 23, 2012, 03:08:27 AM »
scootrd, your chart doesn't compare the ECONOMIC GROWTH to the deficits.  IF the economy grows FASTER than the deficit, the deficit becomes a SMALLER percentage of the total.  Clinton couldn't do it WITHOUT a REPUBLICAN congress and senate.  At least Clinton compromised with the Republicans to get things done. OBAMA does not.  He will not budge.  Bonner gave him is $800 billion tax increase AND cuts to the budget.  He didn't want it because of the CUTS.  Reps caved on the tax INCREASES.  Obama just wants the tax increases but no cuts except for the military.  Again Growth under Reagan was GREATER than deficit.  He also had a DEMOCRATIC congress and senate the whole time he was in office.  If Obama would work like Clinton, things would get done.  The DEMS haven't offered a budget in 3 years.  By law they are supposed to.  The Reps have, but it allways gets shot down. 

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« Reply #89 on: March 23, 2012, 03:37:08 PM »
Don,t you find it suspect that if the mine was going to be lucrative today would it not be next year ? The republican version would not allow any recourse from land owners if  there water was contaminated by the mining operation !!!! Why would Gtac not do the necessary test drilling to accurately access the ore body? I'm telling you  i smell something rotten with this whole fa's trac deal . It appears to me Gtac wanted to come in and do as they dam well pleased and circumvent as many regulations as they could under the guise of creating these good paying jobs ,which of course the numbers very wildly .