cant make money on coyotes

[fishdaddy]

by the time you factor in your time,gas,equipment you cant make money on coyotes.i guess you could if it was an ADC job.

[sherppa]

Yep, and gas just keeps going up.  Not to mention had to put a new fuel pump in the old pickup last week. Three days out of the game plus $200.00 for the pump.  

Might be time to buy a horse.

[hillbill]

if your line is only a few miles long and starts at the house, i can see a horse being a pretty good form of transportation.seems like i remember in sum old trappin books seeing a bunch of yotes spread out on the horses butt.

[Asa Lenon]

The value is pretty sad considering that when I started trapping coyotes nearly 60 years ago the state of Michigan was paying $20.00 bounty on them. Fox and bobcats had a $5.00 bounty and incidental fox and cats paid all of the gas and vehicle expenses so the copyiotes were pure profit. $20.00 back then would be the equivalent of getting about $200.00 per coyote now.

[RdFx]

I hear you Asa.  If yotes were  $200 now days  everyone and his brother and sister would be in the woods.  I dont want to see that again...but would be nice to be able to at least pay for gas and repairs......

[Asa Lenon]

I would like to see $50.00 again but I think that would likely bring out the croud too.

[Ron 1]

it is not much but i got a Hispanic friend that gets me a case of beer for the k-9 teeth from the yotes that i get
i just run over to his house and let him know when i get 1 and he is over to get it. the hide from the last one i got is gonna be turned into a decoy.     
            rw

[trappnman]

It all depends on your coyote, and the volume you have to sell. If you have a weak bellied coyote, with poor colors you are right- hard to make money.

but if you have decent coyote, and trap them hard, you CAN make money on them on an overall line. and if you consider them part of a predator line- trapping the fox, badger, coon etc as well, you can make some real good money off the line, with coyotes being a good share of that.

[Macthediver]

If I mention trapping coyotes when asking permisson on new ground seems everyone wants me to take them. Problem I have with that is they then start trying to figure out if they can let me on the property based on the bow hunters schedule. I always tell farmers I'm pretty low profile get in and get out don't disturb to much. I trap while on vaction so have from this date to that date to be there. But I still end up driving past some good looking ground because I can't be there to check traps at noon on mondays when there is probably not a bow hunter in a tree.
I just thank them and move on, hard to work around bow hunters schedule for $5.00 coyote. I hate this big buck, horn craze, deer management thing so many of these guys have going. They hate coyotes but you have to kill them under their time constrants.
O-well

Personnally I mis the fox numbers we used to have and the $75.00 ave back in mid 70s.

Mac

[MDCAT]

guys--its eighter in your blood or not--lol--you got to love it to do it


mike

[fishdaddy]

i didt go but at the w.va fur sale coyote high was around 12 bucks. if you run enough traps to catch 500 coyotes.it would be a lot of gas money.here gas is 3.15 a gallon

[trappnman]

Mac- no way should you be averaging $5 a coyote, unless on the carcass- and even then you should be in the $8-10 range average.

I sold 40% of my coyotes for a $30 average, and sold all, including the above, for between $19-20 average.

6% of my coyotes graded flat, rubbed, weak, etc- and I averaged $5 for those- could have tossed them, but I don't mind skinning coyotes- and you never know-

I trapped some of those coyotes within view of LaCrosse (as the crow flies) so your coyotes should be very similar

if you are selling on carcass, you really should start putting them up- I myself don't mind putting up coyotes one bit- and thats cold coyotes (not frooze, but cold).

this year, after advice from many, skun almost all my cooytes hot- made a skinning rig- welded a rectangular frame, added a 2 part pole and gambril- just put it togethre and back rear tire over it- they skin like fox almost- I can skin a hot one in the time that lori remakes the set- and shes as good a coyote trapper as most out there- fresh sets we finsh within seconds of each other, so shes not slow at it.

[fishdaddy]

wvta fur sale results          http://www.wvtrappers.com/auction.html     15.50 was the high

[Macthediver]

Steve
I haven't set a trap for coyotes since 2005 I just grabbed the $5.00 number based on what I've heard other say. I usually take my first vacation in the fall to trap coon and coyote isn't open right then. Later when I take my next vacation I spend that one on the water working on trapping muskrats. I love trapping the k-9s and actually started trapping chasing fox. When I've trapped K-9s it in the recent past it was usually a mixed line, coon traps and K-9. As I get closer to the day I can retire and not have to trap around vacation time. I look forward to the starting my season out with a coon line, adding the K-9s then picking things up to play in the water. With me right now it's more about what I plan to spend my time trapping than what fur is worth, but the money does help.
By the way I think that last year I had some yotes to sell I ave right around $25.00 to $30.00. That was by finding a buyer who was going to use the fur himself and also saving and selling the skulls.

Mac

[LEO]

Sorry to hijack the thread but Trappnman could you post some more pictures of your portable skinning rack, particularly the base, I think I need one of those and since you already have worked out the bugs, I don't see any need to reinvent the wheel.  Thanks.

[b44mag]

nice skinning post my buddy will want one i think ill make him one to fit in the hitch for him he will skin a bunch of animals [if i get any  ]for me ifin i make him one i think i got the stuff in the garage to build it great idea trapperman i like it lots
                                             b44mag

[RdFx]

my skinning post apparatus fits into the reciever ship hitch.  Works great.  You could use Steves  basic shape  and your in business.

[trappnman]

I thought of doing that Lee- but then thoguht 2 things- #1- one truck had a receiver, the other didn't- so wanted it interchangeable, then thought #2- if i made it on a base, i could mount it in the shed if wanted.

so I was trying to come up with some sort of base that wouldn't tip over, and I got the hmmn. what it I parked on it?

no pixs, and buried in snow- but very simple.

i took 3/4 pipe (I think close to that) cut 2 10 " pieces and 2 24" pieces and welded then into a rectangle.

I then took a 2' piece of 1 1/2 inch pipe, cut out the sides so it fit over one of the 10" pipes, centered it, and welded it.

Because I thought this might be weak point, I welded 2- 2' pieces of  3/4 inch pipe  at an angle to the 1 1/2 pipe, about 8-10 inches up for legs- these came into play all the time, so worth doing I think- put the threaded ends down, add a cap and you got adjustable legs (I thoguht i was pretty clever when I got THAt idea)

I then took a 5 foot piece of 1" pipe, threaded end up, and slipped that into the  1 1/2 inch upright pipe

added to that was a 2' pipe, threaded end down with a connector welded onto the bottom pipe, the 5' and 2' could be now screwed together

across top of the 2' piece, i welded a 2' piece of the 3/4 inch a my arm for the gambril, drilled a hole in that, and hung the gambril from that hole on 3" of cable- this allow me to spin the coyote as needed

1' pipe fits loosely into te 1 1/2- but came up with a lot of ideas on how to correct that, but found just dropping an old wrench into te slot solved it - might improve on  that next year, might not LOL


comes apart in 3 piecs for easy hauling

[fishdaddy]

i use a 4 wheeler 2 pieces of rope and 2 golf balls

[Macthediver]

Steve
What I like about being around trappers is that most think like you and I do. Your thinking I like being in this case? "What if I just parked on it" God I love that idea and that would work with the quad runner too if a guy was in that mode of trapping. I like things that are versitile and people who think out of the box so to speak.

Mac

[fishdaddy]

you could extend the bottom out and mount a small 12 volt wench and you wouldnt have to do much pulling

[trappnman]

fishdaddy- I thought of that- in fact, it was one of the considerations if I decided I didn't like skinning in field I could bring it in the shed and add a winch.

but the guy that urged me to do it, told me when I mentioned a winch- Why?

he said trust me, you won't need one-

and he was right.

i've skinned what I thought were hot coyotes- those that I'd skin within an hour or so of killing- but honest to go the difference in right now, and an hour later, just cannot be described until you try it.

and the bonus is, a carcass at the location, makes it an even better location. for those few locations where I couldn't toss the cascass, I just took it down the road to the next one.

mac- yes, would work on anything heavy enough to hold it without tipping.

[fishdaddy]

i have a 4 wheeler winch it would hook to a ciggerett lighter

[coyotero]

I got $54.00 a piece for the coyotes I trapped in November.I made money.It all depends on the quality of your coyotes.