i tell ya, it was scary opening morning.  from the distance i heard the van pull up, the doors open, then slam shut.  i could hear the faint german speaking vermins (amish).  this all took place right at daybreak.  i was allready in my stand, waiting on the day to begin.  i had one nice doe come by with three little ones, a button head come thru not to long afterwards, then a little pukey 6 ptr.  the filed right by me went across father in laws little 2 acre scrub patch and into a thick fence row surrounding a little 4 acre field.  kaboom, kaboom, kaboom, kaboom, kaboom, kaboom, kaboom.  2 deer made it out that i seen.  this all took place less than 150 yds from me.  i was hugging the tree for dear life.  and they wonder why we dont see very many deer around here......  all i know is that a deer slug whistles when it flies by fairly close.