I think I could be happy

[Swampman]

With just my .45-70 Handi, my T/C Renegade, and my 12 gauge NEF Turkey Gun.  In fact when I get the .62 smoothbore barrel for my Renegade I think just the first 2 would be all I really needed.

[Dixie Dude]

Do you hunt any other birds besides turkey, like quail, dove, duck, or goose?  A second or third shot might give you two or more birds. 

[bikerbeans]

Swampman,

You are lucky, most of us buy many, many guns and still not sure what we want.  My old man only had three, 30-06 1903 Springfield, 22/410 Model 24 Savage and Model 12 Winchester 12 ga. and he was happy.  I have all 3 of his plus I dont' know how many others and still accumulating. 

BB

[JeffDavis]

Everytime I think I'm happy, something shiny distracts me and suddenly... I"M UNHAPPY!

[petemi]

Swampman,

You are lucky, most of us buy many, many guns and still not sure what we want.  My old man only had three, 30-06 1903 Springfield, 22/410 Model 24 Savage and Model 12 Winchester 12 ga. and he was happy.  I have all 3 of his plus I dont' know how many others and still accumulating.  

BB

That .22/.410 is a sweetheart.  I wish I could afford one.  I'd probably get it in .22 Mag and 20 ga.  The really wonderful thing around here is that I don't get any questions about the guns I buy.  I haven't got a clue as to why H&R/REM doesen't make over and unders.  It seems like it would be the next step forward.

Pete

[gcrank1]

Ummmm.......Is Rem. really making any steps forward?

[Swampman]

Nobody make better products than Remington.  The newest H&Rs are much nicer than what NEF was offering.

[Frank V]

Ummmm.......Is Rem. really making any steps forward?

They buy them aka Marlin!!!
Frank

[MSP Ret]

Nobody make better products than Remington.  The newest H&Rs are much nicer than what NEF was offering.

This is the first time I have heard anything like this, most of everything I have heard, seen, and read seems to point in the other direction. I sure hope you are correct and there has been a change....<><....

[Swampman]

The 2 New York made Handis I now own, are better fitted and finished than the ones I've owned in the past.

[Mac11700]

The 2 New York made Handis I now own, are better fitted and finished than the ones I've owned in the past.

That's a good point to make Swampy..and I agree that Remington usually does produce fine rifles..but..they are no where close to being the  "Best Made" rifle to me considering many other choices. Perhaps Best Made for the Handi's..in all of their years being produced would be more appropriate..I could see this coming true if they really put forth the effort..Sigh...if only they would turn loose of some of that fine Walnut they use on their Sporting series shotguns for these rifles...man people here would be tearing down their doors to get them..My 1100 Trap and Sporting Clays had some of the best wood on a production gun I have ever seen..



Mac

[Swampman]

Nobody make better products than Remington.  The newest H&Rs are much nicer than what NEF was offering.

I meant nobody makes better firearms than Remington.......period!

[Mac11700]

Nobody make better products than Remington.  The newest H&Rs are much nicer than what NEF was offering.

I meant nobody makes better firearms than Remington.......period!

That's cool if that's how you feel..they do make some real good ones that's 4sure..

Mac

[Frank V]

Nobody make better products than Remington.  The newest H&Rs are much nicer than what NEF was offering.

I meant nobody makes better firearms than Remington.......period!

That's cool if that's how you feel..they do make some real good ones that's 4sure..

Mac

Remingtons do shoot I'll give them that, now if they'd only put an extractor on their rifles they might have something!
I've had them fail as have two of my frineds. One on a 700 African, failure to extract might be lived with on a varmint rifle, but not on a big game rifle. Especially a dangerous game rifle. Sure they got repaired, but confidence was lost. I need a better extractor on my rifles!
Frank

[Swampman]

I've had extraction issuses with every major bolt boltaction brand that I can think of except Remington.

I like to have a MOA or better rifle.  Remington is the only brand that gives me that out of the box.

[Austin1]

Nobody make better products than Remington.  The newest H&Rs are much nicer than what NEF was offering.

I meant nobody makes better firearms than Remington.......period!

I used to be like you bleed Yellow and Green or is that Gold and Green? Now I really do not care for Remington guns I still use the Core loct bullet in reloading but that is about it! The 165gr.308 CL and 405 gr .458 are fav's of mine but I really do not like the guns any more I have 3,788's, 1 700bdl and 2 600 Mowhawks one 350 Rem and one .222.
 But had nothing but trouble with new Remingtons all are gone or were returned and I bought another brand. My new .300 Ulta mag broke the extrator on the first shot ah real good gun for dangeous game? Good thing It happend on the first shot not on a Grizzly hunt! Nope keep your new Remingtons I will stick to guns made in Europe from now on and they sell for the same price or a hundred bucks more! I like my old Rems they all shoot good and have never gave me problems. But will not through my money away on a new one.

That's cool if that's how you feel..they do make some real good ones that's 4sure..

Mac

[Austin1]

Nobody make better products than Remington.  The newest H&Rs are much nicer than what NEF was offering.

I meant nobody makes better firearms than Remington.......period!

That's cool if that's how you feel..they do make some real good ones that's 4sure..

Mac

Remingtons do shoot I'll give them that, now if they'd only put an extractor on their rifles they might have something!
I've had them fail as have two of my frineds. One on a 700 African, failure to extract might be lived with on a varmint rifle, but not on a big game rifle. Especially a dangerous game rifle. Sure they got repaired, but confidence was lost. I need a better extractor on my rifles!
Frank

That's how I feel Rem used to make good stuff but now they are all under one roof all big Amirican gun makers? So I will stick to Sako or Tika and BRNO Rifles kinda like GM And Ford Used to make good Cars lol!

[Swampman]

I studied this comment for sometime and gave up on trying to understand it.

[Dixie Dude]

Mauser actions are better on dangerous game.  That is what the professionals in Africa say.  I have had 700 actions have the bolt pull completely out when cycling.  Never did figure out why.  I didn't have my finger on the trigger either.  Tried it again, did it again.  As much as I like my 11-87 shotgun, I like my Benelli SBE better.  No rubber O-rings to wear out, not gas operated so it is much easier to clean.  Simple take down all the way to the firing pin without tools.  Remingtons are good mid-price range weapons.  Not the best, not the worse.  Military style weapons, like Mausers, are much easier to field strip and clean.  You have to have special tools to remove the firing pin from a 700.  Not so on a Mauser action. 

[bikerbeans]

One problem with some of the Mauser actions is if you rechamber to a higher pressure caliber (say 7mm Rem Mag) you can have issues with the bolt setting back.  Per a Mauser smith, this is a problem with at least the late WWII guns as the heat treat on the receiver wasn't the best.  I found all this out AFTER a case head separation when my son was shooting the gun.  No injury but I am pretty sure he isn't going to shoot another Mauser.

BB

[Swampman]

The Model 700 is a military styled firearm.

[Dixie Dude]

For magnum actions, you have to get a commercial Mauser or a Winchester 70 with Mauser action. 

[Swampman]

No the Remington 700 chambers the largest hunting rounds that are normally used in Africa.

[mitchell]

Mauser actions are better on dangerous game.  That is what the professionals in Africa say.  I have had 700 actions have the bolt pull completely out when cycling.  Never did figure out why.  I didn't have my finger on the trigger either.  Tried it again, did it again.  As much as I like my 11-87 shotgun, I like my Benelli SBE better.  No rubber O-rings to wear out, not gas operated so it is much easier to clean.  Simple take down all the way to the firing pin without tools.  Remingtons are good mid-price range weapons.  Not the best, not the worse. Military style weapons, like Mausers, are much easier to field strip and clean.  You have to have special tools to remove the firing pin from a 700.  Not so on a Mauser action.

there is no more dangerous game then the ones that shoot back.
i'm not trying to start anything but last time i went to iraq i had a remington 700 . i beat the heck out of that rifle and it kept on kickin . remington makes a great rifle. is there some better ones out there..... ya but would the average guy ever need more then remington ?? not really.

[Mac11700]

Mauser actions are better on dangerous game.  That is what the professionals in Africa say.  I have had 700 actions have the bolt pull completely out when cycling.  Never did figure out why.  I didn't have my finger on the trigger either.  Tried it again, did it again.  As much as I like my 11-87 shotgun, I like my Benelli SBE better.  No rubber O-rings to wear out, not gas operated so it is much easier to clean.  Simple take down all the way to the firing pin without tools.  Remingtons are good mid-price range weapons.  Not the best, not the worse. Military style weapons, like Mausers, are much easier to field strip and clean.  You have to have special tools to remove the firing pin from a 700.  Not so on a Mauser action.

there is no more dangerous game then the ones that shoot back.
i'm not trying to start anything but last time i went to iraq i had a remington 700 . i beat the heck out of that rifle and it kept on kickin . remington makes a great rifle. is there some better ones out there..... ya but would the average guy ever need more then remington ?? not really.

+ 1

Good to see ya Bro

Mac

[Frank V]

No the Remington 700 chambers the largest hunting rounds that are normally used in Africa.

Oh they chamber them alright, they just might not extract them! 

Not trying to make anyone mad, & if they choose a Remington that's ok with me. I just relayed what has happened to me & a couple of friends.
   I'm going to quit here & not keep this going till someone gets mad.
Frank

[Sourdough]

I've got over 80 rifles in my vaults.  Almost everything from .17HMR to a 338-378 Weatherby.  Anschutz, Mausers, Rugers, Savages, Remingtons, Marlins, Parker-Haile, T/Cs, H&Rs, and Weatherby.  Everytime I go out I run the risk of running into dangerous game.  I don't mean animals that might attack when shot, or cornered.  But animals that will actively hunt, kill, and eat you.  In many cases they have no fear of man, you are just another meal to them.  Ask Dand, he'll tell you the same thing.

My go to gun 75% of the time is a NEF Handi in 30-06.  My second gun is a T/C TCR in .338 Win Mag.  Both single shots.  After that comes a Ruger M-77 Mk II .338, a Remington 600 in .350 Rem Mag, then my Weatherby for long range shooting.  When the wife and I go hunting in Tennessee, we carry a matching pair of Remingtons in 30-06.  Here at home the wife carries a Mauser in .35 Whelen, Sky carries a Savage in 30-06.

Many people think carrying a single shot is suicide.  Well the first shot is the one that counts, there should be no reason for a second.  In over 40 years of hunting I've only really needed a second shot twice.  Both times was my fault, I did not do my part properly.  If attacked and an emergency situation, your only going to get one shot anyway.

If I had to pick only a few to do me for the rest of my life, My NEF 30-06, Ruger .338, Remington Nylon-66, and my Stouger 12ga over and under.  With those four guns I'd be happy.

[Frank V]

I've had extraction issuses with every major bolt boltaction brand that I can think of except Remington.

I like to have a MOA or better rifle.  Remington is the only brand that gives me that out of the box.

Try a Savage with the Accura Trigger, they'll do it!
Frank

[Swampman]

There are only 2 Savages I'd consider owning .  The Savage 24 & the ML-10 II.  That's because nobody else really makes anything like them.

[petemi]

My dad helped me start my "gun life" at 11 with a Reminton 521-T .22,  At 14, it was a J.C. Higgins 12 ga. pump., and at 16, it was a Marlin 336T in .30-30.  I still have the last two.  The .22 was stolen years ago in Florida. If I had to drop back, those original three would do me.  Even without considering the fact that 12 ga. is over half a centrury old, it is still a superb old baby.  She looks and works like new.  I forgot who made them for Sears.  Being a cheap gun, fit and finish isn't all that wonderful, but the action, when new and today, is as smooth as silk.

Pete