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Offline kevinsmith5

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New .223?
« on: June 23, 2010, 12:16:52 PM »
Local Walmart has one for $255, pallet wood stock with scope and rails. No distinguishing marks on scope, but it is a 3-9 power variable.  How are the newer models of these? Anyone have recent experience?
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Re: New .223?
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2010, 01:14:35 PM »
kevin, did you happen to check the serial# ?
if it was gardner made, i'd jump on it....

couple of weeks ago i got a new rem-h&r .223 heavy with the handi-grip set that had fitting, lock-up problems. but they did make it good with a complete replacement in just a week or 2.

and it become a shooter real quick !!! ;D
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Re: New .223?
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2010, 01:41:57 PM »
Quote from: gendoc on June 23, 2010, 01:14:35 PM
kevin, did you happen to check the serial# ?
if it was gardner made, i'd jump on it....

couple of weeks ago i got a new rem-h&r .223 heavy with the handi-grip set that had fitting, lock-up problems. but they did make it good with a complete replacement in just a week or 2.

and it become a shooter real quick !!! ;D
how can you tell where it was made??
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Re: New .223?
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2010, 01:53:05 PM »
it tells you on the left side of the receiver,  and by the serial# prefix...if its a N or H its a gardner made handi
if its a CBA OR OTHER... its ilion ny--- remington handi

tim, can clarify that better for you.

its all in the....faq's    8) 
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Re: New .223?
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2010, 02:35:19 PM »
Kevin,

Price is pretty good for a new one w/optics & rings.  Buds want $255 for the same gun shipped w/o a scope plus you got your FFL on top.  Course Wallyworld has to collect the state's cut. If you look at the second letter of the serial it will give you the age up until May of 2008.  Then they started the "C" serials, so not sure after that.  "X" is 2007, "W" 2006, I have bought two new Handis this year which were made in these years w/o problems.  I haven't bought a SB2 frame yet with the "C" designation.

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Re: New .223?
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2010, 03:35:30 PM »
Anybody know the twist on new production barrels?
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Re: New .223?
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2010, 03:37:30 PM »
1:9", same as before, Marlin still makes em.

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Re: New .223?
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2010, 03:38:32 PM »
Kevin,

Supposed to be 1:9, but you have to check it.  FAQs provides the details on measuring the twist rate.

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Re: New .223?
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2010, 03:58:26 PM »
He last thing I saw in the FAQ's was that some were 1:9 and some 1:12.
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Re: New .223?
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2010, 03:58:57 PM »
I got a 223 ultra varmint from walmart about 5 years ago and it was $240.  I had to special order it.  they should have a book behind the counter for you to look through. Its been one heck of a great rifle for thinning out the groundhogs.  It likes the 45gr winchester white box ammo the best.  Ive shot 40gr hornadys through it also with great results.  not sure what my twist rate is but i think its 1 in 12".  Its a gardner made rifle if that helps.
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Re: New .223?
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2010, 05:24:32 PM »
Any .223 made after 2007 will be 1:9", even the Hornet is 1:9".

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Re: New .223?
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2010, 04:17:28 AM »
 What kind of scope do you get with the package that you are looking at? the rings look really high on them.
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Re: New .223?
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2010, 07:23:44 PM »
hey Tim, if my ser.# is cba xxxxxx with the last 3 digits engraved on barrel lug was it made in Gardner??
just bought it new a few months ago. Thanks in advance.
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Re: New .223?
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2010, 07:33:00 PM »
CBA means the frame is an SB2 made May 2008 or later, barrel could be Gardner or Ilion, but I think Ilion is marking the last 4 digits on the underlug, frame will be marked Gardner or Ilion.

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Re: New .223?
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2010, 06:52:31 AM »
I got a new one with the new checkered synthetic stock, CBA serial number, 1 in 9 twist.  I mounted a scope, bore sighted it and put it on paper at 30 yards.  The weather turned to crap and I quit.  A couple of days later, a woodchuck showed up at about 225 yards off my porch.  I can't tell you why I grabbed the .223, but I did and drilled him.  A day later, pigeons showed up at pretty much the same place, and wham, exploded pigieon.......do I like my .223?  I haven't got a clue yet to how it is grouping, but it kills whatever I point it at.  Spring is short and very busy here, so I really haven't had the time to work with my rifles.  Quite a few need fine tuning.

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Re: New .223?
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2010, 06:57:46 AM »
What loads?
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Re: New .223?
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2010, 07:35:47 AM »
Those shots were with just junk wolf, playing with the gun.  I'm thinking, when i can get the time to get serious on it, and reload for it, it's really be a tack driver.  My Handi .22-250 doesn't shoot worth anything, but I haven't worked on that much either.  See the FAQs, there's a lot of variables.

Anyhow, I love my .223.

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