Does Obama and his "progressives" hate America...?

[ironglow]

  ..Or are they just stupid ? Why else would they treat our country this way ?

  http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/18/obama-surrenders-gulf-oil-to-moscow/

[nomosendero]

Of course they hate America, at the very least in it's present form.

[steve y]

Yes they do. Why else would they want to fundamentally transform the United States of America???

[Oldshooter]

I really believe that obama grew up hating the America he was told was wrong and kept him and his people from achieving what they were capable of achieving because the rich and powerful had all the pie and would not share. He is a product of his environment. People around him taught him that This country was wrong, racially prejudiced, evil, and arrogant. Just like I taught my children that this was a great place to be, and offered anything you wanted to work for.He was taught that you had to take what you wanted cause the rich owed it to you, he was taught by his college professors the "Saul Alinsky" way of achieving your goals. Also by his friends the radicals.

He actually thinks that whatever he is doing will make it better for his constituents. Sadly he has missed the boat, cause with the following he had he could have done great things and achieved a place in history. What I think he will achieve is a place in infamy!   

[saddlebum]

ALL OF THE ABOVE: He was born from '60s radicals and never had a good family life. He managed to get a "higher" education from liberal/progressive thinkers,(America haters). Now he serves them making the baby boomer radicals dreams come true. Being black is just icing on the progressive cake. They can claim racism every time some one criticizes him. He also rallies most of the minority folks behind him,(social justice). I feel sad for good people of color. This is not Dr. Martin Luther Kings dream, not at all. He was a man of God, not a progressive radical. With all the progressive moves made in government in the last 40 or 50 years, Obama is the central player in the perfect storm. God forgive us. God help us!

[slim rem 7]

 i believe what you say is pretty much the case..
 i believe there may be a power grab ,if he can t placate an con the masses..
 this is as close as they ever came to the kinda power they want..
 they not gonna take it nicely,, having that snatched outa thier grip..
 now his special force ,that ive heard hes ask for[may have it now ..i don t know]
 might come into play..if its true,, there is such a force..it smells like what hitler did a good while
ago.. like to have ruined civilization..jmo slim

[bilmac]

He sat in a Church that spouted hatred for America for years and years. Only after he was nominated did his wife say that this was the first time in her life that she was proud of America.

[ironglow]

  On Fox news this morning;

  If the idiots shove through this suicide of American exceptionalism on Sunday..there will be a minimum of 38 individual states attornrys general, lined up to start action against it on Monday.
      Instead of liningg up to crush our rights tomorrow, they should be attending church, hopefully a decent one that teaches Bible...not "social justice" (code words for hate america).

[Swampman]

I don't think they hate America.  Hate implies a thought process.  I just think they're stupid.  Most doctors say they'll quit if it's pushed through.

[wreckhog]

 ..Or are they just stupid ? Why else would they treat our country this way ?

  http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/18/obama-surrenders-gulf-oil-to-moscow/

I'm not sure what you want here. The only way to get CUBAN OIL is to kiss Cuban ass. Why would you want America to do that?

By the way, I cannot find where Obama spoke or wrote actual words that said to stop oil drilling by 2012. Where did you read this?

Finally, if oil drilling was so popular, why aren't leading Reps in the headlines today pushing for it? I have not heard much on this issue in the last year. I suspect that fewer people care about it since then. Since Reps are no longer pushing to drill in Alaska, do they too hate America?

[Swampman]

We should lift all sanctions against Cuba and ignore them.  They would be a democracy in a few years.

[wreckhog]

I really believe that obama grew up hating the America he was told was wrong and kept him and his people from achieving what they were capable of achieving because the rich and powerful had all the pie and would not share. He is a product of his environment. People around him taught him that This country was wrong, racially prejudiced, evil, and arrogant. Just like I taught my children that this was a great place to be, and offered anything you wanted to work for.He was taught that you had to take what you wanted cause the rich owed it to you, he was taught by his college professors the "Saul Alinsky" way of achieving your goals. Also by his friends the radicals.

He actually thinks that whatever he is doing will make it better for his constituents. Sadly he has missed the boat, cause with the following he had he could have done great things and achieved a place in history. What I think he will achieve is a place in infamy!   

Are you saying that this country was never racially prejudiced? Or are you saying that it was and that is a good thing which we should go back to?

[Swampman]

This country is very racially prejudice and that will never change.  I work with some of the worst possible bigots.  They don't even make an effort to hide it and most of them came from up North.

[lgm270]

Of course they hate America!  That's the definition of a progressive. 

I knew this fact when I was in college in the '60s.  These people are communists.  There's nothing "progressive" about them.  Check this out.

]http://theblogprof.blogspot.com/2010/03/chicago-law-school-faculty-hated-obama.html

[powderman]

  ..Or are they just stupid ? Why else would they treat our country this way ?

Easy answer, YES. Osamas goal is to destroy us, and his fellow dumcraps are helping, all they want is power and control. POWDERMAN. 

[magooch]

Okay boys, it's gittin serious.  It's time to lock and load and gather up some rope.  There's got to be some hangins.  I'm puttin the chosen one at the top of the list; Pilosi and Reid will be right there on the scaffold with him.

[garbhead]

I don't think they hate America.  Hate implies a thought process.  I just think they're stupid.  Most doctors say they'll quit if it's pushed through.

I guess the doctors will have to get a job at a convenience store or be fast-food jockeys.....I don't think so...LOL
If they do quit it will be because they have been gouging their patients for the last 20 years and taken kickbacks from pharmaceuticals and have the money saved up to continue their lifestyles....

[Swampman]

Most doctors are multi-millionaires.  They don't need Obama or his crap.  If you don't like what the doctor charges don't go.  That's what I do.

[magooch]

Yeah, this is just like a while back when the dipwads were calling cops pigs.  The advice then was, if you need a cop, call a hippy.  So now I'd say, if you need a doctor, call a liberal puke.

[saddlebum]

garbhead;    I think your right on the money there about doctors. Sorry to get off topic, but I could never understand why in health care reform they never addressed the issue of doctors and hospitals grossly over charging. A hospital tried to charge me 81,000 dollars for a 4 day stay in ICU after an operation. Gee, I wonder why the evil insurance companies charge so much. I'm not sticking up for them cause I had to get a lawyer to get them to pay up and that cost me some more. The hospital down the street would have charged 6,300, because they contracted with my insurance, but in the emergency my friends took me to the wrong hospital. I had no say in it, I was barely conscious at the time. Still....73,000 dollars difference? Your right, the doctors will bug out when they don't get paid what they want and can live off what they have ripped us off for in the past.    As far as Obama and progressives go, it's not about HC it's about power and control and "fundamentally changing" America into a third world country with them on top and us and our rights getting crushed. If we live through it that is. Yes, they hate America and what it stands for.

[gwhilikerz]

from the article:

. The O Force would prefer the country shift its energy production to alternative sources, such as nuclear, solar and wind power. In theory, there's nothing wrong with that, in the long run, assuming technology can catch up to demand.  

Huh, I thought BHO and the Dems had the media all sewed up on their side...?

I don't know how any American, so-called conservative or libbers, could argue with the fact that America should be at the lead of ALTERNATIVE energy development, and that this could be immensely freeing of the American public and promote jobs; as well as affect our foreign policy in a very very positive way. I shudder to think that certain religious elements in the USA would want us stuck on archaic petroleum technology because it promotes their cosmological desires. The fact that Bush after 911 had a golden opportunity to develope alternate energy in sincere effort to extricate us from the Middle East (after suitable bombings of course), or even to develope our regional black gold resources supports this idea and the power of Corporate Petroleum. I certainly look forward to cleaner and freer energy some day that can lift the yolk off Americans. But the sad fact is most slaves like being slaves of one thing or another.


..TM7

How did you get religion involved in the energy debates? I agree that other energy sources are needed. I also think we should make the best use of what we have. The green jobs crap is just that, crap. Did you know that most of the money from the stimuls money to build a solar industry is going to hire chinese workers to produce solar panels to ship here? The progressives are about "global" and not America.

[Swampman]

It's called capitalism.

[Oldshooter]

I really believe that obama grew up hating the America he was told was wrong and kept him and his people from achieving what they were capable of achieving because the rich and powerful had all the pie and would not share. He is a product of his environment. People around him taught him that This country was wrong, racially prejudiced, evil, and arrogant. Just like I taught my children that this was a great place to be, and offered anything you wanted to work for.He was taught that you had to take what you wanted cause the rich owed it to you, he was taught by his college professors the "Saul Alinsky" way of achieving your goals. Also by his friends the radicals.

He actually thinks that whatever he is doing will make it better for his constituents. Sadly he has missed the boat, cause with the following he had he could have done great things and achieved a place in history. What I think he will achieve is a place in infamy!   

Are you saying that this country was never racially prejudiced? Or are you saying that it was and that is a good thing which we should go back to?

   


I'm seeing a trend in your posts here.  You seem to be one of the FNG's that like the Leftist liberal agenda. You only seem to question posts that lean conservative. Are you a progressive?


Actually I think that a lot of the country was racially predjudiced. I think a lot of it still is. It is by all races, even the blacks. None of that was my point.

[wreckhog]

I question what seems questionable, even when it comes from FOGs.

[nomosendero]

I really believe that obama grew up hating the America he was told was wrong and kept him and his people from achieving what they were capable of achieving because the rich and powerful had all the pie and would not share. He is a product of his environment. People around him taught him that This country was wrong, racially prejudiced, evil, and arrogant. Just like I taught my children that this was a great place to be, and offered anything you wanted to work for.He was taught that you had to take what you wanted cause the rich owed it to you, he was taught by his college professors the "Saul Alinsky" way of achieving your goals. Also by his friends the radicals.

He actually thinks that whatever he is doing will make it better for his constituents. Sadly he has missed the boat, cause with the following he had he could have done great things and achieved a place in history. What I think he will achieve is a place in infamy!   

Are you saying that this country was never racially prejudiced? Or are you saying that it was and that is a good thing which we should go back to?

Since Libs like to throw in race every time BHO is brought up, of course we had racism & to some extent still do, but the radical racist of this time are among the Blacks, anyone in a predominate black area knows this & BHO is a racist, a racist that whites voted for. thanks for bringing it up.

[ironglow]

 ..Or are they just stupid ? Why else would they treat our country this way ?

  http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/18/obama-surrenders-gulf-oil-to-moscow/

I'm not sure what you want here. The only way to get CUBAN OIL is to kiss Cuban ass. Why would you want America to do that?

By the way, I cannot find where Obama spoke or wrote actual words that said to stop oil drilling by 2012. Where did you read this?

Finally, if oil drilling was so popular, why aren't leading Reps in the headlines today pushing for it? I have not heard much on this issue in the last year. I suspect that fewer people care about it since then. Since Reps are no longer pushing to drill in Alaska, do they too hate America?

    Wreckhog,
   I suspect you are intentionally pretending you are in a closet somewhere and unaware of the progressive agenda. Otherwise you should have ended your statement with a big, hearty...DUH ! There is no question the progressives want to hurt & damage the US..just look at their track record. It is they who put offshore drilling off limits, and Obama who boasted his Chicago gang would "break the coal industry".
  Just look; it is always the hate America progressives who want to cripple our industries, tax our corporations to death..then go and bow lowly to every foreign, two bit dictator they can find.
   Now..Wreckhog plays dumb and says we should not want to pay Cuba for oil..DUH...We could be drilling and pumping from the same reserves by drilling offshore from Florida. Instead, the progressives do all they can to keep us from energy independence...and keep buying oil at exorbitant rates from our enemies in OPEC
  Then he goes on to compound his sojourn into obliviousness by saying he hasn't heard much about drilling over the last year...well..DUH,DUH,DUH and a fourth DUH ! You don't suppose it may have something to do with half the congress trying to stave off Comminist  takeover of medicine, do you ?  The intelligent members of Congress since they are so outnumbered, have been busy fighting off one Socialist/Marxist power play from a bunch of control freaks called "progressives", ever since that misfit from Chicago took office.
    How did such a misfit take office ?  Well, other cretan misfits lined up like lemmings with damaged chromosones ..to cast their uninformed vote for him and his kind of Chicago gangsterism.

  BTW: Only TM could tie this thread to religion...
    

[steve y]

Ironglow I'm with you. You have to have been a monk in a monestery in Tebet to not be able to see what the progressives have done to this country. I posted the following link in another thread: http://www.shadowstats.com:80/article/hyperinflation-2010 READ IT!!! It is an analysis with every bit of info you need to know what we are faced with because of them. All of it supported with references to government stats and other financial industry stats. With healthcare passage it will seal the deal. Steve

[ironglow]

Steve;
  That is exactly what the progressives want! They want the US as we know it, destroyed. They have visions of rebuilding it in their own political image...a political image that has never worked.
  They are against manufacturing and capitalism because they don't know how to build or create; ..only destroy. Their Bolshevik brethren were eminently adept at destruction, but never quite got the hang of building something great and lasting.

[steve y]

Ironglow I guess they are going to get what they want. When I said READ IT I meant for those others here that either don't believe or can't believe because it is so awful to contemplate. I've read your threads and replies and can tell you get it. Take care. Steve

[ironglow]

  Just look back..progressives have for years done their very best to disarm us. If they could get all the guns away from all the honest people, their final act or rounding up and slaughtering "reactionaries" would be so much easier. Every Marxist regime of any importance had a period when the "purged" resistiors by the millions..The Bolshevics, Mao, Fidel and Pol Pot..
   Things will be like that here, if they can manage it.

  Here's an in troduction to those who would be reactionaries;

  Law enforcement officers & veterans, who love this country the way it is and are ready to defend the Constitution. Anyone who likes the Constitution as our forefathers intended it..have no worries. Those with tyranny in their hearts are already whining..

   This blog outlines thw "Oath Taker's" aims and principles...I have no problem with the Oath Takers..

  http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=279818058&blogId=484777174