Author Topic: first tokarev (Read 3017 times)

lil_hunter12 · « **on:** February 12, 2010, 01:44:23 PM »

i got my first tokarev today i got it for 200 out the door with 140 rounds. is this a good gun? good buy? any opinions appreciated. thanks

Dances with Geoducks · « **Reply #1 on:** February 12, 2010, 03:46:03 PM »

You have to tell us which caliber and model.

I had a pair of CZ-52s that I got for the medium woman.

Then I found out she wasn't strong enough to pull the slides back.

The 7.62x25 may have been the best handgun round ever made.

lil_hunter12 · « **Reply #2 on:** February 12, 2010, 04:11:27 PM »

sorry it is the romanian TTC and also the 7.62x25 caliber. i didnt get home till after dark so i disassembled and cleaned all the gunk out of it. should get to shoot it tommorrow.

Dances with Geoducks · « **Reply #3 on:** February 12, 2010, 08:17:04 PM »

Make sure you get the cast iron firing pin replaced, or at least buy the replacement and have it handy.

For 200 smackers, you done good. I sold mine for $300 each, but they had been modernized and I had ammo and other stuff

lil_hunter12 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 12, 2010, 10:10:31 PM »

ill have to do that. i intend on at least finding a couple more mags. i hope this one shoots like i have heard they are capable of. the finish is almost mint and the bore looks great.

lil_hunter12 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 13, 2010, 08:10:04 AM »

took the pistol out this orning and but about 50-60 rounds through it ran perfectly. shoots about 2 inches high but other than that it functioned flawlessly. i would buy another if funds would allow it.

1911crazy · « **Reply #6 on:** February 15, 2010, 05:01:41 AM »

Right now on the net the Romanian & Polish Tokarev's in 7,62x25 tok are hitting $219 now. There priced the same as the CZ82 in 9mm mak. Anything under that price you did ok. I would suggest buying what you can afford to buy too. It looks like the russian nagants have all ready dried up and i'm sure the CZ82's and the Tokarev's won't last much longer too. Now is the time to get the 7,62x25 tok ammo too in the 1260rd cans.

lil_hunter12 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 15, 2010, 05:43:00 AM »

i could have gotten the nagant revolver with a holster and lanyard for 149 bucks but i didnt much care for it in either looks or the fact that the cylinder was able to spin any time it wasnt at full cock. didnt seem safe to me. i dont buy a gun just to shoot it is also used to pack with me in the hills or in my truck. i have several for this use but if i buy another it is to use the same way and the nagant revolver just didnt appeal to me for those reasons.

Avyctes · « **Reply #8 on:** February 15, 2010, 06:29:56 AM »

Lil_Hunter, you did just fine on the purchase.

Most of them are in the $189-$215 ballpark, with Romanians being on the low end, then Polish, then the Yugo M57s at the high end. Soviet not included because it isn't a readily available surplus in the price range that we're discussing.

Add another $10-$15 for shipping

Add $10 for a hand pick.

Add another $20 - $25 for the two boxes of ammo if you order it.

Add 2% if you use a credit card when ordering from most outfits (SOG for sure).

Also, I don't believe there is a need to replace the firing pin. I think we are confusing the CZ52 with the TTC. The Cz52 is supposed to have a brittle firing pin, and it is recommended not to dry fire that particular pistol. I haven't heard anything similar about the TTC. I did buy a spring kit for mine, and I recommend replacing the springs in these old guns if they need it. If it operated fine when you test fire it, what the heck, shoot it. But you might go ahead and do the springs, because if there is any wear and tear on your main recoil spring, it isn't good to the frame, and the new spring will protect your gun as well as taming the recoil a bit.

You basically got a mint one with free shipping, free handpick, and two boxes of ammo for free.

All in all, a great deal in my book.

Did you get a minty holster along with the pistol?

Mine came with an unissued holster, an extra mag and a cleaning rod.

lil_hunter12 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 15, 2010, 08:22:45 AM »

no it just came with 1 mad and 2 boxes of shells. id like to find a nice holster for it. preferably for a lefty if possible. anyone know where i might find one?

Avyctes · « **Reply #10 on:** February 16, 2010, 04:17:46 AM »

Aside from outfits like Numrich, et al, your best bet is probably Gunbroker, ArmsBid, GunsAmerica, Ebay. I bought three mint makarov (Soviet issue) military full flap holsters off ebay, buy-it-now for $15 for all 3. Used them for Pa63s. There are tons of Tokarev holsters on there, from wore out ones to mint military issue from the 60s to original soviet officer issue from WW2, straight from Russia. Just depends on what you want. But, these are all right handed. If you can find a left hand 1911 holster, that will work. The frame of the TTC is slightly smaller in width, but my TTC fits very nice in my mil-spec m9 1911 shoulder holster.

Good luck and enjoy your new TTC!

lil_hunter12 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 17, 2010, 03:09:21 PM »

thanks ill check around for holsters (especially ebay) and i love this little pistol it has replaced my .38 snubby for my truck gun not that it is more reliable but i just like it better.

Dances with Geoducks · « **Reply #12 on:** February 17, 2010, 06:51:17 PM »

Quote from: lil_hunter12 on February 13, 2010, 08:10:04 AM

shoots about 2 inches high

Remember it has a 50 meter zero.

lil_hunter12 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 18, 2010, 09:25:20 AM »

im glad it has that 50 meter zero because most of my shooting will b around 50 or so yards.

Ex 49'er · « **Reply #14 on:** February 20, 2010, 06:34:18 PM »

Do any of the Toks come with stainless or chromed barrels? Corrosive ammo can be a booger.

MGMorden · « **Reply #15 on:** February 20, 2010, 07:54:26 PM »

I'm actually thinking of grabbing one of these before they dry up. Century is definatley getting low on them already. Last time I had checked there (a week or two ago) they had both Romanian and Polish in Good, Very Good, and Excellent Condition. Now they just list Romanian in Good, and Polish in Good and Very Good. When I try to add Romanian Good to the cart is says it's "Temporarily Coming Soon".

I already got the CZ52, CZ82, and the Nagant, so this seems like the next thing to jump on in Surplus Handguns. Not sure there's much left after the current stuff dries up though. Seems like a lot of what is getting imported is police trade-ins these days, most of which is not C&R. Kinda dissappointing as the cheaper surplus guns are the main reason I maintain my license. The higher priced one-off stuff is usually high enough that the $15 my dealer charges for a transfer really wouldn't make much difference.

Mikey · « **Reply #16 on:** February 21, 2010, 02:04:59 AM »

Ex 49'r: don't use the corrosive ammo, it is most often sub-machine gun ammo and higher pressure than the pistol ammo. The Sellier and Bellot 7.62x25mm pistol ammo is about the best 'new manufacture' ammo out there. I don't know if PRVI makes the 7.62 Tok stuff but Fiocchi makes the 30 Mauser loads which work the Tok just fine.

For the best quality ammo for your Tok on this side of the big pond, Ron Reed, one of our sponsors and a Graybeard Moderator, manufactures 13 different 7.62x25mm loadings and identifies which loadings are the best for the Toks or for the CZ52s.

As for barrels - I think either SAMCO, SARCO or Gun Parts America carries spare Tok barrels but you may need to ask if they come with link and link pin - if not, get some as they are inexpensive.

MGMorden - grab one while you can. Either the Romanian or the Polish are excellent choices - both are quality mil-surp handguns.

lil_hunter: the Tok will shoot flat to 100 yds but most military specifications provide for a 50 yd max effective range on handguns and you will/should find your sights regulated for that distance. HTH.

lil_hunter12 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 21, 2010, 01:22:24 PM »

i havent shot at much over 60-70 yards and it hits where i hold it so im sure it will hit at 100.also is wolf the only manufacturer of hollowpoint ammo for these guns?

Mikey · « **Reply #18 on:** February 22, 2010, 12:35:36 AM »

lil_hunter: check Ron Reed's website to see if he makes any hollowpointed loads for the Tok.

1911crazy · « **Reply #19 on:** February 22, 2010, 05:07:31 AM »

Are you going to collect more of the tokarev pistols or stay with just one for now?

I'm just wondering about how many different tokarev pistols are there?

1.Russian 7,62x25
2.Romanian 7,62x25
3.Polish 7,62x25
4.Chinese 7,62x25
5. Chinese 9mm luger
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?
ect.

MGMorden · « **Reply #20 on:** February 22, 2010, 06:18:39 AM »

Quote from: 1911crazy on February 22, 2010, 05:07:31 AM

Are you going to collect more of the tokarev pistols or stay with just one for now?

I'm just wondering about how many different tokarev pistols are there?

1.Russian 7,62x25
2.Romanian 7,62x25
3.Polish 7,62x25
4.Chinese 7,62x25
5. Chinese 9mm luger
6. ?
7. ?
8. ?
ect.

The Zastava M88 (in 9mm Luger) that EAA is importing right now is called a "Baby Tokarev" by many and shares many design features from my understanding. Didn't think there was that much market in today's world for a new single-stack single-action 9mm, but they're still making them. They seem to run around $250. Sarco almost got my hopes up with them a while back though. Had some for $188 and they listed them in the ad as C&R eligible, but after some phone calls I found out that it was a misprint and they were not C&R

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lil_hunter12 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 22, 2010, 06:29:01 AM »

i am just staying with the one for now i cant afford to buy more or id buy another in 7.62x25 and one in 9x18 since i know where i can get several for around 200 bucks. also i have checked ron reeds site he does list hollowpoints and i think a softpoint also but i didnt really want to give 25 or 30 a box for this pistol since i shoot it alot.

1911crazy · « **Reply #22 on:** February 22, 2010, 01:44:45 PM »

There is still some Polish and Yugo 7,62x25 1260rd cans being offered and i think that most are around $120.

lil_hunter12 · « **Reply #23 on:** February 22, 2010, 03:25:15 PM »

i can get 70 round boxes for about 9 bucks where i got the gun i actually bought 3 boxes today but i was hoping to find a source of hollowpoint ammo so i can legally hunt coyote with it.

Mikey · « **Reply #24 on:** February 23, 2010, 01:49:32 AM »

Crazy: don't forget the TokEgypt and I think the Iraqis also made their own version of the Tok.

lil_hunter: if you are looking for a specific style of bullet in your ammo you may have to begin reloading. I suggest new Starline brass or once fired S&B brass. Hornady and Sierra both make a 85-86 gn round nose soft point bullet for the Tok and Lane Pearce just ran a article in Shooting Times on reloading bottlenecked pistol cartridges and I think the guy is fulla crap: for Tokarev loads he uses a 93 gn fmj bullet, which by weight is for the 30/7.65 Luger and runs to .310 diameter while for the CZ52s he uses the correct weight and diameter bullet (85 gn and .308 diameter) and runs them hot. Why he failed to use the correct weight and diameter bullet for his Tokarev loading, which is more in line with the 30/7.65 Luger loading is beyond me, unless he doesn't know what the hay he is talking about.

If you decide to reload the 7.62x25mm Tokarev round, get a RCBS set. jmtcw.

lrs · « **Reply #25 on:** April 29, 2010, 12:47:29 PM »

I just picked one up. I have some 7.62 x 25 ammo, mil surp. Is this too hot of a round for the tokarev.
I also have some Fiocchi .30 Mauser, for a broomhandle mauser I used to have.
It was mentioned earlier.
Is this OK for the tokarev?

Mikey · « **Reply #26 on:** April 30, 2010, 01:47:55 AM »

The 30 Mauser ammo is fine for the Tok. For the surplus, I would pull the bullets, which may be undersized anyhow, and re-charge them with a good powder charge. Most of the mil-surp 7.62x25mm ammo is sub-gun stuff which runs too hot for pistols.

lrs · « **Reply #27 on:** May 14, 2010, 06:29:08 AM »

Has the mil-surp supply ran dry. I can't seem to locate any.

lil_hunter12 · « **Reply #28 on:** May 14, 2010, 07:31:59 AM »

i dont know if it has or not i havent had time or money to get out and shoot or buy ammo.

1911crazy · « **Reply #29 on:** May 14, 2010, 04:12:02 PM »

There still is plenty of 7,62x25 ammo out there i been buying up the 1260rd cases every month.