rebarreling mosin nagant to .44 magnum

[hesco]

  anyone rebarreled a nagant, was looking into doing one in .44 mag should work fine with no other mods the bolt recess is a little large, still looks like it extract fine, even feeds the .44mags from the magazine.

[Langfur Buchsen]

blocking the rear of the mag to hold 44s securely and making a replacement spring & follower for the shorter cartridges would be the hurdle...

but... & I'm interested to know... why?

[hesco]

 Why, cuz i live in a disalousioned state ,indiana, rifle cartriges are legal to hunt deer with in a handgun, but only pistol cartriges are legal in a rifle, their are a lot of nagants with corroded out barrels that would be perfect for this project.

[TNyoteboy]

Why, cuz i live in a disalousioned state ,indiana, rifle cartriges are legal to hunt deer with in a handgun, but only pistol cartriges are legal in a rifle, their are a lot of nagants with corroded out barrels that would be perfect for this project.

Well that's ass backwards?

[jlwilliams]

  I looked into doing this a while back, never got to the front of the list.  I think it will work fine.  You won't need to do anything to the magazine.  Just rebarrel the rifle and go.  Only down side I can see is that if you don't have a lathe, the cost of buying a blank and having it turned and threaded to fit the action may be more than the cost of a used 44 mag rifle (like a marlin or something) or even a new Handi.  If, on the other hand, you can do it yourself for the cost of the barrel and the time then you're coming out ahead.  The Mosin Nagant can take more pressure than the 44 mag is gonna dish out.

  Mosins are cheap enough guns.  You can save yourself some issues by starting with one in reasonable condition.  While you could start with one with a sewer pipe barrel,  the rest of the gun will be well worn too.  You can pick up M-44 types (carbine length with atatched bayonet) in great shape for under a hundred bucks.  Start with one that's not all shot out and you won't have problems with the extractor or anything like that.

  Rifle caliber pistols and pistol caliber rifles.  OK. Well, that's government for ya'

[hesco]

   Was looking at the ruger 77/44 but their a lot of $$$$$ have a lathe, now if i can find a nagant for around a hundred or less. and a barrel.

[jlwilliams]

  gunparts had 44 mag barrel blanks for reasonable money not too long ago.  I'd give them a try.  You can probably find a deal on a Mosin with a WTB add.  People who have bought one (or two) and fallen out of love with them often have trouble selling or even finding a store to take the consignment because there are so amny on the market .  If you want to sell for a hundred bucks, add on a consignment fee and you are now over the price of the next one down the gun rack.  If you have a C&R you can get one without paying a transfer fee, otherwise put out a WTB add and try for an in state face to face deal.

  I'd offer to sell one of mine, but by the time you get it shipped and pay a tranfer.......

[jburris2001]

I'm wanting to do this also. dunhams had the nagants for 89.99 the other day. I just have to find a barrel blank.

[fireball168]

I just have to find a barrel blank.

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=593070&catid=6748

I'd be more inclined to go with this one I think:

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=585600&catid=6748

If my notes are accurate, the barrel tenon is .980-16, and .937 long.  The cylinder portion ahead of the tenon is tapered from 1.182-1.090 over 1.93".  Then a radius to .775".

Either of those blanks would work.

[Lon371]

hesco

 Wish you would have posted a month ago. I sold one for $100 with aftermarket stock and bipod. Where are you In Indiana? Couple gun shops down here have them and the pawn shops.

Lonny

[hesco]

  nabb, indiana. went to orion arms,  and several pawn shops today looking.

[Lon371]

  nabb, indiana. went to orion arms,  and several pawn shops today looking.

Nobody is from NABB Just kidding. That is a big city you have over there.  My inlaws live down town Nabb . Father In Law is Raymond Adams.

Lonny

[wtroger]

Do it in a 500 SW the bolt face is the right size. I did one and it shoots very well the only real challenge is getting it to feed. But it can be done. Talk about knock down power. I used a Polish made model 44 those are around for less than a $100.00. Be warned that getting the old barrel off is a chore they are screwed on tight but once again it can be done

[mcwoodduck]

What is the PSI of 500 S&W and what is the PSI of 7.62X54R?
The Nagant is not a real strong action.
My fear would be the bolt sheering off and becoming an auto ejector while your head is still down on the stock.

[hesco]

  operating pressure for the 7.6x54 is 40,000 to 45,000  best info i could get on the 500 was over 50,000 could be loaded down. 44 mag saami max is 36,000.

[mcwoodduck]

I did not think 44 Mag wouold be a problem but was not sure about the 500S&W.

[jlwilliams]

I did not think 44 Mag wouold be a problem but was not sure about the 500S&W.

  I'm thinking the same.

[Hooker]

How about a 357 Max?
With cartridge length of about 2 1/4 inches and the ability to use spire point bullets it would make a sweet conversion.

Pat

[Vassal]

For what its worth, this site lists the EURO standards. They are a bit higher than SAAMI sometimes. This info seems to imply that (if teh 500 IS 50) a solid MOSIN action would be fine for the 500SW. The Bolt face is only about .005 off!! HMMMMMMM.


http://kwk.us/pressures.html

If one did a 44mag Why not use the length and go 444!

DISCLAIMER: I have no idea what I am talking about. Following my suggestions or advice has often proven to be a bad decision.

[Lon371]

 Vassal

If one did a 44mag Why not use the length and go 444!

The reason the .44 and the 500 was thought about is because of Indiana Deer hunting rules.

[Airsporter]

 I'd be more inclined to go with this one I think:

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=585600&catid=6748 [/quote]

Be careful.  The NEF handi's had oversize bores for a while.

[Freezer]

Ok, your making a nagant sporter.  What will you do about the trigger and safety?

[mitchell]

wouldnt the bolt face be a problem the 44mag is .514 the 762x54r is .567 any ideas

[gunnut69]

There was a piece in an old 'GunDigest'(Gunlist) by Reid Coffield I think that's where I saw it and he converted a Nagant to a sporter. He sawed the bolt handle off (cut off grinder) and welded a new one onto the bolt body behind the receiver ring(memory lapse but maybe wrapped around the bolt ala remington 700). A notch was cut down into the wall on the right of the receiver behind the receiver ring to provided a safety lug. Being bent it also allowed the low mounting of a scope(side mount).. The safety of the Nagant should work ok as is for a scope.. I know of no replacement for the trigger so it will have to be worked and used. It should suffice nicely for such a short range round as we are discussing..

[Airsporter]

I know of no replacement for the trigger so it will have to be worked and used. It should suffice nicely for such a short range round as we are discussing..

http://timneytriggers.com/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=50

[hesco]

wouldnt the bolt face be a problem the 44mag is .514 the 762x54r is .567 any ideas

   the case will self center on the bolt when chambered, will just have extra clearance around the bolt recess.

[Freezer]

Ok... thet finially have a decent trigger and safety.  Why 44 mag and not 454 casual?

[D Humbarger]

Why, cuz i live in a disalousioned state ,indiana, rifle cartriges are legal to hunt deer with in a handgun,

In that case I would consider doing a 375 JDJ. / 375x444.  It should feed fine in that Rushkiy

[Lon371]

Why, cuz i live in a disalousioned state ,indiana, rifle cartriges are legal to hunt deer with in a handgun,

In that case I would consider doing a 375 JDJ. / 375x444.  It should feed fine in that Rushkiy

 They do not qualify for Indiana Deer rifle. Case length rules (Rifles must fire a cartridge with a bullet of .357-inch diameter or larger; have a minimum case length of 1.16 inches; and have a maximum case length of 1.625 inches.)

Lonny

[jlwilliams]

  They sure do have some specific ideas of what they want you to shoot.  I think the OP is right on with the 44 magnum.  Two simple but irrefutable reasons; it's legal and effective.  Add to that the availability of 44 mag ammo and components and it's a hands down winner.