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Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« on: September 12, 2009, 03:20:15 PM »
Guys I will be hunting this deer season with my older Horton Yukon SL, but am looking towards the following year, needing a more powerful X-bow.   I am getting a bit confused or maybe just having a hard time deciding the advantages of one brand over another, or a recurve over a compound.   I kow everyone has their preferences, but honestly, are any of the major brands really a better quality, or more accurate x-bow than another?   
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Re: Barnett, Excalibur, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2009, 03:31:25 PM »
You should look at tenpoint and Excalibur, they are the top two crossbow makers.
I think the better of the two is ten point because they are made in the US and Excalibur is in Canada (lets support our country first)
They both have great customer service.
I like the ten point's  acudraw because it stays on the bow and only needs a small crank handle to be carried extra.
It makes it very easy to draw back the bow my 9 year old son can draw back my ten point phantom with it with out any issues

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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2009, 04:43:42 PM »
  Mark, I have the PSE Copperhead 150lb draw that I just sighted in to the tree stand today. Kind of a cheap price but a very good crossbow. It still has the pin sight, I dislike the red dot and scope, but this thing keeps its mark and I am very impressed. I have used a Barnett and Horton, but as of now, the PSE gets my vote...... Mark< PM me  :)

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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2009, 03:16:59 AM »
hey mark, I just bought a ten point proslider and love it, its really accurate up to 40 yrds, i have not shot it past 40 yrds yet and prolly wont but for the price its an awesome crossbow, and its also adjustable from 125 -150 -175 pound pull and the scope it came with has the 3 lines in it and they are right on the money from 20,30,40 yrds. I highly recommend this bow. Good luck with your decision and happy hunting.

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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2009, 01:17:39 PM »
Thanks for the replys guys.  I will hunt this seasn with my Horton, but wanted something with a heavier draw than #150, and something a bit newer than this one I have now.   I will give Ten Point a look, as well as the others.   
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Re: Barnett, Excalibur, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2009, 02:29:00 PM »
You should look at tenpoint and Excalibur, they are the top two crossbow makers.
I think the better of the two is ten point because they are made in the US and Excalibur is in Canada (lets support our country first)
They both have great customer service.
I like the ten point's  acudraw because it stays on the bow and only needs a small crank handle to be carried extra.
It makes it very easy to draw back the bow my 9 year old son can draw back my ten point phantom with it with out any issues
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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2009, 03:28:51 PM »
I have to go with Ten Point. I have a "Hunter", precursor to Ten Point, that I wanted to get ready for the upcoming archery season in Ohio. I must have had it in a storage case, unused since before my liver transplant for the past 10 years ago. I live about 1/2 drive away from Ten Point HQS (they are in Suffield, OH). I dropped the bow off for a safety inspection. For a very reasonable fee they replaced the limbs, cables, and string. The folks there are really first class, friendly, avid sportspeople, and 100% customer service oriented. I would recommend Ten Point to anyone. The products, and people behind the products, are first class.

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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2009, 03:55:27 AM »
when I got my phantom (one of the first to come off the line) I had a lot of issues with it the people at ten point where great and worked with me very well and made everything right and then some.

keep in mind that every maker can turn out a bad product from time to time, that  isn't the issue it is how they company deals with the bad product and ten point is  a stand up company

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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2009, 02:29:43 PM »
I bought my first crossbow this year and researched, handled, and shot many of the top quality bows.  I bought the TenPoint and am VERY happy with my selection.  Things that influenced my decision: customer service reputation, best trigger, anti dry fire, among the lightest, built in AccuDraw (old & getting older!), and felt best balanced to me.  I took the advice of several "experts" and shot and handled several; I think it was good advice.  Its a tack driver and I'm happy!
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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2009, 05:44:34 AM »
  I got an Excaliber because they are well made and I like recurves better that compounds,but that's just me.
   I think any of the quality bow's on the market should work good,just depends on what ya like.



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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2009, 05:08:21 PM »
Like plinker said;any one of the top brands will do you a good job.It's just what you happen to like.Myself I use a Barnett "Rhino" Mag and am well satisfied with it.Never had any problem whatever.It will stay in a 6" circle at 35 yrds all-day-long........Rick
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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2009, 02:03:49 PM »
I have had through the yrs all types of crossbows, and hunted and harvested all kinds of critters from Deer to woodchucks. IMOP it is really hard to beat excalibur crossbows, 2nd would be ten-point , 3rd horton,
4th parker 5th crossman new line of bows. I love the Excalibur line for tuff ,accurate, and ease of maintance. One string is all their is on Excalibur. Great Bow and company. Heck Ted Nugent shoots them as well. Don't let anyone kid Excalibur rocks I know by some of the deer I have killed with them through the years. ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Barnett, Excalibur, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2009, 05:10:01 PM »
there are two main reasons tenpoint is better then Excalibur
1) the accudraw. it makes it so that anyone can cock back the bow. it is all on the bow except the crank.

2) it is made in the US of A  IF something is wrong with it you can ship it straight to the maker with out having to go trough customs or any red tape  and you are supporting American workers that is of course unless you live in Canada

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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2009, 10:59:35 AM »
I just purchased my 1st xbow, so certainly no experienced opinion to give.  I read up as much as I could on different bows and it really came down to 10pt and Excal.  I went with the Excal Exocet package.  Gotta say, I am thrilled with the out of the box accuracy, love their scope and it has a real nice trigger.  Since I am in Michigan, and xbow hunting was just made legal during archery season, there are few that have been shooting xbows....so none to try.  But they are selling great now and it will be interesting to see what happens at the end of the 3 year trial period.

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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2009, 08:25:14 AM »
I found a higher end Horton  ( at the time been a number of years now) sitting on a shelf at a local shop and was missing a number of parts ( little parts my guess is the guy bought it and momma came home and said no while he was putting it together but anyways) so i took out the parts list that was in the box and wrote down everything it would need to make it work again .. Contacted Horton via email with an inquirery on the availability and cost of said parts with their proper numbers and left my number and address so it would be easier for them to get back to me.. A week and a few days pass and i get a good sized package in the mail from Horton ... They never contacted me back , just sent all the parts i had asked about to me at no cost...

 I respond to that kind of customer service ... So Horton has my vote , Been around a good while , you can always find their bolts for sale any place including wal mart , which is a major plus should you find your quiver missing at 2 in the morning before opening day ;)

 Not saying that any others are bad but seems to me that man has been killing these same animals with far less for thousands of years , Do you really need X-bow that costs the same as a browning rifle to continue to do so  ;) 

  I also run a Yukon SL with a pin and peep sight setup , gold tip bolts and muzzy 125s... Good luck in the woods guys.



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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2009, 04:05:24 PM »
Shoot, you can spend a thousand bucks on a recurve now days.  I have taken deer with recurve, compound, pistol and rifle.  I figure why not try a xbow.

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Re: Barnett, Excalibur, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2009, 09:00:54 AM »
there are two main reasons tenpoint is better then Excalibur
1) the accudraw. it makes it so that anyone can cock back the bow. it is all on the bow except the crank.

2) it is made in the US of A  IF something is wrong with it you can ship it straight to the maker with out having to go trough customs or any red tape  and you are supporting American workers that is of course unless you live in Canada

Way off the mark, bud, but then you bought a $2000 xbow.  Excals warranty rep in the USA is Danny Miller, Sardis,Oh. [740] 483-2312. No return authorizations, warranty cards, serial numbers, number of previous owners, secretaries, ect.  He does what minor warranty work that comes up on the spot.

Brand loyalty is one thing, but get your facts straight.

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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2009, 04:00:03 AM »
Sorry Dude, I  do have my facts straight

ten point is made in the USA so the money stayes in the USA so you are supporting American workers, Excalibur is made in Canada so the money goes to Canada and you are supporting Canadian workers.

ten point also has authorized repair centers that can do warranty work but if you want to send it back to the  bow maker it goes to Ohio if you ship a Excalibur back to the maker it has to go to Canada.   I didn't say the bow has to go back to the maker I said if something goes wrong with it you CAN ship it straight to the maker. If you ship something to a norther country you have to go trough customs and declare what it is and red tape.

On a side note with out any S/N if your bow is stolen how could you prove it is yours?  With a S/N  you may be able to call the maker and get when it was built and maybe even some of it's history that is  if the bow maker keeps the records.

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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2009, 05:59:54 AM »
Having owned a Horton and Excalibur, I am going to have to clearly side with the Excalibur for a few reasons. With that being said, I do not have any experience with TenPoint. The most recent issue that I had with my Horton was there would be a minimum 2-3 week wait until any warranty repair person could even look at my crossbow, and that is if I hand delivered it to Horton's Factory personally. In regards to the Excalibur, Danny Miller (located in Ohio) will ensure quick repair, and Excalibur stands behind their products....PERIOD. Not saying other companies don't, but I am the type of consumer that expects performance out of my purchases, and if I have problems I want fast results/repairs. Excalibur, has a similar cranking device to TenPoint's device to cock their crossbows, so if pulling these cables back is difficult, Excalibur has you covered. One of the major pluses in my eyes, besides the unmatched accuracy delivered by Excalibur, is that it has easy maintenance. I can change the cable on my Excalibur with factory standard issued equipment, quicker that you can say "I need a crossbow press for my TenPoint, do you know anyone who has one, and how much does it cost for an Archery shop to re-string my TenPoint?" I like a crossbow that if needed in the field, most of the repairs can be dealt without having to seek out a Archery Shop only to find they don't have the parts you need. The Excalibur definitely deserves a long hard look if you are considering a crossbow purchase. Oh, and if their is any question to which crossbows dominate in accuracy, here it is.

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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2009, 06:09:06 AM »
My first xbow was a Barnett 150 lbs.It is okay,but I LOVE my Excalibur Phoenix. I can HIGHLY recommend it.Search ebay for some good deals.

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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2009, 06:18:32 PM »
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if you ship a Excalibur back to the maker it has to go to Canada.   I didn't say the bow has to go back to the maker I said if something goes wrong with it you CAN ship it straight to the maker.

Look, you do not send Excaliburs back to Canada from the USA under any circumstances, they go to Miller in Ohio.

I splintered a limb a few years ago w/ one dry fire to many, mailed it to Miller on a Monday, got it back on that same Friday.  He replaced both limbs even though only one was splintered, replaced both dissipator bars and put new dissipator pads on it.  Cost: $7 shipping one way.

That 3x Proview you have is made in a 3rd world emirate just like the Excal scopes.  Personal attack removed by Graybeard. Let's have NO MORE.

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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2009, 12:05:20 AM »
I have a parker safari magnum that I purchased a few years ago that I am very pleased with. Helped a guy sight in a horton one time and other than that I haven't had any dealings with any other brand. The only thing I have had to do is replace a string. Looking over the previous posts There has been a lot of discussion about being made in the U.S.A. Well Parker I  believe is made in Mint Springs Virginia. Based on my satisfaction with my safari magnun I would highly recommend the Parker crossbows.

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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2009, 03:54:53 PM »
I bought a PSE Viper and at first I was having some trouble with accuracy. It has the adjustable sight on the back where you mount a scope. The recoil from shooting would make the rail adjust up one notch after every shot. I would have to make sure that it was reset after evry shot. I didn't like that so I drilled the mount on the sides for set screws so that I could lock it (the mount) in one fixed position. I put a Easton 3 Dot scope on the crossbow and it made a big change.  It can now shoot 4 bolts in about a 1 1/2" group at fourty yards.  At twenty yards, the crossbow will shoot 4 bolts with all of them touching each other.   I think what gives some of the lesser price crossbows a bad report is maybe the sighting system. 

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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2009, 07:36:59 AM »
Bowtech is a great bow also.

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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2010, 12:27:23 PM »
I've also been looking into crossbows. I really like the TenPoint, Titan HLX, with the Pro40 Multi-Dot Scope, and the full ACUdraw. Do you crossbow shooters/archers (not sure if shooting a crossbow is considered archery) have any comments about this particular model? Seems it can be had for a decent price and I've heard that the TenPoint line is pretty choice. I know RickyP approves of them.
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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2010, 12:59:37 PM »
Parker Tornado would be a nice choice. It has a retail of 699 shoots 330 FPS with a 425 grain arrow, has a great warranty. It feels nice when you hold it. Other than that Id wait for the new model year, Many new choices.

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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2010, 01:33:05 AM »
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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2010, 02:22:28 PM »
With all the new models it should make more choices and fit everyones budget for a quality bow.

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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2010, 09:19:43 AM »
I was a big time Horton fan, had 3 of there crossbows. I now shoot a Parker Cyclone Extreme, love it. Made in the USA.....
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Re: Barnett, Excaliber, Ten Point, PSE, Horton???
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2010, 04:53:06 AM »
I got a good deal on barnett predator from midsouth shooter.  love it.  came with scope and bolts.  Shoots fast and accurate.