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Ordering New Barrels
« on: April 05, 2009, 05:44:29 PM »
Can I order 22 hornet and 357 mag barrels without sights? If so will they send scope rail and hammer extension instead?   
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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2009, 04:19:41 AM »
I would call and talk with a csr, tell them what you want and check to see if they had your barrels in stock.
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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2009, 10:04:58 AM »
Quote from: bigvarmnt on April 05, 2009, 05:44:29 PM
Can I order 22 hornet and 357 mag barrels without sights? If so will they send scope rail and hammer extension instead?   

IIRC, that is the only way that they come now....... At least that is the case for the 357Mag.

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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2009, 11:04:16 AM »
Quote from: cwlongshot on April 06, 2009, 10:04:58 AM
Quote from: bigvarmnt on April 05, 2009, 05:44:29 PM
Can I order 22 hornet and 357 mag barrels without sights? If so will they send scope rail and hammer extension instead?   

IIRC, that is the only way that they come now....... At least that is the case for the 357Mag.

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Not what it said on their web site.
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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2009, 02:42:51 PM »
The site I was on says Support Accessory Program. I've had that in Favs a couple of years. I don't know if it could have changed to anything newer. Tim gave me a link to the new 44 & 357 guns I had never seen. He also said a member recieved a barrel that should have had sights but didn't. He didn't know if they would all be that way now or not. I will have to try to call them. Hope I get a straight-correct  answer from them. Thought someone may know here by now. Thanks!
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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2009, 02:50:40 PM »
They've changed their practices before without making changes on the website, the 45-70 barrel without sights may have been a mistake, I dunno, haven't had any feedback on it yet. But the 357 and 44 accessory barrels are listed with sights, the complete rifles are slick barrels, just have a scope rail.

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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2009, 04:20:08 PM »
Thanks Tim that's all I could figure also. They say they are not a custom shop. Has anyone ever been able to get them to fit a barrel without sights that they show on the website as having sights???? That's what I want to know. That's the best way I can figure to ask the question.
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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2009, 04:36:35 PM »
Gardner would supply barrels with or without sights, those that normally came with sights could be ordered without them and a scope rail instead, but you didn't get a discount. Or you could order plain barrels with sights added for an additional $47. I've ordered a 45-70 barrel with a scope rail instead of sights, but it cost the same as the barrel with sights, so I got less for my money, I should have just spent the extra $18 for the scope rail and extension and got the sights too. What Ilion(Remington) will do may be an entirely different matter tho.

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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2009, 05:18:17 PM »
OK! I can't see the sights with these eyes. Can I remove the F.& R. sights with a screw on the 22" hornet barrel and other sighted barrels? I've only had clean barrels so far. If you order it without sights will the barrel be tapped where the front and rear sights would have been?  Is there a name in  cust. serv. that can be trusted to know the correct answers to all questions. I think I read somewhere that a woman or someone gave answers that may have been incorrect. I hope I'm not pestering you too much. Thank you for your help!  Mike
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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2009, 06:21:44 PM »
Sights are screw mounted, so yes, they can be removed, all rifle barrels are drilled and tapped for a scope mount, even those that come with sights.....unless they've changed that.  ;)

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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2009, 09:29:58 AM »
Quote from: bigvarmnt on April 05, 2009, 05:44:29 PM
Can I order 22 hornet and 357 mag barrels without sights? If so will they send scope rail and hammer extension instead?   

Just got off the phone with H&R. I had sent in the action for a 357 barrel, which when I called before I sent in the
action they said they had. Now they don't have any and say when they will come in they WILL NOT have sights, but
will come with scope rails. Won't honor what the web sight says.

Switched my order to another barrel that did come with sights.
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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2009, 11:18:23 AM »
I spoke with them yesterday regarding a 44 mag barrel I ordered back in early February (they expect some to arrive "shortly").  I wanted one with sights but was told they are available with scope rails only and they won't install sights.  The rep I spoke with had to check on answers to several questions, and at one point told me they don't recommend installing sights (!), but later retracted that statement.  Pleasant fellow, but not completely up to speed.
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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2009, 02:12:45 PM »
Guess I lost a reply a while ago. Al Gore must have snatched it. Got my 44 mag today with sights.  :) I can take the sights off and take a rail off a barrel I'm not using right now. I have a couple of n.i.b. ext. from my last barrels. Gander Mount. guy said he had a dozen 44's  HX with sights in the back room. $249.97 and take an additional 10% off. Think I'll switch dies and roll a couple. Having a HAPPY HANDI DAY! Didn't even get a delay this time :o
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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2009, 02:49:59 PM »
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I spoke with them yesterday regarding a 44 mag barrel I ordered back in early February (they expect some to arrive "shortly"). 

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Just got off the phone with H&R. I had sent in the action for a 357 barrel, which when I called before I sent in the
action they said they had. Now they don't have any

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The rep I spoke with had to check on answers to several questions, and at one point told me ..............., but later retracted that statement.  Pleasant fellow, but not completely up to speed.



Sounds familiar.  BAD BAD BAD

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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2009, 09:47:04 AM »
Just got off the phone with Remington.  Was told that my February order of a 44 mag barrel will not be filled as the decision was made last week to discontinue the 44 mag offering, dern it.
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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2009, 01:37:41 PM »
 ??? Man sounds like a bad circus ride. The transition has to be difficult. I am not sure about the 44 Mag thing being discontinued though... lets hope it's just another miscommunication  :-\




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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2009, 01:45:53 PM »
I have a query in on the 44mag barrels, should have an answer tomorrow or Monday, it wouldn't be the first time they've time they've shared misinfo or misunderstood the question or product they were referring to.   ??? They've also discontinued popular offerings only to bring them back, IE 357mag, 22 Hornet, 35 Whelen.  :-\

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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2009, 04:01:05 PM »
I've been afraid they would stop offering the 357 before I get one, and hornet. Would not be the first time people stopped a good thing. Did someone just say on here in the last couple days that they have 357 barrels in stock NOW? I'm loosing track (of my old mind)... Guess I'll go back and try to find the post if it exists. Might go outside and see how much flame comes out of my 44 barrel at night. My form of Self Medication ;D
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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2009, 08:21:54 AM »
Here's the latest info from Remington.....44mag barrels are NOT discontinued, BUT, they are no longer available with sights as stated on the accessory barrel list, basically any barrel offered on a complete rifle is available on the accessory barrel list, since the SB1 44mag and SB1 357mag come without sights now, that's how they are available as an accessory barrel, scope rail only, H&R will be updating the website.

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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #19 on: April 24, 2009, 11:05:36 AM »
Thanks for clearing that up Tim. Well I suppose thats a little bittersweet.
 Good they are keeping it, sucks they are lossing the open sights.
O well most of us scope them out eventually any way so...





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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #20 on: April 24, 2009, 05:32:10 PM »
Here's the latest info from Remington.....44mag barrels are NOT discontinued, BUT, they are no longer available with sights as stated on the accessory barrel list, basically any barrel offered on a complete rifle is available on the accessory barrel list, since the SB1 44mag and SB1 357mag come without sights now, that's how they are available as an accessory barrel, scope rail only, H&R will be updating the website.

Tim

That is what I was told about 1 1/2 weeks ago, as well, and that they would install front sights for $65 extra.  Then this week was told no more 44 mags at all.  I've made 3 calls and gotten 3 different answers.
I'll try again next week, as the fellow who told me no more 44 mags said I needed to either order a different barrel or else they would have to ship my receiver back.
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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #21 on: April 24, 2009, 05:44:16 PM »
My information comes direct from a Remington/H&R representative by email,  don't waste your time on the phone.  ;)

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« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2009, 04:33:19 AM »
I just got my SB2 receiver back from Remington on Friday.  Fitted to it was a 7mm-08.

I picked up the phone in early December, and verified the 357mag and 44mag barrels were in stock.  They declined my offer to pay up-front for the barrels, and cover the fitting later.  I told them I would be overnighting my receiver that day, which I did calling with my tracking number, and to put both barrels aside.

I called them three weeks after they received the action into the nifty e-checkable repair system.  After that I called every two weeks till March, then started to call every week.  I was tired of having sunshine blown up my ass about the availability of the barrels.  I kept getting, "they are in stock" "should be another week, we are waiting on the supplier"  Finally I got a guy two weeks ago that flat out said, "they are not in, and we have no clue when they will be ready"  Even went onto say that the company was looking into machinery to make their own barrels because of their current supply issues.  Time till barrels are ready... god only knows.

So I changed my order to a .308 bull ultra and was told to call in a couple days for a status, as the barrel showed "in stock."  I called back, and sure enough... no .308.  So I settled on the 7mm-08, just to get my rifle back in my hands.  2-days later I get notification that the rifle had shipped.  I finally, after almost 4 FULL months of waiting, am able to shoot my rifle again.  Granted it is not in the caliber I initially wanted for specific reasons, but oh well. 

So.... if you are sending in your receiver to get a barrel fitted... Buyer beware!

Now I am looking for a complete rifle in .44 mag.
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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2009, 12:05:51 PM »
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I picked up the phone in early December, and verified the 357mag and 44mag barrels were in stock.  They declined my offer to pay up-front for the barrels, and cover the fitting later.  I told them I would be overnighting my receiver that day, which I did calling with my tracking number, and to put both barrels aside.

I called them three weeks after they received the action into the nifty e-checkable repair system.  After that I called every two weeks till March, then started to call every week.  I was tired of having sunshine blown up my ass about the availability of the barrels.  I kept getting, "they are in stock" "should be another week, we are waiting on the supplier"  Finally I got a guy two weeks ago that flat out said, "they are not in, and we have no clue when they will be ready"  Even went onto say that the company was looking into machinery to make their own barrels because of their current supply issues.  Time till barrels are ready... god only knows.

So I changed my order to a .308 bull ultra and was told to call in a couple days for a status, as the barrel showed "in stock."  I called back, and sure enough... no .308.  So I settled on the 7mm-08, just to get my rifle back in my hands.  2-days later I get notification that the rifle had shipped.  I finally, after almost 4 FULL months of waiting, am able to shoot my rifle again.  Granted it is not in the caliber I initially wanted for specific reasons, but oh well. 

So.... if you are sending in your receiver to get a barrel fitted... Buyer beware!

I know exactly what you are talking about.  They have had mine just shy of 9 MONTHS.  I have been lied to on numerous occasions.  However, I will not change my order.  I will wait till Hell freezes over just to see how long it takes.  On the other hand these people will never get another dime of my money and I will make it my life’s work to spread the news about this sorry customer service. 
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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2009, 05:16:45 AM »
In a way I can see the cause of this issue.  All the people running scared that the evil administration is going to take away 'ur gunz are buying up everything firearm related.  This has caused a big problem in the availability and prices of everything related to things that go bang.  From bullets to powder to optics to rifles, EVERYTHING has gone up in price and down in availability in the past 6mo.  People still feel that Obama is going to take them away, and only fueling the climb of prices.  Those that sell the products are only eating it up and jacking up prices to increase profits.  I never liked the service I have received from ANYONE in the firearms industry in the first place, but now it is out of control....kinda reminds me of the oil companies.

Was it a pain that they had my receiver for so long with no progress?  yes!
Did it remove my .223rem and .243win from my hands during the begining of shooting season? yes!
Am I activly looking for a complete rifle in .44mag now? yes!
Am I pissed off about the whole situation? no!  I have come to expect anyone selling firearms or firearms accessories to treat me like utter crap as a customer, afterall, it should be a privlage for me to give them my hard earned money....right? 

on edit:  There is one guy out there that treats me well, and always takes good care of his small group of customers.  My "basement FFL" is a good guy, and has no issues charging $10.62 for an FFL transfer.  I am just glad to have been handed his card by a good friend.
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Re: Ordering New Barrels
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2009, 06:26:57 PM »
xlt250, The Octomom made eight babies in that time, maybe you will get eight barrels back :) Sorry, it's not funny at all. I'm afraid to send in my 223 reciever for a 357 barrel, may not come back in time for the big snowball shoot. I have a new 44 mag sb2 that I tried putting the 223 barrel on last night to see how it fit. I think it is tight enough but will try to get the FAQS a little more before I shoot it. I think I have some old feeler guages around. Think that's what will tell me. I bet I may have a ?? or two before I let off a round. Feels about as tight as I like em. ;) Good luck getting your barrels.
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« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2009, 08:08:33 AM »
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The Octomom made eight babies in that time, maybe you will get eight barrels back

I like the way you think!  Do you think I could get governmental assistant to help feed them?   
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« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2009, 04:12:27 PM »
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I like the way you think!  Do you think I could get governmental assistant to help feed them?   

Only if you are living in California.  And if you do.... can you convince your state to hurry up and fill my "IOU" that I received in lieu of my tax return?
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