doninva, I get solid 2 in. groups with mine and sometimes in the 1 in. range, I just let my 7 yr. old son shoot it with 55 grs. of 777 fffg and he hit the same as me with 75 grs, I wanted to see if he could hunt with it, and I think he can. I think(from watching the boards) that the .50 is a tad bit more accurate, but my .45 will do the job quite nicely. I did this with a 175 gr. knight red hot. Make sure you get the 1 in 28 twist barrel. Hope this helps.