something to look for after you receive your barrel back from REmmington

[jimmybirdwell]

hello folks,I sure that you are tired of my negitive comments about NEF. but here is something else that everyone that had a barrel fitted durring or right after NEF H&R moved to remmington.
 A) immeddiatly after receiving my barrel from the mail and assembling it, I noticed a great deal of slack in the barrel. I measured it was 8_9 thoundsands slop. I also was missing the pallet wood stock I ordered. Spoke with Ed in thhe repair department, and got satisfaction anser on the replace ment of the stock. I can fix the slack in the barrel.

B) after that conversation, I laid the rifle down on my work bench and when I picked it up, I noticed that the pin holding the locking latch was broken (did not tare down frame at this point ) . called repair department again and had them send me a pin at which the did at no cost. Took them over a week to get pin to me, snail mail  I guess.

C) fianall got around to dis assembley of frame and found that the latch lifting spring had been broken. Aother call to repair and another week + of snail mail, I still have not received my spring .

D) last nightwhile re loading some .243 rounds to shoot in my barell (yea right) I glanced over to the bowl of parts for my rifle and  I dont why it caught my eye but it did, I noticed what looked like a hair on my barrel latch catch. I picked it up and tried to remove the hair but it was not a hair but a hair line crack on one of the ears that the pin goes through. I spread it apart with a pair of pliers and very little pressure and it broke in 1/2. Thank GOD that I noticed this. There is no telling what would have happened while shooting this rifle if the latch broke. Again I will call repair department and order this part and wait another week or so before I can again measure the slop in my barrel and repair it.

 tHIS RIFLE WAS SENT THE FIRST OF JUNE FOR A NEW BARREL AND HERE IT IS OCTOBER AND I STILL HAVE NOT FIRED A SHOT THROUGH MY NEW BARREL.
  Any way if you just got your new barrel back from remmington you need to take it apart (if your able) or have some one check it for you to insure that you have a SAFE fire arm. Right now I dont trust remmington to do anything to my Handi . Herres the point , I sent to the factory a frame to have a barrel fitted. again to the factory. These people are suposse to be pro's. I got back an unsafe gun that could not have been inspected very close before shipping back to me or these problems would have been caught.

 I Know that Tim and a bunch more of you have said give them a chance after the move things shoul get better but the craftmenship and quality control should have been the first thing that remmington insisted on. I feel that it was a bad choise for remmington to purchase NEF H&R marlin. and they will never ever have a chance to make a 2nd / first immpression.

                                JImmy   

[Swampman]

I sure that you are tired of my negitive comments about NEF.

I know I am.

I feel that it was a bad choise for remmington to purchase NEF H&R marlin.

I'd have to agree with you, but it was good thing for NEF, H&R, & Marlin.

[LaOtto222]

That is too bad I have been involved with moving companies in the past; enough to know that it rarely goes as smooth as hoped. There are new people to train and bugs to work out of the system. If you sent your rifle in the 1st of June, it had to be among the first to be worked on. If I had your experience, I do not think I would be very thrilled either. I guess somebody has to test the waters and see if it is safe. I guess not yet. I am not deterred yet. I still plan on getting a SS 45-70 and sending it in for a SS 30-06 barrel, but I think I will wait for a while yet. Call me a optimist; but I still think Remington will get it together and do a good job in they future. However, if they do not get it going in the near future, I can see the barrel program going away because it will be too expensive and deal too much damage to their reputation.

[petemi]

I agree with LaOtto, let's just wait and see.  I too want the SS .45-70, and I already have the SS '06 barrel for it.  I'll just buy the rifle and fit the barrel myself.  I don't think I'll sell the blue .45-70 I have because it is one of my very best shooters.

[Mac11700]

hello folks,I sure that you are tired of my negitive comments about NEF. but here is something else that everyone that had a barrel fitted durring or right after NEF H&R moved to remmington.
 A) immeddiatly after receiving my barrel from the mail and assembling it, I noticed a great deal of slack in the barrel. I measured it was 8_9 thoundsands slop. I also was missing the pallet wood stock I ordered. Spoke with Ed in thhe repair department, and got satisfaction anser on the replace ment of the stock. I can fix the slack in the barrel.

B) after that conversation, I laid the rifle down on my work bench and when I picked it up, I noticed that the pin holding the locking latch was broken (did not tare down frame at this point ) . called repair department again and had them send me a pin at which the did at no cost. Took them over a week to get pin to me, snail mail  I guess.

C) fianall got around to dis assembley of frame and found that the latch lifting spring had been broken. Aother call to repair and another week + of snail mail, I still have not received my spring .

D) last nightwhile re loading some .243 rounds to shoot in my barell (yea right) I glanced over to the bowl of parts for my rifle and  I dont why it caught my eye but it did, I noticed what looked like a hair on my barrel latch catch. I picked it up and tried to remove the hair but it was not a hair but a hair line crack on one of the ears that the pin goes through. I spread it apart with a pair of pliers and very little pressure and it broke in 1/2. Thank GOD that I noticed this. There is no telling what would have happened while shooting this rifle if the latch broke. Again I will call repair department and order this part and wait another week or so before I can again measure the slop in my barrel and repair it.

 tHIS RIFLE WAS SENT THE FIRST OF JUNE FOR A NEW BARREL AND HERE IT IS OCTOBER AND I STILL HAVE NOT FIRED A SHOT THROUGH MY NEW BARREL.
  Any way if you just got your new barrel back from remmington you need to take it apart (if your able) or have some one check it for you to insure that you have a SAFE fire arm. Right now I dont trust remmington to do anything to my Handi . Herres the point , I sent to the factory a frame to have a barrel fitted. again to the factory. These people are suposse to be pro's. I got back an unsafe gun that could not have been inspected very close before shipping back to me or these problems would have been caught.

 I Know that Tim and a bunch more of you have said give them a chance after the move things shoul get better but the craftmenship and quality control should have been the first thing that remmington insisted on. I feel that it was a bad choise for remmington to purchase NEF H&R marlin. and they will never ever have a chance to make a 2nd / first immpression.

                                JImmy   

WoW...Seems like your on first name basis with Mr.Murphy...

I have to say this though..in all of my years owning a Handi..I honestly have never seen a broken pin on any of them, and unless you specifically asked them to take yours apart for a trigger job..I sincerely doubt they would have seen any broken parts on yours..Getting a sloppy barrel fit back from them and not having the stock set shipped with your order is frustrating..but I don't think everything that has gone wrong for you is entirely Remington's fault.A lot of it yes..but not all of it. Do you know the build date on your rifle? Is it one that has been produced since the move..or just before it? This could account for some of the issues you have experienced with this paticular rifle.Anytime a manufacturing plant moves and starts in a new place there are always some Q/C issues that surface..and how your treated by them should be how you judge the company..not on products produced during a transition period.It doesn't lower the frustration level..but it is something to bear in mind when things like this happen.

Understand this I'm not saying Remington is blameless..nope..I'm not..to me it just seems that they aren't entirely to blame here.Further for you to caution or advise folks here to disassemble their rifles based on just your experience is rather 1 sided..namely because there are many that haven't had you run of bad luck with them of late.

Hopefully all of your issues will be resolved and quickly too..I would call them and politely tell them of your urgency on getting this rifle up to spec and if need be on your part next day or 2nd day air it back with a letter enclosed for the smith who works on it what issues you have had and how you want it..This will show them that there is a real need to have this done fast..and they in kind should reimburse you for shipping this way to them..and return ship it back to you the same way..A call to the C/S department politely expressing you situation will work better than an angry one,and should get yours expedited..perhaps with an upgraded set of stocks for it??? They have done this for me before..on one of their own..but not a Handi.. In all of my dealings with the folks of Remington or any firearms manufacture..I have found being polite and curtious (yet firm ) has always benefited me. Hopefully the same will hold true for you as well..Good Luck

Mac

[Natty Bumppo]

There's nothing wrong with my rifle (BC).  It took them 4 1/2 weeks to fit a new barrel (7mm-08) and send it back to me.  The customer service people always knew where my rifle was and its status.  They never told me anything that didn't turn out to be correct.  I am extremely pleased with their service.

[rex6666]

I agree with LaOtto, let's just wait and see.  I too want the SS .45-70, and I already have the SS '06 barrel for it.  I'll just buy the rifle and fit the barrel myself.  I don't think I'll sell the blue .45-70 I have because it is one of my very best shooters.

Glad to hear that blue 45-70 barrel is one of your best shooters

[Spanky]

Just curious...

Is there anything else that Remington "screwed up" on your rifle??

If so...
Please just add it to this thread so we don't have to read a new one.

I'm not trying to be rude but it seems like you "find" something else wrong every other day.



Have you picked out a new CZ yet??



Spanky

[blackpowderbill]

If I look hard enough I can find fault with every gun I have ever owned, be it  Winchester, Remington or Smith and Wesson.
  Over the years I have learned that if I expect perfection the first time around from any company, I will most likely be disappointed. So long as any flaws are minor and / or are rectified without complaint I am happy.
  "Best is the enemy of good enough"

[PHATINJUN]

Look in case you have not noticed this is a NEF forum we are NEF H&R Lovers and this is the premere site on the net and for that matter in the universe. We are not opposed to the critisizm or your plight most of us have had issues and problems . I for one think you are going about this all wrong . If I was you what I would do is start all over take a deep breath and get them on the phone again. I would lay out all the problems you have had put it all in a letter send them your frame tell them what you would like and what you expect from them for satifaction. If all this is true and there is a real problem I can see them getting your frame tearing it down and at the very least replacing all the guts and fitting the bbl better than any they have ever fit before. I would think that if you did all this and you still had the issues then I would wash my hands of them and bash away. Kind of like giving them a final chance to make it right. Will it take all the bad taste out of your mouth probly not . Will it get you a new rebuilt frame maybe will it get your time back that you have had to put into this no. Should you of had to go thru all this absolutly not but things happen . But with all the pressure these guys have had put on them by every one wanting thier gun fixed and back right now I can see how things have fallen thru the cracks. But just as the other groups say us handyholics are no differant stick around it'll get better. I am still optimistic this will all work out .Not what you probly wanting to here but try it and see what happens. Kurt

[jsoukup]

Ok, I know these guys are learning and nobody is perfect,...

but what kind of "FINAL INSPECTION" is going on with these rifles?

If it ain't right, it ain't right, but it goes out the door anyway?

[Spanky]

If it ain't right, it ain't right, but it goes out the door anyway?

I have a hard time believing that it went out the door like that.
I just don't see it happening that way.

Just my 2 cents.



Spanky

[blackpowderbill]

Things I have seen while working in the firearms retail (13 years),
1. Springfield 1911a1 with a barrel that was smooth on one side and deeply rifled on the other.
2. Kimber .45 autos that where complete dogs (non functioning)
3. Olympic ARs that broke bolts, numerous cases.
4. Springfield M1As with mushroomed pistons and op rods, most of the ones at the LE academy I attended.
5. S&W revolvers that had ringed cylinders right out of the box.
6. Numerous high dollar 1911s that would not function right no matter what we did to them.
  Those are just the things that I remembered right off. My point is, no company is perfect. If you have had any trouble with your NEF, rest assured that some one has had trouble with the high cost boys too. So long as the company will make it right don't worry about it.

[strob2000]

I don't post very often over here, but I do have a comment concerning the move.  I just got my rifle back after 6 weeks being in Ilion.  I had a 223 bull barrel put on.  Just took it to the range last Friday and it shoots great!  I have put about 60 rounds through it with zero problems.  I sent it off last fall for a 7mm-08 barrel, and that trip took 5 weeks at the old plant, so this time wasn't that bad to me.  I'm sorry to see so many negative comments on here, but I just wanted ya'll to know that my experience has been very good with NEF both times I've sent my rifle in.