Nice rifles. I'm still waiting to see what my Model 12BVSS-S in .308 likes. So far I've only shot a box of Cheap Remington 150 gr. factory loads and a half of a box of 165 gr UltraMax loads, which it liked a whole lot more. Since that time my dies came in, but I had surgery and couldn't lift the rifle without damaging myself....Soon, however,... very soon...