Author Topic: Recommendation for a Semi Auto (Read 5733 times)

dougk · « **on:** May 16, 2008, 07:32:02 PM »

I am looking for a semi auto rifle in .30-06 or .270 and the only hard requirements are close to 1 inch accuracy at 100 yards and a removable magazine. I would like to have a removable scope mount that does not lose zero, but that is a would like.

Any recommendations? I dont care when the rifle was made.

thanks
Doug

R.W.Dale · « **Reply #1 on:** May 17, 2008, 02:50:19 AM »

I think your requirements are a little too ambitious for a semi mostly on the accuracy expectation. If you're willing to settle for a pump, which by the way I feel is a better mousetrap anyhow, you can meet all those criteria with ease. All but the most worn out Remmy 7600 should have no problem with getting near or sub MOA accuracy with a little load development.

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I would like to have a removable scope mount that does not lose zero, but that is a would like.

An EGW picitinny base on a 7600 would come as close to this as you can realistically expect. But it's my experiance that ONLY ruger rings truly allow for a detachable mount that'll actually hold zero Anything else and you should expect to have to sight in every time you remove. My advice would be to buy a quality lower magnification scope mount it with a deadnutz mount and forget the sights exist

wi-deerhunter · « **Reply #2 on:** May 17, 2008, 06:26:29 AM »

Browning BAR is best for you. I don't have a Browning but my brother have one in .270 and it shoot under 1 inch group at 100 yards. I grew up with Remington semi auto (model 7400) Its not accurate gun but good enough for woods hunting. You want good removeable mounts, I'd recommend a Leupold base and rings.

Type99 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 18, 2008, 03:42:27 AM »

I second the recommendation of a BAR. You will not be disappointed by the accuracy. They give flawless functioning. I have a Lightweight Stalker in .300 Win Mag. It is everything I want in a semi-auto. You will pay a little more for a BAR, but it is well worth it.

Cheers,
Gary

BBF · « **Reply #4 on:** May 18, 2008, 03:53:37 AM »

BAR is my vote as well although I got a Rem 742 that shoots very well with certain loads and is gawdawful with others

targshooter · « **Reply #5 on:** May 18, 2008, 03:58:06 AM »

I own a Remington 7400 Synthetic Carbine. It is a 2 MOA firearm. I use it for local deer hunting. I bought it because it was very inexpensive (less than their cost) at a store that was going out of business. It is also a .30-06 and I use it with 220 grain loads for hunting in heavy brush here in MN where the bullet sectional density is everything. I do not feel it is a durable enough firearm to go on a wilderness hunt, for which I use my bolt action rifles with scopes and BUIS. If I wanted a semi auto for wilderness hunting I would get the Browning. It is a more durable firearm, even being the basis for some custom sniper rifles (Arms Tech). It is apparently quite accurate, as there are numerous reports of very good accuracy by many shooters on various internet sites. IMO, a 1MOA consistency in a hunting firearm is quite a tall order, one usually involving some bedding work and luck. In a semi-auto I suspect there is quite some luck involved. However, the Browning sure seems to be the one to give you the best shot at this luck (I had to do that).

dougk · « **Reply #6 on:** May 18, 2008, 04:28:32 PM »

Here is my list of top 3 not in any order.

Heckler and Koch SLB2000 (30-06 only) 2, 5 and 10 round magazine. Very European styled.

Browning BAR (Belgium) in 30-06 or 270

Valmet Hunter 30-06, the prices on these are outrageous likely putting this out of my price range.

I saw both the Browning and SLB2000 at Cabelas today. Tough choice.

targshooter · « **Reply #7 on:** May 19, 2008, 03:01:38 AM »

The HK SLB2000 was very expensive here in MN. I handled one several years ago and was duly impressed. I liked the BUIS. The HK SLB2000 was also an order item here, and the limited jobbers carrying it kept its cost up. I have never even read an account of how well the HK SL2000 shoots. From pictures on the internet it appears to be based on the Browning gas system. If the European stock is usable for you, and the additional cost is permissible, the SLB2000 may be an excellent contendor. As the rifle was discontinued, service and parts could be an issue.

jneilson · « **Reply #8 on:** May 19, 2008, 02:50:41 PM »

I like the way the Sauer 303 looks, no idea how it shoots. I'm sure it's ridiculously expensive.

Mike103 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 19, 2008, 02:55:17 PM »

WOW! AR style rifle in 243, 7mm-08 or 308! Hot off the press!

http://view.email.remington.com/?j=fe67157173640d7f7014&m=ff011071726505&ls=fe3117737265017f771675

NYHunter · « **Reply #10 on:** May 20, 2008, 06:59:47 AM »

Browning makes a smoother functioning action for certain. Accuracy varies from rifle to rifle so it's hard to say that one make is always better than another. You have to hope you get a shooter, or reload your own ammo. Someone mentioned in an earlier post and I agree. You can beat the Rem. 760 or 7600 pump rifle for dependability and good accuracy at a reasonable price. I've had both over the years. Started with the 760 pump, moved away to semi-auto's, and now I'm back to the pump rifle.

dougk · « **Reply #11 on:** May 26, 2008, 05:31:03 PM »

After looking at this long and hard. It cam down to the Browing BAR and the HK SLB2000.

I ended up with the HK SLB2000. It came down to price and features, also I got a sweet heart deal on the HK.

Thanks for the insights and opinions.

gstewart44 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 02, 2008, 06:39:13 AM »

My next semi auto rifle will be the Ohio ordnance SLR (semi auto BAR). 3006, very accurate, and just plain cool. It fits your original requirements - 30/06, removable magazine, moa accuracy.......

see it at http://www.ohioordnanceworks.com/semi-auto/SLR-semi.html

Now if we could only find those 5 rd hunting mag's......

Mike103 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 02, 2008, 12:18:13 PM »

My brother in law bought one. Sounds cool, looks cool, cool to shoot the first time, very heavy, not that accurate 3-4" groups, expensive to shoot, expensive to buy, boring to shoot after a few times. MIKE.

BNoz01 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 04, 2008, 05:34:13 PM »

FN is coming out with a new rifle called the FNAR. This is essentially a tricked out BAR in 308 Win caliber only. It has a removeable magazine (10 or 20 rounds), pistol grip stock, picatinny rails galore, and an accuracy guarantee.

Check it out!

B. Noz.

handirifle · « **Reply #15 on:** June 19, 2008, 05:13:22 PM »

Quote from: Mike103 on May 19, 2008, 02:55:17 PM

WOW! AR style rifle in 243, 7mm-08 or 308! Hot off the press!

http://view.email.remington.com/?j=fe67157173640d7f7014&m=ff011071726505&ls=fe3117737265017f771675

At over $1500, I'd pass even if I didn't live in CA.

dougk · « **Reply #16 on:** June 19, 2008, 05:38:54 PM »

Here is the gun with a Zeiss 1.8-5.5x38mm scope and EAW detachable swing mounts.

Cheesehead · « **Reply #17 on:** June 19, 2008, 05:53:25 PM »

Does this HK have any componants similar to its militay counterparts?

Cheese

dougk · « **Reply #18 on:** June 19, 2008, 06:13:15 PM »

I dont know. I will have to look.

1sourdough · « **Reply #19 on:** June 30, 2008, 11:23:42 PM »

Thanks for the picture, it does look nice.

mannyrock · « **Reply #20 on:** July 01, 2008, 03:32:29 AM »

DougK,

You posted a picture. Is this the new FN semi-auto? The only pictures I have seen of the new FN rifle show a long pistol grip hanging down (which I hate). But your pic shows a very nice wood stock and normal butt stock. What particular make and model is shown in your picture?

Thanks, Mannyrock.

mannyrock · « **Reply #21 on:** July 01, 2008, 03:35:18 AM »

Doug,

Ooops, sorry, I see from the prior posts by you in the string that the picture is an HK. A beautiful rifle. Why in the world do they not make it in .308?

Mannyrock

SharonAnne · « **Reply #22 on:** July 18, 2008, 08:58:36 AM »

handirifle, $1500 is about normal for an AR10, which the AR25 appears to be.

Blessed Be

SharonAnne

Carphunter · « **Reply #23 on:** August 14, 2008, 09:39:36 AM »

I just looked at the Merkel and wanted to ask if DougK has looked at the promo materials.... the dang thing looks like a SLB 2000 action with a slightly different stock design

dougk · « **Reply #24 on:** August 14, 2008, 11:48:10 AM »

I saw the Merkel and believe it is the same as the Benelli R1.

http://www.benelliusa.com/firearms/r1rifle.tpl

Which is not the same as the HK SLB2000

Carphunter · « **Reply #25 on:** August 14, 2008, 03:03:34 PM »

I just found another forum that talks about it and they say the Merkel is the same action as the SLB.

Doug, eyeballing them, an R1 Benelli uses an action similar to their shotguns... it's not real similar to the Merkel (or HK).

The Merkel site shows take down (once at the site, switch to English if you need to

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http://www.merkel-sr1.com/flash.html

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dougk · « **Reply #26 on:** August 15, 2008, 05:47:46 AM »

I checked with my contacts at HK/Merkel and your correct the Merkel is made in Germany by Merkel.

Country Boy · « **Reply #27 on:** October 23, 2008, 01:50:39 PM »

I use a Bar carbine with wood stock. It shoots great. I would like to try a Short trac but I can"t find anyone who has used one.

McLernon · « **Reply #28 on:** November 09, 2008, 07:50:03 AM »

I think you would be hard pressed to beat the Remmy 750 Woodsmaster. The design has been around along time and has excellant balance. Fit and finish is very good and it is accurate(1-1/2 MOA) with factorory ammo. great out to 300 yards for deer and good in the bush too. Price is reasonable.

Mc

Country Boy · « **Reply #29 on:** November 09, 2008, 01:35:29 PM »

Had one of the first one's that came out. Remington sent me on a wild goose chase to some repair center. (100 miles away)Then sent it to the factory twice. It had all kinds of problems, broken forend, out of round chamber,etc. but it sure looked nice mater of fact I just looked at one a few hours ago and it's not easy to walk away from one. But I've never had one that would shoot worth a hoot.