Author Topic: t/c icon  (Read 3231 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline 30-06man

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2604
t/c icon
« on: October 04, 2007, 01:04:55 PM »
anybody have one yet? hows it shoot or what was your impressions of the rifle even if you don't own one?
The sportsman lives his life vicariously. For he secretly yearns to have lived before, in a simpler time. A time when his love for the land, water, fish and wildlife would be more than just part of his life. It would be his state of mind

Rick

Offline wareagleguy

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1018
  • Gender: Male
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2007, 01:50:54 PM »
Held one the other day.  I liked the looks but it would have to really shoot well to justify the cost.  If one really looks around you can get a Sako for that kind of money.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Offline 30-06man

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2604
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2007, 02:48:42 PM »
the bolt throw. built in scope bases, and the bedding system is what has me wanting one. it looks like a very nice rifle. i was watching guns and ammo and they were talking about how most bolt actions are old but good designs and the t/c takes advantage of all the new improvements and is the ultimate bolt action and it seems like its true. it also has a german style rifling i heard
The sportsman lives his life vicariously. For he secretly yearns to have lived before, in a simpler time. A time when his love for the land, water, fish and wildlife would be more than just part of his life. It would be his state of mind

Rick

Offline wareagleguy

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1018
  • Gender: Male
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2007, 05:23:05 PM »
I considered the rifle.  The things are a thing of beauty and I was torn between it and a Savage model 14.  The Savage won but only because of the cost.  While the savage 14 is a fine looking rifle (as far as a savage can be) the Icon sure looked good. I was just too worried about the cost and it turned out being a so-so shooter.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Offline Brithunter

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2538
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2007, 10:33:51 PM »
Hi All,

     Whilst I know little to nothing about the TC Icon apart from what I have read here on Greybeards this little snippet did peak my interest is a funny way:-

Quote
built in scope bases

   You see BSA did this way back in the early 1950's but later dropped it as it wqs unpopular with the US market. It seems that Americans did not like the idea of only one type of scope mounts and none of the US makers of scope mounts made them to fit. I suppose it's a little different now as BRNO of course had dovetailed actions and several US makers make rigns for those!

Offline beemanbeme

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2587
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2007, 04:26:30 AM »
You would think that would be a plus since the base screws  have often been a weak link in the scope mounting system. 

I'm curious, what was the "real world" price of the icon?  Not the msrp.

 People have fussed about the loss of quality with the American rifles.  Let's see if they are willing to pay a few bucks more for the finishing touches that define a quality rifle.

Offline quickdtoo

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (149)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 43304
  • Gender: Male
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2007, 06:09:06 AM »
"Always do right, this will gratify some and astonish the rest" -  Mark Twain

Offline Davemuzz

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2009
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2007, 06:51:46 AM »
One of the Magazines, either Outdoor Life or F&S did a review of the icon and the next month....or maybe the same month but the other magazine.....did a review of the S&W I-bolt.

I read both articles a few times. The writers absolutely loved the Thompson Center Icon. They had a few nit-pickey things to say, but that's to be expected.....however, they loved the Icon.

Now, the I-bolt was a different story. First they "qualified" the review by saying they tested a "prototype" model. But then somewhere in the story they said it was "almost" the finished product. BTW, FWIW Thompson Center produces the barrel for the I-bolt and was contracted to do this before the acquisition. (or so S&W has said). But essentially, if you "read between the lines" of the I-bolt review, the writers were being polite to one of their big advertisers, while at the same time bashing the crap out of the first time rifle. Essentially what I read was for the money, buy anything else...and you will buy a better gun.

The T\C article basically stated if you buy the Icon, you have bot a good quality gun. Now.....caliber....if you get it in the new 30 T\C...that's another matter. But rechambereing can always be done. So that's not a big deal.

MHO

Dave

Offline 30-06man

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2604
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2007, 09:05:21 AM »
the ibolt looks like a good gun also but i still think the icon will be better
The sportsman lives his life vicariously. For he secretly yearns to have lived before, in a simpler time. A time when his love for the land, water, fish and wildlife would be more than just part of his life. It would be his state of mind

Rick

Offline buckenbass

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 189
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2007, 01:29:13 PM »
it,s been a long wait since my dealer put my order in at the shot show Jan 4th for my icon. even got a little mad when they started to show up on some auction sites last month but none I saw was the 30TC all 308 and the 243. well it came home with me today ,topped it off with a Nikon 4.5-14x40 sf Buckmasters scope and a set of Leopold prw steel rings.wood looks nice don't like the mag release and I don,t know why they did not use the Sims recoil pad on the stock . gun feels solid , bolt smooth did not test the trigger I don't have a snap cap .. bought 3 boxes of ammo but wont be able to shoot it until Thursday I will let you know the group size then.. until then more waiting..
I have yet been able to shoot a 3 shot sub 1" group at 100 yards ...........on any deer!!!!!!

Offline Davemuzz

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2009
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2007, 02:13:43 PM »
Bucknbass,

Not clear from your post...but did you get it in 30TC? If so only time will tell if the caliber gets popular.

As far as the magazine is concerned, I don't know if you don't like the idea of a one-click box mag release, or if you don't like how they have arranged the release method. I haven't seen one to comment on it. However I do own a Winchester model 88 that has the one-click mag release. Yup, one click and all but the chamber round is in your hand. This is such an incredibly simple, useful and wonderful item to have on a hunting rifle that I just don't understand why they are not on every bolt action rifle with a magazine.

You will really appreciate it on those rainy days when your buddies are droppin their shells in the mud 'cause there hands are too cold to catch 'em comin out of the mag....or better yet on those snowy days when there is 5" on the ground and they dropped 2 and can't find 'em. You'll be in the truck sippin coffe with your mag in your pocket. Oh yeah....come lodin time it's clip.....lock....clip...load...clip let's go. It just don't get any eaiser.

MHO

Dave 

Offline 30-06man

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2604
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2007, 03:44:00 PM »
yeah i like the one click mag. it should be fine to dry fire it one time. just don't do it a lot. it is a sims pad. its just a diffrent pad. not the good one just a rubber sims pad that is made a little diffrent' how do you like the scope rail? what about the 60degree throw. and the interlock bedding system if you have removed the stock?
The sportsman lives his life vicariously. For he secretly yearns to have lived before, in a simpler time. A time when his love for the land, water, fish and wildlife would be more than just part of his life. It would be his state of mind

Rick

Offline buckenbass

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Avid Poster
  • **
  • Posts: 189
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2007, 05:04:15 PM »
sorry its the 30tc  i like the idea of the drop out  magazine but it dose not seem to be a solid locking system.
I looked at the book it says i can dry fire it ,so i did I will have to lower the trigger pull ..pachmayr is the pad.
when I put the scope on and went to bore sight it  it was one click from being dead on so I can say the built on rail keeps things square. not going to remove stock anytime soon..
My main stay of guns have been pistols,black powder rifles and TC single shots so the gun feels good but I don't have much experience with bolts..
I have yet been able to shoot a 3 shot sub 1" group at 100 yards ...........on any deer!!!!!!

Offline 30-06man

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2604
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2007, 05:17:48 PM »
trigger is suspose to be right at 4lbs is it in that range?
The sportsman lives his life vicariously. For he secretly yearns to have lived before, in a simpler time. A time when his love for the land, water, fish and wildlife would be more than just part of his life. It would be his state of mind

Rick

Offline 30-06man

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2604
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2007, 05:19:23 PM »
also that scope rail sounds good. if i got one it would have leupold mounts to make it the best out there as far as setups. i would like to know how it shoots when you get the chance to post about it and hopefully some pictures of the gun
The sportsman lives his life vicariously. For he secretly yearns to have lived before, in a simpler time. A time when his love for the land, water, fish and wildlife would be more than just part of his life. It would be his state of mind

Rick

Offline Davemuzz

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2009
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2007, 04:29:10 AM »
I think you will like a bolt action once you shoot one and get use to the short throw for re-chambering the next round. Just don't forget that when you re-chamber, click that safety back on 'afore you start to track the deer. It's easy to get use to the single shot T\C's and just throw another into the chamber and go....you know it's safe 'cause you didn't pull back the hammer!

Well built bolt's are fine piece's of equipment.

MHO

Dave

Offline 30-06man

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2604
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2007, 04:34:51 AM »
defiantly should be the best out there
The sportsman lives his life vicariously. For he secretly yearns to have lived before, in a simpler time. A time when his love for the land, water, fish and wildlife would be more than just part of his life. It would be his state of mind

Rick

Offline beemanbeme

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2587
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2007, 04:43:34 AM »
@#!!!%^&*! Why didn't they bring it out in a 7-08?   I guess if they had, their sales of 30T/Cs would have been zilch point nada.  Or even a .260. 

Buckenbass, what does it weigh field ready?

Offline 30-06man

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2604
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #18 on: October 06, 2007, 05:51:20 AM »
they probably will next year. they are going to make a all weather version i heard
The sportsman lives his life vicariously. For he secretly yearns to have lived before, in a simpler time. A time when his love for the land, water, fish and wildlife would be more than just part of his life. It would be his state of mind

Rick

Offline beemanbeme

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2587
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2007, 09:45:40 AM »
I don't want a @!!!#@*! all weather version. I want one with the fancy wood that I can rub and fondle on a cold winter night.  You can't do that with a plastic stock.   :'(

Offline 30-06man

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2604
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #20 on: October 06, 2007, 06:40:56 PM »
if they make it in one model i am sure they will make it in another. i am not sure though. its just a rumor at the gun shop
The sportsman lives his life vicariously. For he secretly yearns to have lived before, in a simpler time. A time when his love for the land, water, fish and wildlife would be more than just part of his life. It would be his state of mind

Rick

Offline Brithunter

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2538
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #21 on: October 06, 2007, 11:27:22 PM »
I don't want a @!!!#@*! all weather version. I want one with the fancy wood that I can rub and fondle on a cold winter night.  You can't do that with a plastic stock.   :'(

   Now there is a man after my own heart  ;D Wood is good , Plastic is drastic!

Offline The Sodbuster

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Contributor
  • ***
  • Posts: 387
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #22 on: October 07, 2007, 04:39:39 AM »
Hope they bring out a lefty version of the Icon.  I did read recently where Sako was going to produce a left-handed Model 85.  I reckon that will be a $1,000-1,300 rifle, though.

Offline 30-06man

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2604
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2007, 02:50:42 PM »
i do not know about the left handed models they probably will later on down the road
The sportsman lives his life vicariously. For he secretly yearns to have lived before, in a simpler time. A time when his love for the land, water, fish and wildlife would be more than just part of his life. It would be his state of mind

Rick

Offline Davemuzz

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2009
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2007, 03:09:58 PM »
Hope they bring out a lefty version of the Icon.

Every rifle made is a right and left hand version. It's just not our fault that lefties have it ars backwards. ;D

Dave

Offline 30-06man

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2604
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2007, 03:22:27 PM »
what if its the gun that's backwards?  :o
The sportsman lives his life vicariously. For he secretly yearns to have lived before, in a simpler time. A time when his love for the land, water, fish and wildlife would be more than just part of his life. It would be his state of mind

Rick

Offline Davemuzz

  • GBO Supporter
  • Trade Count: (1)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2009
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2007, 11:54:27 PM »
what if its the gun that's backwards?  :o

Damn!!! You could be right!....This could mean the whole world is spinning in the wrong direction!  :-\  Oh man....I gotta take a nap... :P


Dave

Offline 30-06man

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2604
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2007, 01:08:15 PM »
or we could be all cross eyed and up side down  :-\
The sportsman lives his life vicariously. For he secretly yearns to have lived before, in a simpler time. A time when his love for the land, water, fish and wildlife would be more than just part of his life. It would be his state of mind

Rick

Offline fordisto

  • Trade Count: (7)
  • Member
  • *
  • Posts: 73
  • Gender: Male
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2007, 11:32:01 AM »
I am taking mine home in .308. The walnut on mine is very nice. It's not exhibition grade, but much nicer than any factory wood I have seen lately. I agree about the magazine. It would be nice if the magazine was metal instead of plastic. The overall finish is very good except for the area around the buttpad. It's not terrible, but it seems to have gotten the least amount of attention. I am waiting to get a scope mounted before the real fun begins. I'll try to get some pix up early next week.

Offline 30-06man

  • Trade Count: (2)
  • Senior Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2604
Re: t/c icon
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2007, 11:49:17 AM »
i was at the gun shop today and they didn't have one so i went back to look at the electra from cva and right when i was leaving the ups man had came he had 2 in the 30tc. i went and held one and helped install a scope on another one. while i was installing the scope they someone bought the one i was going to buy the next day so i ended up installing 2 scopes on each a vx7 leupold and a zeiss. the people who had bought them spent $2000 and $1500. both very nice steups. and while i was there i went and sold them some new hornaday bullets made for the 30t/c  in the reloading part of the store. they bought all new everthing. i think i sold close to $5000 worth of stuff in 30 mins. and i don't even work there. its my firends store i end up selling stuff insted of him. but i am going to go shoot one next weekend. i can't wait!!
The sportsman lives his life vicariously. For he secretly yearns to have lived before, in a simpler time. A time when his love for the land, water, fish and wildlife would be more than just part of his life. It would be his state of mind

Rick