Author Topic: Killing a Big Foot (Read 7444 times)

Ray Ford · « **on:** August 13, 2007, 06:25:07 AM »

I was in my financial adviser's office the other day--He handles all of my $87 in savings!--when one of his clients made a quick visit. For the life of me, I can't remember what the antecedent statement was, but, as he left, he said something like this: That's like shooting a sasquatch. Someone who would do that is a sicko! (I didn't use quotation marks on this statement because it is a paraphrase.)

The statement struck a somewhat sympathetic chord with me: I never really liked to kill anything, and, the older I get, the more I feel that way. Perhaps age creates a reverence for life--in some people. And, as a combination of a person of scientific bent and a closet ecologist, I would hate to see a rare species pushed closer to extinction even though a body would povide a lot of scientific information.

Since absolutely nothing had been said about Bigfeet/Yeti/Sasquatch, I was left wondering what had put that particular burr under the guy's saddle blanket--that particular rock in the guy's shoe.

Any comments?

Telahnay's g'son · « **Reply #1 on:** August 13, 2007, 08:23:42 AM »

He said that because with two (2) FTF daytime sightings in the past ~30 years as an oil & gas production man and "knows what they are" therefore, killing one isn't requisite to satisfying his conviction of what these critters actually are.

Stop and think about this...IF these things have gone on for all this time w/o any major confrontations with humans and have coexisted among us as such dontcha think that in many respects they may well be a heckuva lot smarter than the average person or at least a 5th grader?

NONYA · « **Reply #2 on:** August 13, 2007, 09:30:09 AM »

So rare,intelligent and mystical that you cant wait to kill one,if one is ever killed I would expect it to be instantly seized by federal F&G and the shooter locked up,ever consider that?

Graybeard · « **Reply #3 on:** August 13, 2007, 11:16:25 AM »

I guess I can't speak to the thought process leading to the statement but as for me I'd apply the same rules to shooting one that I'd apply to shooting a human. If I felt my life or that of someone else in sufficient danger as to require such action by me I'd likely take it. Otherwise I'd not. I have zero interest in killing either. I have seen humans therefore am pretty sure they exist. I've not however seen or heard a bigfoot or anything remotely resembling one so for now at least I'm not particularly convinced they exist. I would like to satisfy my couriousity as to their existence by seeing one personally IF THEY EXIST but would take no action to harm it unless it forced me to do so.

Ray Ford · « **Reply #4 on:** August 13, 2007, 11:19:57 AM »

Quote from: NONYA on August 13, 2007, 09:30:09 AM

So rare,intelligent and mystical that you cant wait to kill one,if one is ever killed I would expect it to be instantly seized by federal F&G and the shooter locked up,ever consider that?

I've said it before, but perhaps it bears repeating: The first person who shoots one, if they are out there, may get away with it, but the second one will not. The species will instantly be declared endangered and protected.

What I've also said before is that I have reached a hard decision that the only circumstances in which I would shoot one of the big hairy guys is if I, or someone else, was endangered by one.

Yes, T's.g., I do think that, if they are out there, they are smart and skillfully reclusive.

powderman · « **Reply #5 on:** August 13, 2007, 11:30:06 AM »

I'd feel it a real blessing to be able to see one, certainly wouldn't kill one just to say I did any more than any other animal. In self defense only, or to save another human life. I don't kill for pleasure, and don't shoot at shadows. POWDERMAN.

~Ace~ · « **Reply #6 on:** August 13, 2007, 11:40:30 AM »

Around here we Kill every Bigfoot we see, No excuses.

Cabin4 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 13, 2007, 11:50:22 AM »

Since I don't believe they even exist, I can't directly answer your question. Even if they did exist, and it was legal to shoot them, I would not. To me, this would be like shooting a gorilla. Not something I'm interested in.

Legal or not to shoot them, but my life or someone else was in danger from one, yes I would.

~Ace~ · « **Reply #8 on:** August 13, 2007, 11:52:09 AM »

Quote from: cabin4 on August 13, 2007, 11:50:22 AM

Since I don't believe they even exist, I can't directly answer your question. Even if they did exist, and it was legal to shoot them, I would not. To me, this would be like shooting a gorilla. Not something I'm interested in.

Legal or not to shoot them, but my life or someone else was in danger from one, yes I would.

Do you work for the Gov ? that was the Longest Non answer I ever seen

Telahnay's g'son · « **Reply #9 on:** August 13, 2007, 12:30:31 PM »

Quote from: cabin4 on August 13, 2007, 11:50:22 AM

Since I don't believe they even exist, I can't directly answer your question. Even if they did exist, and it was legal to shoot them, I would not. To me, this would be like shooting a gorilla. Not something I'm interested in.

Legal or not to shoot them, but my life or someone else was in danger from one, yes I would.

I think most everyone doesn't believe "they" exist...until the initial FTF encounter(s) and then (at least in my case) I knew it was something presently unexplainable within my pre-encounter paradigm and I'm still trying to figure out exactly what it was I saw. The reaction seems to range from one extreme to the other in that either your interest in these things is piqued to a high level or irrational fear takes over and as in the case of one of our group that had a FTF with what was apparently a large alpha male has never ventured out again. His words at the conclusion of that event was "the gun big enough hasn't been made". We respect him for that and have never held any animosity for his position. DG and I figured out a while back that if these things were truly belligerent, we'd been dead a long time ago. Don't get me wrong, I have a very healthy respect for what these things can do (after the 1200# towerstand was toppled like a lawn chair) but know they probably would only get belligerent if threatened...much like I feel about them.

Teufelwald · « **Reply #10 on:** August 13, 2007, 03:09:44 PM »

If I would have had a gun in my hands during my close up and personal encounter with whatever these things are...I would have shot it....you do not want to run into the thing I encountered....straight out of your worst nightmare!

Cabin4 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 13, 2007, 04:25:51 PM »

Quote from: ~Ace~ on August 13, 2007, 11:52:09 AM

Quote from: cabin4 on August 13, 2007, 11:50:22 AM
Since I don't believe they even exist, I can't directly answer your question. Even if they did exist, and it was legal to shoot them, I would not. To me, this would be like shooting a gorilla. Not something I'm interested in.

Legal or not to shoot them, but my life or someone else was in danger from one, yes I would.

Do you work for the Gov ? that was the Longest Non answer I ever seen

I do not work for the Government. I do negotiate corporate agreements for a living, so its natural for me to be cautious with my answers, especially those in writing.

However, I did directly answered the question with an honest answer. You will find:

1. I would not shoot to hunt one
and
2. I would shoot one, if I or someone near me was in direct danger of one

Its just a 2 part answer...

Cabin4 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 13, 2007, 04:29:57 PM »

BTW: I do not think they exist. No, so called physical evidence ever been found to support their existence. If anyone claims there has been, the over whelming majority of the science community does not accept it as factual evidence. We need a body.... until such time Big Foot is just that, a Nightmare.

30-06man · « **Reply #13 on:** August 14, 2007, 02:20:29 AM »

yup i believe in big foot. its a big truck that runs over stuff. lol just messin

i don't know what to believe about it. i believe it may exist in areas were humans aren't. i would guess in a northern country. i wouldn't shoot one unless it threatened me. its like shooting a human like others have said.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #14 on:** August 14, 2007, 03:07:57 AM »

self defense yep !
if you are thinking about killing one , then ask your self would you skin and eat it ? or is it a pest ? or are you seeking fame ?
you should be sure why you kill ! but to be honest ya got to find one first , and that seems to be a big big problem , don't it !

Cabin4 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 14, 2007, 06:46:03 AM »

Quote from: T/CEncore1 on August 14, 2007, 02:20:29 AM

yup i believe in big foot. its a big truck that runs over stuff. lol just messin

YES!!!!!

Ray Ford · « **Reply #16 on:** August 14, 2007, 01:28:47 PM »

As I said in another place, its interesting how a thread can evolve--and deteriorate.

God loves you, and I'm trying.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #17 on:** August 14, 2007, 01:39:06 PM »

sort of like the human brain ! when one starts off killing an animal that does not exist the only way to go is up !

powderman · « **Reply #18 on:** August 14, 2007, 03:59:24 PM »

Quote from: Teufelwald on August 13, 2007, 03:09:44 PM

If I would have had a gun in my hands during my close up and personal encounter with whatever these things are...I would have shot it....you do not want to run into the thing I encountered....straight out of your worst nightmare!

TEUFEWALD. I'd like to hear about your experience. POWDERMAN.

NONYA · « **Reply #19 on:** August 14, 2007, 08:02:04 PM »

If they are so dangerous and you were unarmed why didnt you get mauled or killed?If you had a close encounter you are living proff that they dont harm humans every chance they get as you would have us believe.

Telahnay's g'son · « **Reply #20 on:** August 15, 2007, 03:31:15 AM »

Quote from: NONYA on August 14, 2007, 08:02:04 PM

If they are so dangerous and you were unarmed why didnt you get mauled or killed?If you had a close encounter you are living proff that they dont harm humans every chance they get as you would have us believe.

How many people have encountered a Grizzly bear in the wild and lived to tell of it?

How many folks are mauled/killed by them each year?

Teufelwald · « **Reply #21 on:** August 15, 2007, 05:37:52 AM »

Quote from: powderman on August 14, 2007, 03:59:24 PM

Quote from: Teufelwald on August 13, 2007, 03:09:44 PM
If I would have had a gun in my hands during my close up and personal encounter with whatever these things are...I would have shot it....you do not want to run into the thing I encountered....straight out of your worst nightmare!

TEUFEWALD. I'd like to hear about your experience. POWDERMAN.

P-M we discussed my encounter a while back....heres the link.

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,89468.msg543785.html#msg543785

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #22 on:** August 15, 2007, 10:22:38 AM »

so now is big foot a bear ?

30-06man · « **Reply #23 on:** August 15, 2007, 11:35:26 AM »

its a bear, truck and something in peoples mind. lol. i don't know what to believe about it. i won't till i see it

Cabin4 · « **Reply #24 on:** August 15, 2007, 11:42:57 AM »

I think some people just see strange things in the woods... real or not.

30-06man · « **Reply #25 on:** August 15, 2007, 12:08:51 PM »

NONYA · « **Reply #26 on:** August 15, 2007, 12:40:51 PM »

I think there are many who want to believe,and some who think they will profit from making others believe and then those who see something they cant identify and conclude it was BF,until 1 piece of evidence is provided that proves they exist or i see one myself I will remain skeptical but open to the possibility.We recover the skeletons of creatures extinct for millions of years,I have found pieces of them myself,we find complete skeletons of bears and lions even wolves now,why has there never been a single bone from a BF found in NA?Why has there never been a body recovered?Why has there never been a real one captured on film?With the thermal imaging technology the US govt has dont you think they would have spotted and Id'd one on one of the millions of night flights they have made around NA?

Teufelwald · « **Reply #27 on:** August 15, 2007, 01:56:46 PM »

Quote from: NONYA on August 15, 2007, 12:40:51 PM

I think there are many who want to believe,and some who think they will profit from making others believe and then those who see something they cant identify and conclude it was BF,until 1 piece of evidence is provided that proves they exist or i see one myself I will remain skeptical but open to the possibility.We recover the skeletons of creatures extinct for millions of years,I have found pieces of them myself,we find complete skeletons of bears and lions even wolves now,why has there never been a single bone from a BF found in NA?Why has there never been a body recovered?Why has there never been a real one captured on film?With the thermal imaging technology the US govt has dont you think they would have spotted and Id'd one on one of the millions of night flights they have made around NA?

I did not believe either before I encountered whatever it was....so I have no problem with people who do not believe there are some type of huge hairy upright walking creatures out there....what I have a problem with are rude people who insult those of us who have seen one of these types of creatures...I was not out looking for it....it came to me.....I could have lived my life just fine without having seen this thing.....you never feel the same about going out in the woods I'll tell that much.

NONYA · « **Reply #28 on:** August 15, 2007, 02:15:36 PM »

Coming face to face with 2 grizzly bears over an elk carcass will have the same effect,but these animals are proven to exist and BF isnt,if you are going to share stories about encounters with one I would expect some skeptics to question the validity of your story.I would never say its impossible but I would also never become a believer over stories like the ones I read hear,I want to see physical evidence.I personally know a few people,one from Florida and one from MT who have BF stories,they are both full of s*** and have amazing stories to tell every time they get alone in the woods,I think its in some peoples nature to expolain what they dont understand with amazing tales of unknown creatures,the native americans have done it throughout their history,explaining things as simple the sun rising and setting with tales of mystical creatures who control it.

Drilling Man · « **Reply #29 on:** August 15, 2007, 02:18:31 PM »

Quote

How many people have encountered a Grizzly bear in the wild and lived to tell of it?

How many folks are mauled/killed by them each year?

I can't give you an "exact" count of how many run into them, but i'm sure the total runs in the thousands by now, probably even many many times more than that... I know i have numerous times, and i've never been mauled, as very few people are mauled by grizzly/brown bears...

DM