Author Topic: I banned one of you Handi-Holics from the site tonight (Read 3090 times)

Graybeard · « **on:** March 08, 2007, 05:44:15 PM »

Tonight I had the displeasure of banning one of you Handi-Holics from the site. If he could read it likely wouldn't have happened. When you get an e-mail notice of a new PM (sent ONLY at your request) the e-mail specifically says to NOT reply to it but to go to the PM and reply there. He did reply to the e-mail and guess who gets ALL such replies. Yup the old fat Graybearded one.

In this e-mail notice he specifically stated he was going to violate both GBO TOS and federal law so he is banned. I guess you might say his crime was gross stupidity.

Who? Swampman.

Folks if it comes to my attention you're violating the TOS you'll generally get a warning depending on the severity but if I find you're violating the law you're HISTORY at this site and I don't care who you are.

Fred M · « **Reply #1 on:** March 08, 2007, 06:03:10 PM »

Bill.
You lost me here, but what is TOS.

Swampman, he did have problems now and then.

Graybeard · « **Reply #2 on:** March 08, 2007, 06:09:51 PM »

Terms of Use Statement aka THE RULES.

quickdtoo · « **Reply #3 on:** March 08, 2007, 06:10:30 PM »

Replying to those GBO pm notifications can be embarassing in itself

, but whatcha say can be even worse!!

Poor Swampman, he blew it now.

Tim

Graybeard · « **Reply #4 on:** March 08, 2007, 06:13:43 PM »

Yup if I don't know it that's one thing but when ya mess up and put it in an e-mail to me that you're gonna violate federal law I have no choice in what actions I have to take. We fully cooperate with all government agencies in their investigations of law violations. So telling me yer gonna do something illegal ain't real smart.

Badnews Bob · « **Reply #5 on:** March 08, 2007, 06:22:00 PM »

Sorry about swampman but obeying laws and rules are what seperates the crooks and terrorist from the rest of us,good job GB.

ken2222 · « **Reply #6 on:** March 08, 2007, 06:29:36 PM »

OUCH......just plain, OUCH!

Ken

Spanky · « **Reply #7 on:** March 08, 2007, 06:33:00 PM »

Rules are rules and they are in place for a reason! It's too bad that it had to happen but you did the right thing.

MSP Ret · « **Reply #8 on:** March 08, 2007, 06:39:32 PM »

It says not to reply and he not only replied but stuck his foot in his mouth when he did, I feel sorry for him but he did it himself. It reminds me of something that happened to me early one morning as the Corporal at the local State Police Barracks. About 0400 the local paper delivery man stopped in to drop off some newspapers and told me there was a restaurant/bar down the street he dropped off papers at, when he pulled in he saw the door smashed open and when he looked in he saw a guy asleep at a table by the front window, I dispatched a Trooper in the area to check it out. It seems the guy had broken in to rob the place, took a few swigs from a bottle from the bar, kept searching for more money and kept taking more swigs, he got tired and a little drunk so he sat down at the table and took a few more swigs of the stolen booze to fortify himself, he was cold because he had smashed the door in to gain entry so he took a few more swigs to warm up, he finally passed out at the table in the front window. He offered no resistance to the Trooper who arrested him and just about had to carry the drunken B&E artist to the cruiser to transport him to the barracks where he was booked and held for court in the morning. The papers got ahold of the story and made it into a small but rather funny front page article. Sometimes people just don't think and do things that are not in their best interests....<><....

Mac11700 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 08, 2007, 06:47:33 PM »

Man...talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face

Mac

MSP Ret · « **Reply #10 on:** March 08, 2007, 06:51:58 PM »

Your right Mac, they only thing we did not do was take a picture of the B&E drunk passed out at the table in the front window of the bar next to the smashed in front door for presentation in court. We got a guilty on it anyway but to have that picture to present to the judge - priceless....<><....

Mac11700 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 08, 2007, 07:00:19 PM »

Him too Andy

...but I was referring to Swampy too...

Mac

canon6 · « **Reply #12 on:** March 08, 2007, 07:16:37 PM »

GB,as the one who has the responsibility , you only did what was right for the site and I for one thank you.Sorry swampman is toast ,but we have to police our own or someone else may try thanks again Doug

Hazard · « **Reply #13 on:** March 08, 2007, 09:15:24 PM »

hmm im lost i really dont understand whats going on here, ive never seen this email, i dont know what ur guys r talking about but i would like to so this doesnt happen to me.

thanks guys
adam

stimpylu32 · « **Reply #14 on:** March 09, 2007, 12:33:02 AM »

Adam

Basicaly what it is , there is an option. that you can use to tell you if you have a new PM on GBs via e-mail .. What he did was anwser the e-mail with so some things that he should not have instead of going to the PM system .

It says to not respond to this e-mail but to go to the PM system and reply .

stimpy

kid_couteau · « **Reply #15 on:** March 09, 2007, 03:18:35 AM »

Hi All

I am kind of naive to this sort of thing but what federal law can you violate on a website?

?

Too bad about Swampman I liked him

Take care All
Kid

PartsMan · « **Reply #16 on:** March 09, 2007, 03:34:22 AM »

Quote from: Graybeard on March 08, 2007, 05:44:15 PM

In this e-mail notice he specifically stated he was going to violate both GBO TOS and federal law so he is banned.

It's to bad, he will be missed.
Now who will push the 30-40 krag.

mt3030 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 09, 2007, 03:54:23 AM »

Quote from: PartsMan on March 09, 2007, 03:34:22 AM

....who will push the 30-40 krag.

30-40 Krag.

MSP Ret · « **Reply #18 on:** March 09, 2007, 03:58:38 AM »

Now that is a sweet looking Handi, and to think it's in a classic rimmed cartridge. It's a beauty....<><....

myarmor · « **Reply #19 on:** March 09, 2007, 04:46:27 AM »

Quote from: kid_couteau on March 09, 2007, 03:18:35 AM

Hi All

I am kind of naive to this sort of thing but what federal law can you violate on a website??

Too bad about Swampman I liked him

Take care All
Kid

Seems like he was in a hurry to sale off several of his rifles......

Federal laws aren't to be taken lightly. Loosing your home won't only be here at GBO

-Aaron

quickdtoo · « **Reply #20 on:** March 09, 2007, 05:20:07 AM »

The "Rules", as Bill put it....

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Firearms Sales, GBO is in no way responsible for the sale of firearms on its web site, any member offering for sale a firearm must follow all Federal, State and Local laws that govern the state in which the sale is being made from and to. Any member buying a firearm posted for sale on the GBO web site must follow all Federal, State and Local laws that govern the state in which they intend to have the gun delivered. GBO is not a "middle man" and no one representing GBO has any part in the sale of or the collection of the money for any item located for sale on the GBO web site nor do we have any dealings in the shipping of the items.

http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/smf/index.php/topic,54070.0.html

Rules specific to the Classified forums...

http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/smf/index.php/topic,92183.0.html

kid_couteau · « **Reply #21 on:** March 09, 2007, 09:30:54 AM »

Wow, I never knew there was a federal law about how many guns you could sell at once

Thanks all
Kid

Graybeard · « **Reply #22 on:** March 09, 2007, 11:11:59 AM »

Quote from: kid_couteau on March 09, 2007, 09:30:54 AM

Wow, I never knew there was a federal law about how many guns you could sell at once

Thanks all
Kid

I'm aware of no FEDERAL law on how many you can sell but many states have such laws. His e-mail stated he was going to transfer a gun out of state and not use an FFL to do so. I have no doubt folks do it from time to time but it's not legal nevertheless and if I ignored it then I'd be in trouble as well as him.

DalesCarpentry · « **Reply #23 on:** March 09, 2007, 12:16:15 PM »

Sorry to see him go but like you said it was not a smart move on his part.

Thems the rules!!!

kid_couteau · « **Reply #24 on:** March 09, 2007, 12:17:38 PM »

Gotta agree that would not be good to do

Need that FFL go between

Thanks for the info
Kid

Pharmboy · « **Reply #25 on:** March 09, 2007, 12:22:00 PM »

Now I know what's going on. You don't want to mess with the ATF!

Thanks for the clarification. I didn't know wht you were talking about.

Pharmboy

handi243 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 09, 2007, 01:51:07 PM »

Graybeard did the right thing i think the only thing that went well past the line. We are looked down on enough because we own buy and sell guns. I have had "offers" to sell without a FFL i work at a prison i don't look good in them jumpsuits

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BANG_OW · « **Reply #27 on:** March 09, 2007, 01:57:06 PM »

Doggoneit! They poor guy was just trying to pay his taxes. I know rules are rules, but he contributed a lot to this group. I also know you can't jeapordize the whole forum to one person making a mistake. What a shame, I gotta go back and re-read those rules and FAQ's. I'm sure that I and others probably jumped across the line a time or two. Doggoneit!

Bob_VT · « **Reply #28 on:** March 09, 2007, 02:12:09 PM »

Darn shame. I just was notified that a new rifle I ordered had arrived but I am not able to drive to pick it up (work hours changed)so.... since I really wanted the rifle I went and found a FFL gun shop to receive my rifle..... total cost for using the FFL $20 Less money then I would have spent in gas.

I am a firm believer in rules and regulations but that can be related to being Active Duty for 20 years and it sent that trend in stone.

goodwrench6710 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 09, 2007, 04:54:34 PM »

The rules are there for our own safety. Don't need the guns to fall into the wrong hands.