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Offline joshco84

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Pressures????
« on: January 28, 2007, 08:23:35 AM »
What pressure level do i need to stay under while handloading for the handi?  First off will be the 204.  I believe i remember somewhere around 50,000 but dont remember if this is right.

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Re: Pressures????
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2007, 08:27:14 AM »
also i am looking at powders for small caliber rifles and its looking like varget would be a pretty good all around powder for me.  204, 223, 243 will be future loadings.
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Re: Pressures????
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2007, 09:16:53 AM »
Any book load for up to the .30-06 class case head size will work fine using normal, safe loading procedures and load work up, but I try to use those powders that provide good velocity with less pressure compared to other powders. That's where using data that includes pressures is handy for a Handi!! Handi frame flex is the issue, the hotter loads tend to be hard on brass,  you'll start getting stuck brass usually long before you get the usual pressure signs, at least that's been my experience with numerous calibers in the Handi when working up loads.

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Re: Pressures????
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2007, 09:18:49 AM »
ok sounds good, just didnt want to blow her up in my face.  but also what about the powder.  what are you guys' favorite powders for small bores in handi's
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Re: Pressures????
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2007, 09:23:18 AM »
I was gonna give examples, Hodgdon's online data would be a good place to look to see what I mean, Hodgdon Extreme powders are my favorites in all calibers, but there are some exceptions.

Tim

http://www.hodgdon.com/data/rifle/index.php
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2007, 09:40:14 AM »
ok, i was actually looking at hogden's site earlier trying to decide on a powder that i could use for two or three guns that had good performance/low pressure capabilities.
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Re: Pressures????
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2007, 09:41:11 AM »
Josh, I wouldn't worry about a blow up! ;)

http://www.graybeardoutdoors.com/smf/index.php/topic,110067.msg1098331210.html#msg1098331210

Quote from: quickdtoo on January 27, 2007, 01:49:31 PM
Well, I doubt they would cause catastrophic damage, H&R proofs them at pressures well over those cartridges, but the underlug is a sacrificial component, the case head thrust of those DG calibers would cause the barrel to be loose in not too many shots just as Handi35's .300WSM did, but his SB2 frame was just fine.

To give you an idea of their strength, one member while at the range had a friend fire a 7.62x39 round in his new .243 Handi, bullet went down range, but the pressure jammed the barrel in the frame so it couldn't be broke open, he sent it to H&R, they replaced the barrel at his cost, frame was undamaged, much to his satisfaction and surprise!! :o

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Re: Pressures????
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2007, 11:03:45 AM »
josh ...

I have no clue what powder is best for your .204 but I do know I use Varget in some .223, .243, and .308 loads. I use H-335 in some .223 loads. Varget is very tolerant of temperature changes and that is one reason I stick with it. It doesn't meter well at all ... but, it doesn't matter to me.

Good luck with that .204 ... please let us know as you work your load development.
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Re: Pressures????
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2007, 11:53:36 AM »
yeah im just getting started, and i will probably buy the lee aniv. kit this week when i get the old paycheck.  probably wont buy components till next check, but it will give me time to see what grain of bullets it likes in factory loads so i know which to buy.

Also how did he get a the 7.62 into the chamber?? he would have had to push pretty durn hard. you would think a guy would notice something is wrong
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Re: Pressures????
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2007, 12:57:41 PM »
Quote from: joshco84 on January 28, 2007, 11:53:36 AM
Also how did he get a the 7.62 into the chamber?? he would have had to push pretty durn hard. you would think a guy would notice something is wrong


Evidently not, it happened!! ::) The 7.62 russian is short enough is must have seated the bullet at the shoulder/neck in the .243 chamber. In any event, it says a lot for Handi strength, the Russian round operates in a normal chamber at about 49kcup.

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Re: Pressures????
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2007, 01:43:58 PM »
yeah i didnt think about the round bein shorter than a 243
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Re: Pressures????
« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2007, 01:12:16 AM »
Josh, you might want to look at the Lee turret press kit. I started out years ago with the anniversary kit and really enjoyed it but for only $20 more you can get the turret press kit (it doesn't have the shell holders, hand held primer or load book like the anniversary kit does). I just bought one and so far I love it. You won't have to change out and re-adjust the dies after each operation and for loading multiple calibers you can just pop out one turret with the dies in it and pop in another one and start loading. Might be worth a look. Charlie
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