Wiith the Winchester plant closing, all Winchester rifles have skyrocketed in price. The Pre-64's were getting very collectable to begin with, and now they are more so. Unless you find one in a pawn shop, or one that the owner doesn't know what they have, you're going to pay out the wazoo for any Model 70. Model 94 lever actions are like that too. I've seen 94 Ranger 30-30's that Wal-Mart sold for $270 selling for upwards of $700 online now.