Good point Handiman but....................... I messed up the screws for the rings on my .300 Win Mag ,so I went with the Talley Lightweights which I love to death.On my .243 I had to use Warne Quick-Detach rings because I use 2 different scopes on the same rifle,one for deer and one for varmints.And on my 7mm I got it right and used the factory rings.I actually like all 3 set-ups,but if I had to choose 1 set it would have to be the Talley's.Cany beat them for the price,weight,strength and durability.Hope this helps..........