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bullet maker · « **Reply #60 on:** March 16, 2006, 05:32:51 AM »

Quote from: Telahnay's g'son

1. Was within 50 yards of #7 stand and observed your new "No Trespassing" signs with a couple of them on federal property as #6 stand still is which hasn't been moved per the demand of COE officials ~3 years ago.

2. There were no cattle calling last night whatsoever, at least until 22:00 HRS.

3. Are you saying you own 100% of the aforementioned road? Or, is it more like only the north half as the county commissioner told me last summer?

4. I don't have a copy of your (alleged) "BF/baby" picture so how could I post it on another site? Others do though which you had given to them w/o any restrictions.

5. Tow me off of federal property (w/o LE authorization) especially after I did not trespass on ANY of your property and I WILL OWN the 100 acres which will settle things for once and all.

6. There are two new residences (mobile homes) directly to the north of you, two stickbuilt homes going up to the ENE with a third platted out and three new homes within a mile to your south. Most of these have gone in SINCE greybeard's visit last summer.

I didn't start this pizzing contest, you did in particular after boasting of pictures superior to the P/G film and your past belligerent behavior on the bottomland access road with others. Surely, you didn't think (as you've boasted to several individuals about) pointing a firearm at coonhunters, booby trapping a road on federal property, vandalizing vehicles and poisoning neighbors' dogs was inappropriate behavior?

Well since you talked to the county commisoner you should know now shouldnt you. Pointing guns at coon hunters, poisning dog, etc, what are you talking about, You will get a chance to own the 100 acres, try me :twisted: :twisted: what are you doing bring up all these lie`s on a public forum. Is it because you know their lies, are , are you to scared to call me.?

YOu your self did have a copy of these pictures in question, dont try to weazle out, you will be amongst the ones named in th lawsuit. Now I`ll be down their TONIGHT, try me.

bullet maker

Telahnay's g'son · « **Reply #61 on:** March 16, 2006, 05:39:50 AM »

Quote from: bullet maker

Quote from: Telahnay's g'son
1. Was within 50 yards of #7 stand and observed your new "No Trespassing" signs with a couple of them on federal property as #6 stand still is which hasn't been moved per the demand of COE officials ~3 years ago.

2. There were no cattle calling last night whatsoever, at least until 22:00 HRS.

3. Are you saying you own 100% of the aforementioned road? Or, is it more like only the north half as the county commissioner told me last summer?

4. I don't have a copy of your (alleged) "BF/baby" picture so how could I post it on another site? Others do though which you had given to them w/o any restrictions.

5. Tow me off of federal property (w/o LE authorization) especially after I did not trespass on ANY of your property and I WILL OWN the 100 acres which will settle things for once and all.

6. There are two new residences (mobile homes) directly to the north of you, two stickbuilt homes going up to the ENE with a third platted out and three new homes within a mile to your south. Most of these have gone in SINCE greybeard's visit last summer.

I didn't start this pizzing contest, you did in particular after boasting of pictures superior to the P/G film and your past belligerent behavior on the bottomland access road with others. Surely, you didn't think (as you've boasted to several individuals about) pointing a firearm at coonhunters, booby trapping a road on federal property, vandalizing vehicles and poisoning neighbors' dogs was inappropriate behavior?

Well since you talked to the county commisoner you should know now shouldnt you. Pointing guns at coon hunters, poisning dog, etc, what are you talking about, You will get a chance to own the 100 acres, try me :twisted: :twisted: what are you doing bring up all these lie`s on a public forum. Is it because you know their lies, are , are you to scared to call me.?

YOu your self did have a copy of these pictures in question, dont try to weazle out, you will be amongst the ones named in th lawsuit. Now I`ll be down their TONIGHT, try me.

bullet maker

Perhaps you should ask WW, DG, Joe, Roy, DJ, Marty, Mike, et al. if my statements aren't true?

When I come down LE will be with me and we'll get it straight from the "man".

bullet maker · « **Reply #62 on:** March 16, 2006, 05:39:52 AM »

Quote from: D.G.

Graybeard, with all due respect I have to agree with the statements about the viability of the property and the development in that area. You were there one time for a short period. I am over on the corp of engineers land west of Bulletmakers at least twice a week. for the last 4 years.
Did you meet any of the Hillbilly neighbors that Bulletmaker waxed so eloquently about on this very site? The ones with the clean barefoot children that bring the jug out and sit around the campfire or the old Indian medicine man? Just like out of a "Foxfire" book.
I haven't either, and I was raised in and roamed that area since 1972.
Food for thought.

well now thats funny D.G. for the 4 years, that is, I aint never seen you but the time you was trespassing looking for your coon dogs, :roll: uh huh.
You speaking of something you know nothing about , when you talk about the people out here. Have you gone to the houses, and introduced yourself?

? then why are you calling me a liar?

bullet maker

bullet maker · « **Reply #63 on:** March 16, 2006, 05:43:11 AM »

Quote from: Telahnay's g'son

Quote from: bullet maker
Quote from: Telahnay's g'son
1. Was within 50 yards of #7 stand and observed your new "No Trespassing" signs with a couple of them on federal property as #6 stand still is which hasn't been moved per the demand of COE officials ~3 years ago.

2. There were no cattle calling last night whatsoever, at least until 22:00 HRS.

3. Are you saying you own 100% of the aforementioned road? Or, is it more like only the north half as the county commissioner told me last summer?

4. I don't have a copy of your (alleged) "BF/baby" picture so how could I post it on another site? Others do though which you had given to them w/o any restrictions.

5. Tow me off of federal property (w/o LE authorization) especially after I did not trespass on ANY of your property and I WILL OWN the 100 acres which will settle things for once and all.

6. There are two new residences (mobile homes) directly to the north of you, two stickbuilt homes going up to the ENE with a third platted out and three new homes within a mile to your south. Most of these have gone in SINCE greybeard's visit last summer.

I didn't start this pizzing contest, you did in particular after boasting of pictures superior to the P/G film and your past belligerent behavior on the bottomland access road with others. Surely, you didn't think (as you've boasted to several individuals about) pointing a firearm at coonhunters, booby trapping a road on federal property, vandalizing vehicles and poisoning neighbors' dogs was inappropriate behavior?

Well since you talked to the county commisoner you should know now shouldnt you. Pointing guns at coon hunters, poisning dog, etc, what are you talking about, You will get a chance to own the 100 acres, try me :twisted: :twisted: what are you doing bring up all these lie`s on a public forum. Is it because you know their lies, are , are you to scared to call me.?

YOu your self did have a copy of these pictures in question, dont try to weazle out, you will be amongst the ones named in th lawsuit. Now I`ll be down their TONIGHT, try me.

bullet maker

Perhaps you should ask WW, DG, Joe, Roy, DJ, Marty, Mike, et al. if my statements aren't true?

When I come down LE will be with me and we'll get it straight from the "man".

what is a LE, and when you want this to happen?

?? lets do it- I`ll be your huckelberry.

bullet maker · « **Reply #64 on:** March 16, 2006, 05:48:27 AM »

Quote from: woodswatcher

now this is funny...
i dont care who you are...

housing of various types and land manipulation has been going on steadily in the past couple of years..

there is no NATIONAL FOREST within 100 miles of BM's land.

the only land that borders him is either private property or federal land owned by the Army Corps of Engineers for flood control ( available for fishing and hunting) and some state department of wildife land for public hunting.

there are several people ( some of which ar lurkers here or post here) that know a HELLUVA lot about the area..

dont believe everything you see on the internet...

So whats your point?

I didnt call it a National Forest, Graybeard made a comment that he thought I told him it was either a National Forest, or public hunting. I guess thats what your talking about right?

?

It is owned by the Corps but it is public hunting, were not disputing that, whats being disputed is the entrance and it aint on me. got it.

bullet maker

Telahnay's g'son · « **Reply #65 on:** March 16, 2006, 05:50:59 AM »

Quote from: bullet maker

Quote from: D.G.
Graybeard, with all due respect I have to agree with the statements about the viability of the property and the development in that area. You were there one time for a short period. I am over on the corp of engineers land west of Bulletmakers at least twice a week. for the last 4 years.
Did you meet any of the Hillbilly neighbors that Bulletmaker waxed so eloquently about on this very site? The ones with the clean barefoot children that bring the jug out and sit around the campfire or the old Indian medicine man? Just like out of a "Foxfire" book.
I haven't either, and I was raised in and roamed that area since 1972.
Food for thought.

well now thats funny D.G. for the 4 years, that is, I aint never seen you but the time you was trespassing looking for your coon dogs, :roll: uh huh.
You speaking of something you know nothing about , when you talk about the people out here. Have you gone to the houses, and introduced yourself? ? then why are you calling me a liar?

bullet maker

BM,

Time to back off and chill out. You know DG has been in your home dozens of times as have I and we even purchased hunting leases from you, as recent as last season.

I don't know what your motivation was to suddenly start promoting the "pictures" but have a good idea. Want to settle things? Take Wildlifephotographer (or some else so qualified) up on his offer and have a critical analysis performed. A confidentiality agreement (which you don't have with anyone currently in possession of copies) with him, etc. will cover any so-called "copyright" issue you may have.

D.G. · « **Reply #66 on:** March 16, 2006, 06:03:51 AM »

Didn't see me? Imagine that. That is because I didn't want you to see me. I have been working the corp lands. Like I said around the campfire concerning your contract "I would kill one on public, or if it was on your side of the fence I would drag it over on public in a heartbeat." and you would never know.
And I was looking for my coondog, I have lost dogs twice over there, that your neighbors were so kind as to catch and call me so I have been knocking on doors and getting aquainted with the neighbors. Everyone within 2 miles that was home at the time.
Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

bullet maker · « **Reply #67 on:** March 16, 2006, 06:07:28 AM »

Quote from: Telahnay's g'son

Quote from: bullet maker
Quote from: D.G.
Graybeard, with all due respect I have to agree with the statements about the viability of the property and the development in that area. You were there one time for a short period. I am over on the corp of engineers land west of Bulletmakers at least twice a week. for the last 4 years.
Did you meet any of the Hillbilly neighbors that Bulletmaker waxed so eloquently about on this very site? The ones with the clean barefoot children that bring the jug out and sit around the campfire or the old Indian medicine man? Just like out of a "Foxfire" book.
I haven't either, and I was raised in and roamed that area since 1972.
Food for thought.

well now thats funny D.G. for the 4 years, that is, I aint never seen you but the time you was trespassing looking for your coon dogs, :roll: uh huh.
You speaking of something you know nothing about , when you talk about the people out here. Have you gone to the houses, and introduced yourself? ? then why are you calling me a liar?

bullet maker

BM,

Time to back off and chill out. You know DG has been in your home dozens of times as have I and we even purchased hunting leases from you, as recent as last season.

I don't know what your motivation was to suddenly start promoting the "pictures" but have a good idea. Want to settle things? Take Wildlifephotographer (or some else so qualified) up on his offer and have a critical analysis performed. A confidentiality agreement (which you don't have with anyone currently in possession of copies) with him, etc. will cover any so-called "copyright" issue you may have.

Yes I gree with you for once, its time for us ALL to chill out and be rational. And yes you and I and D.G. use to be friends, thats why I dont understand why you guy`s were ganging up on me.This name calling and accusations, are getting out of hand. As you well know I have been absent from this site for a good many of weeks, and saw all the flaming going on about the pictures, if thats what really started it all. Yes you are right i did say they were better than the Patterson tapes, and I still stand by that.
Yes I am going through the process with a well known expert that you all have heard of (M.K. Davis) to view and critique this photo. I have mr Davis`s phone no. And have left two messagess and have found out he will be out of town for a week.

Also their was a guy named (fireman) from the Squatchdetective.com site that did come down and view the picture. He was very impressed. You can go to the site mentioned and view his comments. But please be nice. I`m 2 chiggers over their. And also this just isn`t for you only, all who view this site are welcome on the site. It is a very nice site. Very small site but all of the people are looking for answers also, and very nice people.

Now back to the road issure, you let me know when you want to bring you LE, and I`ll prove to you what I`ve always said about the road. You have to park on the west side of the public area and foot assess only.

bullet maker

bullet maker · « **Reply #68 on:** March 16, 2006, 07:53:02 AM »

Quote from: D.G.

Didn't see me? Imagine that. That is because I didn't want you to see me. I have been working the corp lands. Like I said around the campfire concerning your contract "I would kill one on public, or if it was on your side of the fence I would drag it over on public in a heartbeat." and you would never know.
And I was looking for my coondog, I have lost dogs twice over there, that your neighbors were so kind as to catch and call me so I have been knocking on doors and getting aquainted with the neighbors. Everyone within 2 miles that was home at the time.
Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't happening.

You know D.G., you probably could do that, but by the simple fact of makeing a statement like you did, just goes to show where your honesty and credibility lie. :roll:

bullet maker

D.G. · « **Reply #69 on:** March 16, 2006, 08:12:42 AM »

Yes you are looking up at it, My honesty and credibility are several notches higher than yours.
This will be proven when the final BS is cleared.

Telahnay's g'son · « **Reply #70 on:** March 16, 2006, 09:50:37 AM »

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Telahnay's g'son · « **Reply #71 on:** March 16, 2006, 10:01:03 AM »

Had lunch today with LE guys that have 36 years combined law enforcement experience and this is what they had to say;

1. Towing vehicles;

A. IF it's on private property you do not hafta contact LE prior to having a vehicle towed.

B. IF it's on federal property you had best leave said vehicle totally unmolested.

2. The "road" itself;

A. The county reverted it back to the landowners several years ago. However, each landowners' property line stops at the middle of said road.

B. Therefore, if a person travels the south side of said road NO TRESPASS has been committed to the northside property owner.

3. General access to COE/ODWC lands;

A. The regulations state that no adjacent landowner may prohibit foot access to said lands even if that means walking across a landowners' property to gain access. The COE office in Tulsa has copies of these regs for any interested party.

NONYA · « **Reply #72 on:** March 16, 2006, 11:03:10 AM »

I think you guys just wrote the screenplay for Deliverance 2 ,BM either post the pics or shut up about them please. :roll:BTW Welcome Back i missed U!

Telahnay's g'son · « **Reply #73 on:** March 16, 2006, 11:33:31 AM »

ELVIS, has left the building!

bullet maker · « **Reply #74 on:** March 16, 2006, 12:55:13 PM »

Quote from: D.G.

Yes you are looking up at it, My honesty and credibility are several notches higher than yours.
This will be proven when the final BS is cleared.

Come on out and say exactly what you mean, quit the smoke screen. What is the BS, you keep talking about.

bullet maker

bullet maker · « **Reply #75 on:** March 16, 2006, 01:06:11 PM »

Quote from: Telahnay's g'son

Had lunch today with LE guys that have 36 years combined law enforcement experience and this is what they had to say;

1. Towing vehicles;

A. IF it's on private property you do not hafta contact LE prior to having a vehicle towed.

B. IF it's on federal property you had best leave said vehicle totally unmolested.

2. The "road" itself;

A. The county reverted it back to the landowners several years ago. However, each landowners' property line stops at the middle of said road.

B. Therefore, if a person travels the south side of said road NO TRESPASS has been committed to the northside property owner.

3. General access to COE/ODWC lands;

A. The regulations state that no adjacent landowner may prohibit foot access to said lands even if that means walking across a landowners' property to gain access. The COE office in Tulsa has copies of these regs for any interested party.

Where are these LE`s stationed, not rogers county, I assume, I dont care what they say, I got my advice from an Rogers County attorney. I think the attorney, has a little more grasp of the law than the LE`S. Dont you?
As far as the not being able to tow the vehicle on Fed property. You have to get to the public hunting through me. DUH :eek: Now if your on the west side of said place of publick hunting land, then yes you are right.
Now to your presumtion that you can use half the road. Well sir, half the road is covered with down trees, guess who`s side is not :eek: thats right mine.
far as walking to the public hunting down a private road, You are wrong again. Because there is an entry on the west side. Now if their was no other entry, into public hunting, then yes you would be correct. However there is another entery on the west side. Therefore surrounding land owners, do not have to allow you entry.

Like I was saying TelG Son, I been here for 18 years, and I know the law. If you want to try me, lets go for it.

I`ll be waiting.

bullet maker

NONYA · « **Reply #76 on:** March 16, 2006, 01:22:55 PM »

Both of you guys do me a favor and film your showdown for me,Ill need the footage when I pitch my idea for deleverance II to Tom Hanks,gittiton!!

Telahnay's g'son · « **Reply #77 on:** March 16, 2006, 04:43:52 PM »

Let me worry about which side of the boundary marker to drive in on. That is, unless you've booby trapped that portion of the road as well.

I'm glad you know the law. Then, you should also know that shooting/poisoning dogs is felony animal abuse in Oklahoma. The ~8 folks you've bragged to about that (as well as the road booby traps) have kept quiet so far but I wouldn't go broadcasting it any further, eh? :eek:

Graybeard · « **Reply #78 on:** March 16, 2006, 04:54:13 PM »

OK that's quite enough of the argument over access to the land and land ownership on open forum. It's totally off topic and not appropriate to this or any other forum on the site. Take it to e-mails or PMs or phone or even face to face but NOT HERE.

Let's get back to what the forum is intended for discussing things seen in the outdoors.

WmRoy · « **Reply #79 on:** March 16, 2006, 04:56:07 PM »

Quote from: Graybeard

OK that's quite enough of the argument over access to the land and land ownership on open forum. It's totally off topic and not appropriate to this or any other forum on the site. Take it to e-mails or PMs or phone or even face to face but NOT HERE.

Let's get back to what the forum is intended for discussing things seen in the outdoors.

Thank You!!!

bullet maker · « **Reply #80 on:** March 16, 2006, 05:21:08 PM »

I totally agree with you graybeard.

bullet maker

Graybeard · « **Reply #81 on:** March 17, 2006, 04:30:17 AM »

OK clearly some of you either cannot read or do not believef me when I say enough is enough. I've removed the last spat of inflammatory posts and I'm locking this thread.

I'm also putting each of you who have been involved in this mess on notice: ONE MORE SUCH OUT BURST AND YOU ARE GONE AS A GBO MEMBER.

I don't know how to make it anymore clear. Cross the line on the rules here again and your membership is terminated. I told you the personal business between you guys had no place here but you seem to think it does. Try it again and see.