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Offline Gallahad

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how much less recoil?
« on: September 28, 2006, 08:36:59 AM »
how much less recoil is there in a 270 compared to a 30-06? Is it noticable?

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Re: how much less recoil?
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2006, 10:06:41 AM »
how much less recoil is there in a 270 compared to a 30-06? Is it noticable?

  Lots of variables in that request but to get you started. The 06 with a 150 gr  and the .270 with a 150 gr are close.
   The 06......17.6 ft pounds of recoil energy.
   The .270.....17 ft pounds of recoil energy.
   
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Re: how much less recoil?
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2006, 11:24:38 AM »
 I've shot .270's that kick more than 06's and vise versa. In my opinion the diffrence in recoil isn't noticable. The stock fit of a particular rifle will have much more of an effect on felt reciol than the diffrence between .270 vs 06.

 If you had two indentcal rifles in the two cartriges and preformed a blind test I doubt you'ed be able to tell the diffrence.

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Re: how much less recoil?
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2006, 11:51:43 AM »
I had two Rem 7600's one in 06 and 270. Sold the 270. But I couldn't tell much difference in recoil. I'm sure there was probably some but I bet If I shot not knowing which rifle it was it would have been a guess based on recoil alone.

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Re: how much less recoil?
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2006, 11:58:15 AM »
If using identical guns with same bullet weights, then the difference is not noticeable - if any.

If using different guns (meaning different stock designs, stock and barrel weight, etc.) then the heavier/better fit gun will reduce felt recoil.

I once used my father's Remington wood stocked BDL in 30-06 with a STEEL butt-plate and 180 grain bullets.  It darn near knocked me on my butt!  Shot a .30-06 in my other gun with a properly fit HS stock and pachmyer recoil pad, also using 180 grain bullets, and it was MUCH more comfortable to shoot.

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Re: how much less recoil?
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2006, 05:13:54 AM »
I own a Rem 30/06 and a Win. 270 and I'd say that they both are real close to the same recoil.

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Re: how much less recoil?
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2006, 05:52:46 AM »
I don't notice a difference. If you're a handloader and want lighter recoil, try loading to the starting loads. There's usually a couple of hundred fps difference, and it makes a surprising difference in the amount of recoil. That might be a good approach for preparing practice ammo.
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Re: how much less recoil?
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2006, 10:58:49 AM »
As Jeff Cooper (RIP) says, recoil is there but it can be overcome.

In the field, you shoot, and recoil is not a problem.

No one likes to get "beat up". but the problem usually occurs at the bench and only when shooting long strings. So bundle up wear good hearing and eye protection and donot shout more than three rounds at one time.

If you want to use me as a benchmark, here is a real situation. I am 70 years old and on a blood thinner. When you are on a blood thinner you bruise easliy. I have  a Springfield A303 in 30-06 caliber. Someone before me "sporterized" it. It nows weights just 7 lbs. all up front. I shot about 25 rounds through it recently to get it "zeroed". Narry a sign of a bruise on my shoulder when I got home. I'm guessing, but at 7 lbs, I'm getting about 20 ft pds of recoil.





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Re: how much less recoil?
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2006, 12:20:29 PM »
My savage .3006 kicks pretty good...My remington CDL .270 barely kicks at all. the savage has a plastic stock and a thin rubber recoil pad, the remmy has a walnut stock and the R3 reciol pad. I think the R3 pad really makes a big difference..I plan on a houge overmoulded stock and a limb saver for the savage..

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Re: how much less recoil?
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2006, 12:33:14 PM »
How come nobody ever discusses shooting position when discussing recoil?

I notice a huge difference at least in pain felt when shooting while standing verses shooting from a bench. 

I suppose there would be a noticeable difference in the fit of the bench as well.  For example if the gun rest and bench are too low you'll hunch over the gun and you'll be leaning into it.  But if the rest were up higher, your back will be more upright.  I imagine that when your back is upright, it is more supple and can swing backwards with the recoil.  When you're leaning forward, into the buttplate, you can't move back with recoil.

With my .35 Whelen, I've noticed that I'll hop around a bit after recoil to regain balance when I'm standing up.  It's more like I just got pushed off balance.  But with the same gun on the bench, I feel like I got punched in the shoulder.  (This is using 280 grain bullets)
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