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Offline jasonprox700

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Ruger, Remington, or Sako
« on: September 20, 2006, 07:41:48 AM »
I currently own a Ruger in .280 Rem.  Good gun, shoots good, but I don't like the action.  It has a "sticky" feeling to it, like it is binding up or something.  I give it thorough cleanings regularly.  I've thought about trading it in and getting a different brand.  I have always been partial to Remington, but recently, I shot a 7MM in the Sako.  I loved it, the way it shot, the smoothness of the action, and the overall feel.  Could I take my gun to a gunsmith to some how get them to make the action a little smoother?  I've shot a few older Rugers, (Mark I & Mark II models) that have had some use, and the action seems a little better.  My little brother has a .25-06 with a medium weight barrel, and his action seems smoother.  I just wanted some opinions on what to do.

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Re: Ruger, Remington, or Sako
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2006, 07:52:42 AM »
A gunsmith should be able to smooth out the action.  I had this done on my Winchester M70 Classic Stainless in .375H&H Mag.  Whoooaaaaa!  What a difference! (at least on my rifle).  It is as smooth as silk...even smoother than my Tikkas!

Now, I'm not sure if the reason that you have your "sticky" problem stems from something more significant, like a design feature or damage to a part of the gun.  If that is the case, then "Jewelling" the bolt/action may not help.

My advice is first take your gun to a gunsmith and let him examine and evaluate the problem.  He should be able to give you an honest opinion about what to do, and how much it should cost.

Then, if it costs too much, for whatever reason, then you can certainly buy a remington M700 or a Sako 75 or a Tikka, which I consider to be better quality guns than the Remington (although I am also a remington fan as well).

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Re: Ruger, Remington, or Sako
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2006, 05:56:01 AM »
was it a sako 75 in 7mm? if it is, that is what i shoot for deer and man that is a sweet shooting gun, heavy to pack but worth it.
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Re: Ruger, Remington, or Sako
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2006, 10:15:14 AM »
I like Remington's myself.....and the 280 Rem. just happens to be my favorite "deer/black bear" cartridge! I would have a gunsmith check it out and see if they can smooth the action out and take it from there.
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Re: Ruger, Remington, or Sako
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2006, 06:46:38 AM »
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Re: Ruger, Remington, or Sako
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2006, 07:14:27 AM »
No, seriously, I had the same experience when I was presented with a Ruger M77 in 6.5x55. I REALLY like the caliber, and the action seemed to be pretty solid, but I just couldn't get past what I perceived to be lack of finish - considerable binding when you cycled the bolt. Also, triggers are notoriously heavy.

Remington: don't like the stamped metal trigger assembly and safety. Braised-on bolt handle. Never mind the "three rings of steel" hype.

Sako: You noticed yourself. Smooth action, great trigger, 3-lug one-piece bolt, excellent hammer forged barrels, excellent feel when you shoulder it, 1" accuracy guarantee. Wood to metal finish: excellent. Overall quality is top-notch - but you're paying alot more.  Not everyone likes the price but there's always a market for a quality product.  :)

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Re: Ruger, Remington, or Sako
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2006, 07:54:56 AM »
If you can afford the Sako than go for it,life is short enjoy it while you can. I would much sooner have a Sako than a Ruger.  ;D

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Re: Ruger, Remington, or Sako
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2006, 08:44:06 AM »
I do love the Sako rifles but my newest one is 35 years old so I cannot speak about the new ones.
I do have a Rem 700 Classic that is a good shooter but nowhere as smooth as the old Sakos

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Re: Ruger, Remington, or Sako
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2006, 11:34:04 PM »
I do love the Sako rifles but my newest one is 35 years old so I cannot speak about the new ones.
I do have a Rem 700 Classic that is a good shooter but nowhere as smooth as the old Sakos
I only have one and its 45-46 yrs old. I'd be happy with at least a couple more just like it!

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Re: Ruger, Remington, or Sako
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2006, 01:12:45 AM »
The Remingtons are very accurate.  I'm thinking about a Styer.

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Re: Ruger, Remington, or Sako
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2006, 07:29:39 AM »
I do love the Sako rifles but my newest one is 35 years old so I cannot speak about the new ones.
I do have a Rem 700 Classic that is a good shooter but nowhere as smooth as the old Sakos
I only have one and its 45-46 yrs old. I'd be happy with at least a couple more just like it!

I have never found a way to get a born on date for a Sako. I know of several websites for other brands but none for Sako...any help??

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Re: Ruger, Remington, or Sako
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2006, 07:57:20 AM »
Mine is a pretty easy guesstimate as it was a limited run for Colt and has a low serial #,but you could try the Sako Collectors Club forum on Msn. I'll send you a PM.

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Re: Ruger, Remington, or Sako
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2006, 08:10:30 AM »
Never had a Sako, but ALL my Rem. & Rugers shoot under 1''. Both rem & ruger triggers are very easy to fix. All of mine are very crisp and light, and all are factory triggers, no replacements. Some complain about ruger bolts feeling sloppy. Maybe just the nature of the beast, but when the bolt closes,I know were the bullet is going. Wound't trade none of my rugers OR rem for a smooth action that ain't accurate.  DRIVE FOR SHOW, PUTT FOR DOUGH.

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Re: Ruger, Remington, or Sako
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Re: Ruger, Remington, or Sako
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2006, 06:39:26 AM »
One thing to keep in mind; Remingtons have carbon steel barrels and Sako's have chrome-moly barrels and thus will last longer. On the other hand Remingtons shoot better or can be made to shoot better and have lots of after-market stuff that fits.  My 0.02.

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Re: Ruger, Remington, or Sako
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2006, 02:12:49 PM »

 DRIVE FOR SHOW, PUTT FOR DOUGH.
 

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Sigma, That's an old golf saying. Translated here to , you can have all the bells and  whistles, just give me my Remys and Rugers that I know are shooters.

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Re: Ruger, Remington, or Sako
« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2006, 08:20:55 AM »
Boy this is a tought Question ;D     SAKO ..how can you even compare the other 2 unless you want to save money ?  Always buy what your really want(within reason of course) you'l be much much happier with your purchase. 
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Re: Ruger, Remington, or Sako
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2006, 05:28:58 AM »
I currently own a Ruger in .280 Rem.  Good gun, shoots good, but I don't like the action.  It has a "sticky" feeling to it, like it is binding up or something.  I give it thorough cleanings regularly.  I've thought about trading it in and getting a different brand.  I have always been partial to Remington, but recently, I shot a 7MM in the Sako.  I loved it, the way it shot, the smoothness of the action, and the overall feel.  Could I take my gun to a gunsmith to some how get them to make the action a little smoother?  I've shot a few older Rugers, (Mark I & Mark II models) that have had some use, and the action seems a little better.  My little brother has a .25-06 with a medium weight barrel, and his action seems smoother.  I just wanted some opinions on what to do.

Sako 75's are very nice rifles and the actions are indeed very smooth.  BUT, the Sako rifles are heavy to carry deer hunting all day.  They do make the "Finlight" but the barrel is rather short for my taste.  There has been a few reports about them locking up in extreme cold as well but I never had that experience.  Sako's are also very expensive and not in the league of the a Ruger or Remington.  If a Ruger is a cheap Chevy, the Sako is a Mercedes. 

If you cannot live with that Ruger you have, think about a Remington.  The actions can be made super smooth (with a bit of grease on the edges of the twin locking lugs) and the new Limbsaver recoil pad is great.  Remingtons have a nice trigger, are superbly accurate and very reliable.  Take a look at a Remington 700 CDL...I think you'll like it. 

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Re: Ruger, Remington, or Sako
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2006, 06:22:21 AM »
A gunsmith should be able to fix the problem. I had a simular problem with one of my rifles. I took it to a gunsmith and he bedded tha action and that solved the problem. It was hard to open the bolt and the trigger pull got real hard.