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New Law finally passed.....Rejoice!
« on: September 02, 2006, 02:54:17 AM »
It's been shot down for years, but finally passed this summer.  We can take our teenagers handgun hunting!  They dropped the age down to 14, as long as accompanied by parent/guardian with a permit.  I can just picture it now, me and my sons in the woods, one with a .357, one with a .41 mag, and one with a .45LC All S&W wheelguns, naturally...
Anybody else like this law?
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Re: New Law finally passed.....Rejoice!
« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2006, 05:32:55 AM »
I like the law change but your sons can not hunt with handguns in New York State until they are 21 years old.  They have to have a pistol permit first and the age is 21 years old.

I started my bow archery hunting back in about 87 when the archery age was 14. I think it was the best thing I ever did for him. 
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Re: New Law finally passed.....Rejoice!
« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2006, 05:50:51 AM »
Dave, did you read the new law, or are you going by old info?  The reason the law finally passed is because the old wording was in conflict with the Penal Law.  I don't have the article in front of me, and I couldn't find it on DEC website, but it definitely stated that there was a legal way teenagers can handgun hunt.
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Re: New Law finally passed.....Rejoice!
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2006, 08:16:55 AM »
keep us posted Rage! As you probably already know................ I think it's GREAT!  :) ;)
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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2006, 03:08:24 PM »
I read it in the latest "Outdoor News"  I might have to go buy a copy, instead of reading someone else's.
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Re: New Law finally passed.....Rejoice!
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2006, 10:00:34 AM »
I thought that you could only take underage handgun shooters to approved ranges and Rod and Gun clubs that had approved ranges.  I don't remember reading anything about handgun hunting...I'll have to research further.
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Re: New Law finally passed.....Rejoice!
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2006, 05:59:58 PM »
"under legal adult supervision at shooting ranges."    How does that mean you can take them handgun hunting? 

And from the NYSDEC Pages:

Handgun*- any centerfire pistol or revolver. Barrel length maximum is 16 inches

(NOTE: Possession of handguns in New York State requires a NYS Pistol Permit. New York does not recognize permits issued by other states.)



Youth pistol bill suddenly passes state Legislature

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 2:55 PM CDT

By Don Lehman Contributing Writer

Albany - Teens as young as 14 can legally shoot pistols in a controlled setting under a law enacted in New York earlier this summer.

The new statute was hailed as the first new pro-gun law in New York in a decade.

Signed by Gov. George Pataki, it will allow New York youth to learn to use handguns under legal adult supervision at shooting ranges.

The law previously had allowed only those 18 and older to use handguns, and critics argued it hampered children in New York who wanted to take part in Olympic shooting sports.

“This is a law we’ve been trying to get passed for as long as I can remember,” said Tom King, president of the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association, which had pushed heavily for the law change.
The National Rifle Association and National Shooting Sports Foundation had also supported the change.

The law allows teens to learn to use handguns at a range or place of business established for “conservation purposes or to foster proficiency in small arms or at a target pistol shooting competition.” That’s legal jargon for fish and game clubs and other sportsmen’s organizations that operate shooting ranges.

In addition to allowing teens to use handguns at an earlier age to train for shooting sports, it will also expose more youths to sporting activities like hunting, King said.

“Its benefits are twofold,” he said.

King said bills that would have changed the age to shoot a pistol or revolver had failed in the Legislature several times in recent years, always failing to get through the Democrat-controlled Assembly.

This time around, its wording was changed so that it exempted the teens from the Penal Law instead of changing the law itself.

King said he did not know why the bill got through the Assembly this year. In fact, a year after it had been shot down in the Assembly, only 12 Assembly members voted against it.

“It’s just speculation on my part, but I think that it’s partly because it’s an election year and I think the Assembly sees we (the NYSRPA) have become much more organized,” he said.

It was sponsored in the Assembly by western New York Democrat Francine DelMonte and in the Senate by western New York Republican Dale Volker.

King said Assemblyman James Tedisco, R-Schenectady, the Assembly’s minority leader, was instrumental in getting the bill passed. Tedisco has received the NYSRPA’s Legislator of the Year award for 2006.

The law took effect immediately upon Pataki’s signing it on July 31.
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Re: New Law finally passed.....Rejoice!
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2006, 08:54:45 AM »
Dave, thanks for posting the article.  I guess I read it too fast and saw what I wanted to see.  Anyway, its still good.
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2006, 06:03:34 PM »
Raging:  If I am out 1-2 miles back in the woods and my son is at my side....................you are the only one around, who cares if he shoots a deer with a handgun.  My son started shooting handguns back in NY when he was four.  Yes four.  He has never gotten into handguns but shotgun and archery hunts with a vengence. 

The best news story I could hear from NY would be that Charles Schulmer and Hillary Clinton had an affair, Billy caught, shot them both and went to electric chair.  In the mean time I am in Alaska and returning for deer seasons. ::)
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Re: New Law finally passed.....Rejoice!
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2006, 07:42:09 AM »
Raging:  If I am out 1-2 miles back in the woods and my son is at my side....................you are the only one around, who cares if he shoots a deer with a handgun.  My son started shooting handguns back in NY when he was four.  Yes four.  He has never gotten into handguns but shotgun and archery hunts with a vengence. 

The best news story I could hear from NY would be that Charles Schulmer and Hillary Clinton had an affair, Billy caught, shot them both and went to electric chair.  In the mean time I am in Alaska and returning for deer seasons. ::)

Awesome... Couldn't agree with you more.  Looks like I'll be coming home from the US Navy here in W.V. to hunt in 7J this year. 

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Re: New Law finally passed.....Rejoice!
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2006, 01:05:04 PM »
Hey Dave...Thanks for posting that article...I just never got around to doing it...
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Re: New Law finally passed.....Rejoice!
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2006, 06:20:06 AM »
Well, my boys are still too young to hunt, but CULPRIT, I will be handgun hunting this season in 7J, I have a doe tag down there.  Thank you for serving our country, btw.
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2006, 09:22:46 AM »
I'll be hunting in the Bear Swamp area near the south end of scaneateles lake.    I had some issues with the Decals system getting my license but one hone call to the Sportsmans Den in Whitney Point cleared everything up.  I ended up with a DMP permit for 7J.  My dad has two as well.  Of all the years I have had to get archery supplies I have always been impressed with the customer service from the Sportsmans Den.

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Re: New Law finally passed.....Rejoice!
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2006, 02:23:30 PM »
Now my son (11 yrs old) will really be bugging me to get my handgun liscense - so he can shoot!  Maybe I should get Farm Bureau to push to add farm kids shooting on the farm to the exemption!