.410 in .444??

[killswitharrows]

I'm currently trying to buy a Winchester Timber Carbine in .444.

Can anyone tell me if a .410 shell can be fire from it? I've also heard that a .410 shell can be fired from a 45-70. Is that true?

Thanks in advance.

[Mikey]

I was thinking the same thing a while back but I think someone talked me out of it.  I know there are some handguns chambered for the 45 Colt/410 ga and I know the 410 fits into the 444 chamber but I don't think if feeds through the action - I think the rifle would have be loaded one round at a time and I don't know what kind of accuracy you would get from a rifled bore and pellets.  Mikey.

[killswitharrows]

I was just asking becasue it would be nice to load a single .410 round in and bust a fools hen while elk hunting. That provides some good eating in camp! The shell doesn't need to cycle fully, just fire and extract.

 

[Chuck White]

killswitharrows

Yes you can shoot 410 shells in your 444!
I have only fired the 2 1/2 inch in mine, haven't tried the 3 in.
They will fire and they will extract!
They would be very effective on the "fool hens", I know you can sometimes get pretty close!
The case will swell considerably more in the 444 chamber than it would in a 410 chamber, so, in my opinion, they're throw-away's!
As stated by Mikey, they won't work through the action! Single shot only!

Whenever I use my 444 for deer hunting, I usually carry a few 410 shells!
I know they are good to 10-15 yards on grouse!  That's the farthest I've shot!

[crow_feather]

Instead of makin noise, carry a simple lightweight sling shot in your back pocket with a few 00 buck pellets. Last year, I did notice that the forrest grouse were a little bit more skittish than before.

C F

[jro45]

I shoot my 45 Colt /410 contender pistol with rifling in the barrel and I get a very small group at 15 yds with 3" shells.

[Chuck White]

jro45
Only difference you have is that you have a choke tube for your 45/410 and once installed, it's supposed to stop the spiral motion that the rifling imparts on the wad and shot!

[jro45]

I do have a chock that screws into the barrel that helps the group to be small. It still has rifling in it thats a b.... to clean out with all that lead in the shot shell. I know its not as big as the .444 also.

[Chuck White]

It doesn't seem to me like you should have much of a leading problem!
The shot is contained in a wad cup!

[jro45]

Well I do. I have a time getting the lead out of the rifling. I thought that the shot cup would help prevent this. I not really sure there is a cup in 410 shells with all the lead that gets into my rifling. Maybe that was over looked with the box I shot. You know the old saying (censored word) happens.


I ended up shooting a 45 Colt bullet threw it to get the lead out.