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Offline calvon

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400 Whelen
« on: July 14, 2006, 06:27:35 AM »
I have a Mauser 98 action that is begging for a barrel. What about a .400 Whelen? Is there enough shoulder left to assure proper headspace?

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Re: 400 Whelen
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2006, 07:04:38 AM »
Nope. But the .375 on the improved case works OK.

Reportedly, the .411 Hawk works OK, too.

http://www.z-hat.com/411%20Hawk.htm
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Re: 400 Whelen
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2006, 02:51:32 PM »
There are several versions of the 400 out there, and most of the drawings you see of it are wrong. The proper one is bigger at the body/shoulder junction than a 35 Whelen, and works fine. If you want one, make sure you know which reamer your 'smith has, and that your dies match it. Otherwise you'll have a real hassle.
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Re: 400 Whelen
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2006, 04:32:04 PM »
No reason that the .40 whelen won't work if the reamer is spec'd properly.  Big Bore Rifles and Cartridges covers it I think.  Ken Howell also does in his manual of cartridge conversions. 

I went a slightly different route.  I built a .44 Whelen, the .429 express.  It is a .30-06 blown out straight to .429 caliber, and headspaces on the mouth.  It works flawlessly in my mauser.  It will push a 300 grain bullet to 2400 fps, with Powley computer estimating 55,000 psi, similar to the .270.

This is a real cheap wildcat.  Chamber it with the .444 marlin reamer.  I lengthened my chamber with a 7/16" chucking reamer, which squares up the chamber end some to help headspace cleaner.  Fireform the brass with 8 grains of red dot and a case full of cream of wheat.  Use .444 marlin dies to load it.  With a slight chamfer at the chamber end of the barrel, it feeds in my mauser without modification. 

I invented this independently, and then found out that Ken Howell had done the same.  Still later, I found that Elmer Keith had done it a long time ago.  It's not a new wildcat.  Only real drawback is the lack of good .44 caliber bullets.

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Re: 400 Whelen
« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2006, 07:19:54 PM »
I have a Mauser 98 action that is begging for a barrel. What about a .400 Whelen? Is there enough shoulder left to assure proper headspace?

Based on the vast majority of opinions, I'd stick with .375 as the largest.  Very little (if any) will be gained from the 400.
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Re: 400 Whelen
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2006, 03:06:48 AM »
I have  a .411 Hawk built by Z-Hat. It`s on a Ruger 77 action and shoot great. I have not hunted with and it`s really to large for anything I hunt. Loading ammo for it is alittle tricker than most round as the case is straight walled for all practical perpousious and you don`t daire bump the shoulder, which is abt. .009, as it will mess-up your head space. There is just not enough shoulder to make it easy to load. I think the .375 would be a better choice, but I got this gun at a real good price.

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Re: 400 Whelen
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2006, 02:01:47 AM »

I went a slightly different route.  I built a .44 Whelen, the .429 express.  It is a .30-06 blown out straight to .429 caliber, and headspaces on the mouth.  It works flawlessly in my mauser.  It will push a 300 grain bullet to 2400 fps, with Powley computer estimating 55,000 psi, similar to the .270.

dave

Dave!,
I've been thinking of doing something similiar on an ex-mil M98. Any chance of some further details and some pictures perhaps???
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