Katrina showed why your shtf rifle should be concealable

[slink]

(when disassembled, at least). Being seen carrying arms, in some situations, can be more trouble than having the guns is preventing. You can always carry a concealble gun where it can be seen, if you want or need to.  However, something like an M1A is not concealable, even if you do disassemble it.  It's better to have all the options you can.  Since you can't possibly foresee what the crisis will be like, you also can't determine what attributes of your guns (and gear) will be most important.

[myronman3]

something to consider for sure.  but, what about a m1a socom?  

the fact is that some situations certain weapons will have the advantage over another.   i love my ar,  but there is no argueing that a m1a's firepower gives it one giant advantage.

[Almtnman]

(when disassembled, at least). Being seen carrying arms, in some situations, can be more trouble than having the guns is preventing. You can always carry a concealble gun where it can be seen, if you want or need to.  However, something like an M1A is not concealable, even if you do disassemble it.  It's better to have all the options you can.  Since you can't possibly foresee what the crisis will be like, you also can't determine what attributes of your guns (and gear) will be most important.

The trick to concealing something like the M1A is to place it in a container or object that doesn't bring attention to it. A good section of large PVC pipe with padding inside would make it look like a construction item. A musical instrument case would also suffice. How many people would notice a guitar case with a took down M1A stored inside?

[countryroads]

what in the world is SHTF?

[azshooter]

Even more importantly it showed why you should never vote for a Democrat.

[ShadowMover]

SHTF is when things go really wrong, as in Stuff Hits The Fan. A bad situation that effects everyone in a negative way, such as an earthquake, hurricane, riot, or some other disruptive event. Another related phrase would be TEOTWAWKI, representing a major change, The End Of The World As We Know It. An example would be a smallpox release, an atomic attack, or Yellowstone erupting.

[Almtnman]

SHTF is when things go really wrong, as in Stuff Hits The Fan.

So I would guess that if a bunch of Dims get in control in the next election, we would be in a phase of SHTF! 

[JeffG]

My AR15 fits into a soft side guitar case that has backpack straps on it.  I can walk down to Main St., and get on the bus if I want...

[carbineman]

The Kel-Tec SU 16 folds in half uses USGI 30 round magazines has room for storage in the stock for one 30 round magazine and weighs around 4 lbs. It will fit in a backpack as well. The big thing is if you are out and about you want to appear to be a "civilian" not dressed in BDU's with a rifle slung over your shoulder as you will then be a target. You would want to appear "normal" or a gray man dressed in your blue or gray work pants and shirt. Going around looking like a soldier will get you treated like a soldier from those wishing to make trouble and those that are soldiers. You would only want a confrontation if you absolutely would have to. You might be better off with just a s/a pistol. That's the view from here.

[Badge54]

I have used the bag that sporting/ folding chairs come in, and carried a cooler with the rest of the items I needed, for a training event in the city.

Call it Cityflage.

Badge54

[Dances with Geoducks]

The people have learned that the government will steal your protection during a disaster.

Im darn sure next time, there will be gun fire.

As long as your firearm is out in the open, the law is on your side.

You just have to be ready to use it

[bilmac]

Yes I wonder if overtly concealing it like putting it in a guitar case would buy you trouble if discovered. I would be more in favor of putting it in something like a large duffel with other stuff. A guitar case with a rifle in it kind of brings up images of gangsters with their violin cases. If it's just in your bags, well you had to put it somewhere. Cops will be stressed out and scared too. A lot will depend on their own personal discretion. Best to try to do everything possible to get along.

 

[Hooker]

Katrina showed me that our government can no longer be trusted and those in power should be removed.
We should not have to hide our weapons from those who took an oath to uphold the Constitution.
What we have is a servant that has lost it fear of the ones it serves. I had a dog got like that once.

Pat   

[Dee]

Katrina showed why you shtf rifle should be concealable.

NO IT SHOWED THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO QUIT VOTIN ALONG "ANY" PARTY LINE, AND FOR THE  LESSOR OF TWO EVILS. IT SHOWED THAT NEITHER THE DEMOCRATS OR THE REPUBLICANS GIVE A DAMN ABOUT YOU 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS.
YOU ELECT THE JOHN MCCAINS OF THIS COUNTRY TO STEAL YOUR GUN RIGHTS AWAY FROM YOU, AND THEN YOU PAY THE NRA TO KEEP THE MCCAINS FROM DOING WHAT YOU ELECTED THEM TO DO. THEY ALL THREE, HAVE JOB SECURTIY AND IT'S YOUR FREEDOMS AND YOUR DIME THEIR GETTIN IT FROM.

BEN FRANKLIN WAS RIGHT!

[Swampman]

Not a thing wrong with the Republicans.  They are the only reason we still have guns.

[myronman3]

yup,the republicants and the good ol' nra have saved the day for us gun owners, havent they???

[45-70.gov]

The people have learned that the government will steal your protection during a disaster.

Im darn sure next time, there will be gun fire.

As long as your firearm is out in the open, the law is on your side.

You just have to be ready to use it

yea  right......where  are you from??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

at  what  point  do  we  shoot back???

more
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMOKh0HUClA

i  can't believe  this  one
watch it  a few times
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sm5PC7z79-8

looks  like a blood bath is brewing

[Badge54]

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

[45-70.gov]

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

I  HOPE THIS MOVEMENT GROWS

[rio grande]

I like take-down guns...only bad thing is, they are of NO USE when taken down and in your gear.
I mean, it IS an additional option, but....

[Swampman]

yup,the republicants and the good ol' nra have saved the day for us gun owners, havent they???

They are the only reason you are still a gun owner.

[myronman3]

in your mind only. 

[Dances with Geoducks]

1)yea  right......where  are you from??

2)at  what  point  do  we  shoot back???

3)looks  like a blood bath is brewing

1) Pacific Northwest, rural countryside

2) (a) When the government gets to big, or to corrupt, according to the fore fathers
    (b)  In defense of ones home and harth. Which according to the constitution, is our God given right.
          Tho the federal government may think they are gods, they are not.
3) Yup, Its an easy choice really.   Submit, be taken to the camps, Live free or Die

In response to your videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKFKGrmsBDk

This jewel is a radical rap, with bad words in it, but you  get the point.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofotzbP3jJM

[45-70.gov]

2  good  videos  dancer...thanks
you  said
''As long as your firearm is out in the open, the law is on your side.''
i  know  most of them are on my side
and if they are on  my side...they  won't care  i am  armed  concealed or  not
NO NEED FOR THEM TO KNOW
what  is  their  ''probable cause''  if  they don't see a gun?

so  you  going  to  carry  in the  open  still??


looks like have  some  weapons  buried might be a good idea
to  replace  them  as they are taken
preferably  a good scoped rifle
so  your  confiscated guns can be retrieved 

[Dances with Geoducks]

so  you  going  to  carry  in the  open  still??

Yup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4s0nzsU1Wg&feature=related

I live on the edge of a national forest.

[45-70.gov]

so  you  going  to  carry  in the  open  still??

Yup

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4s0nzsU1Wg&feature=related

I live on the edge of a national forest.

excellent video

i  hope you don't carry them  ALL  out in the open

you  seem  to  be  TOOOOO  trusting
tho  that  is  a good  indication  you are an honest man 
and expect  others to be  like  your

most  are..........but a little  paranoia   is a good thing

i  have  known quite a few  crooked  cops  in my live...personally
history  will repeat  itself

one  good thing  about open  carry
makes  folks  get used to the  idea  of..................people  need to be armed

[Dances with Geoducks]

What you may not understand is, when the time comes, I wont be out in the open.
Nor my people, nor my shelter, nor my garden, etc.

You can not steal from someone you cant not see or find

What I didnt learn from Uncle Sam, Victor Charlie did

It all the rest of you living in urban and suburban are the patriots I worry about

[Badge54]

Wonder what would have happened in the Katrina video's if when the police asked for any weapons in the car you just said "no. I'm trying to get my family out of town. thank you, we will pray for your safety."

I'm truly dissapointed in the way things were done there.

Badge54

[45-70.gov]

What you may not understand is, when the time comes, I wont be out in the open.
Nor my people, nor my shelter, nor my garden, etc.

You can not steal from someone you cant not see or find

What I didnt learn from Uncle Sam, Victor Charlie did

It all the rest of you living in urban and suburban are the patriots I worry about

so  you and your  guns  are  concealed
i  like you better  now

i am on an  island  and own a whole city block
i am surrounded  by  fish and small game
only 2 acres  and  i know it well
i am  holding  still.....except  maybe a hurricane

[Dances with Geoducks]

Unless you have two years of food and supplies, you will have to move about some time.

Dont forget space blankets, they scatter infrared signatures real good.

These bums should cut me in for all the business I send them.

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