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« on: March 27, 2003, 06:38:27 PM »
Lets say a person put together a new combination of old faithful bass killers that not only is deadly on bass, but every other fish it has been tried on, who knows anything about getting lures to market.  every one of you have tackleboxes full of them, I doubt there is any way it could be patented.

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What kind of lure are your proposing
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2003, 01:26:15 AM »
Is it a spinnerbait, soft plastic, crank bait, what?  Makes a big difference in how you market it.

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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2003, 05:04:23 AM »
soft plastic

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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2003, 10:31:16 AM »
shb,

Yeah, you can patent them but be prepared to spend a lot of time and some money doing so.  Doing a patent search takes time or you have to pay someone to do it for you and these people charge dearly.  It is a good idea you have though.  Lawdog
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2003, 02:17:01 PM »
Soft plastic is "Generally" not a localized market thing, at least it can't afford to be for long.  There are people who put together localized spinnerbaits and jigs, even some crank baits, but these are baits you can charge dearly for.  You can't with soft plastic, at least I don't know anyone willing to give 20 bucks for a bag of 10 worms.  Additionally, the manufacturing process is best done on contract.  You find a pour factory somewhere, send the the mold and order half a zillion baits in each of a few colors.  Most of them start out selling regionally but quickly for practical reasons have to go national.  That's where you have to get a marketer for your bait.  He's the guy that is a professional at presenting the bait to Bass Pro and Cabellas and convincing them to put the bait in their catalog (Which you pay for btw.)  That is a tall prospect in the soft plastic market.  You will also need to get to the major distributors like SOS and Henry's.  Your marketer's the guy who does that.  I happen to know one if you are serious.  

The main thing you or any other national bait company has to do is compete for shelf space.  Stores like Wal Mart do not buy your product and sell it.  You own it, you pay them rent on the shelf its haning on, and pay them a percentage to sell it.  If they shop lift it, its yours, if the store burns to the ground, its yours, you get the idea.  When you are at that point, obviously, there are a limited number of shelves, guess what happens, they are bid on.  Zoom and some of the other bigger companies are a little ruthless in that area.  Other words, if it cost them an extra 10 G to keep you off the shelf, they will pay it.  

The smaller stores, you can choose the Distributor method like Henrys or SOS or you can have independent salesmen working for you.  Either way, its still tough to break in the market.  All stores have limited space.  Getting them to buy your unproven product and take up space and inventory dollars at the expense of displaying other versions of products proven to sell is tough.  Demand pull is the best medicine.  If you can get a half a dozen fishermen interested in using your product in an area, you can bet, some store is going to be requesting it.  Demand pull doesn't mean diddly to Wal Mart, but the full service tackle shops, it is their calling card.

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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2003, 02:46:57 PM »
Well that is some darn solid Information, thank you. Im not too serious right now because I dont really believe there is any way to protect the Idea once it starts to be noticed. It is basically the same as taking a jigging spoon and attaching an in line spinner to the front of it.  But it is a "go to" lure.  Several years ago I saw where some boys in BASS Master magazine were getting close, and I said to myself " well you can't keep something as simple and effective as that to yourself forever" .  

What if a couple of pros won some tournaments with it, could you trust them to keep their mouths shut until it could be marketed.

I'm back in school right now "angling" for a marketing/business degree so I might be a good project when I get past the general ed classes.

Thank you for the good info, I appreciate it.

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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2003, 01:53:59 AM »
Let me tell you something about tournament fishermen.  If the bait works, and you don't want it mentioned, you very well can bet they will keep their mouth shut.  Baits have a cycle.  They work till bass get tired of seeing them and drop off.  Pro's keep secrets on what they are catching fish on pretty religiously if they can.

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