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Offline 5.56er

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« on: April 09, 2006, 01:15:49 PM »
It changes the point of impact each time I shoot I have about inch groups each time i shoot but it won't hold the same point of impact and this is a dependable scope, what do you folks think it is, could be shells I have checked the stock and rings and bases. help appreciated
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« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2006, 01:48:19 AM »
Honestly, I don't have a definitive solution and thought someone else more knowledgable would submit.  40 folks have read your post and no one has replied, so I figure I would throw out a suggestion or two.

How is your rest?  Any chance it moves, even slightly, with the recoil?

I would suggest to check your bases (did you use blue loctite to mount them with?), but you said you've checked them.

If it wasn't for the fact that it is grouping, another suggestion would be your reaction to the sound of the shot.  Some folks react to the sound of the gun going off, just like a recoil flinch.  Are you using good hearing protection?  Perhaps use plugs and muffs.

Finger placement on the trigger.  I have always been taught not to place the trigger in the first crease of your index finger.  This can cause you to "curl" your finger around the trigger which when you pull the trigger can cause the gun to pull left or right , depending on which hand you shoot with.  Place the index finger on the trigger so that rests on the "pad" between the tip and first crease of the finger.  When you squeeze the trigger, pull straight back with continuous pressure.  

Control you breathing.  Take a few good deep breaths prior to shooting.  The more oxygen you can breath in, the more relaxed you will be.  Let out a little breath then hold it for your shot.  

Are you relaxed when you shoot?  I've seen folks walk down range to change or do something with the target, then come back and sit down to shoot.  Give yourself time to calm down.

Don't "choke" the rifle when shooting it.  Line the gun up on target with a light hold, get into position, then grip it like you normally would and check to see it the gun moves off your aim point.  You need to hold it firmly, but not with a death grip.  

If anything, maybe some of these suggestions will stir some thoughts and with a little brain-storming we can work it out.

Good Luck!

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« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2006, 05:58:38 AM »
Can you be a little more specific as to what you did when you checked the stock and rings/bases? Some things I would look at if you haven't already
1) Is the action mounted securely to the bedding block?
2) Run a dollar bill down the barrel to make sure it is free floated along the entire length
3) Double check the scope. I had a scope that held POI rock solid until I pulled it from the gun and tried to put it back on and adjust it when I discovered it was in need of repair.
4) Double check the rings and bases and confirm they are the correct ones for the rifle.
5) Try a different brand of ammo.
Evoc makes some good points to consider as well. You may even want to have a good knowledgeable smith look at your rifle (sometimes the forest can get in the way of trees or vice-versa and an objective outsider can catch things an owner would overlook).

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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2006, 06:25:15 AM »
i am shooting off of a bipod which the plastic stock flexes I am going to try it off sandbags It groups but changes point of impact I am going to get a laminated stock from boyds
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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2006, 08:14:08 AM »
Bed the rifle..........regardless of which stock you end up with. Provides an exact place for it to fit each time you remove and reinstall.

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« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2006, 02:50:55 AM »
the most fun u can have is getting them to shoot.Especially one that shows promise,....it sounds like a great challenge because it will shoot a good group then shifts the point of impact..?? If u could show some pics of say a series of 3 five shot groups ..that could be helpful...Years ago I had a Ruger M77 257 roberts..nice little gun but it was tricky to load for...Keep at it...Do the bedding first before u buy another stock..I have a savage plastic sporter stock & a stevens if u mess up just PM me & I'll send u one for just the cost of shipping it...I've been using J B weld to bed barrels & actions the putty consistancy makes placement very easy..If u need u can lay Saran Wrap over the goop [wax the metal parts too,just in case]...Not hard to stiffen one of those plastic stocks up ...That should help..Check the recoil lug itself make sure it is narrow enough on the bottom & not bottoming out on the stock recess...both before & after bedding it...don't be afraid to do some filing on that stamped metal part to get it squared up in there..When I replace a barrel I sometimes buy a new better Quality recoil lug...Little things like that are easy to miss & they cause shifts of impact if the gun twists in the stock under recoil...The recess up front can be stiffened with steel or the right diameter of plastic pipe & epoxy....U can weight it too but that defeats the lite weight feature of a sporter...try it stiff first, then try free floating the barrel.u can put a pressure point back in there real easy... mike in ct