Author Topic: electric rifle? (Read 763 times)

countryrebel8174 · « **on:** April 06, 2006, 01:04:55 AM »

my dad was saying that there is an electric rifle? is this true? can anyone tell me more on this, like how it works, who makes it and if its worth having?

country rebel

old06 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 06, 2006, 01:27:58 AM »

The model 700 Remington Etronx the lock time was like .0000027 of a second while the firing pin is still falling in your standard 700 the bullet is out of the barrel. The idea was a flop on the marketing end you can find the gun now for about 550 to 600 half of what they were when they hit the shelves. Loaded ammo is 25 to 30 a box and about 100 bucks for 1000 primers it takes special primers do a serch on any of the gun auctions.

Coyote Hunter · « **Reply #2 on:** April 06, 2006, 03:47:12 AM »

Can you say "Murphy" or "Battery failure"?

When I first learned about the Etronix system my first thoughts were that the system would never be accepted by hunters. There are enough things that can go wrong with a rifle without complicating them further.

If you invite Murphy into your life, he will come.

old06 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 06, 2006, 01:27:39 PM »

Electronics a few drops of water and what you have you have is a boat paddle.

countryrebel8174 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 07, 2006, 04:15:25 AM »

yea i had a feeling the sales wouldnt be to good for em. that just seems wierd to me an electric rifle....wierd.

country rebel

Mike in Ct · « **Reply #5 on:** April 07, 2006, 03:33:04 PM »

put the cost & possible problems aside...Very fast lock time & no bounce from the firing pin vibrations..trouble is the gun was not accurate enough to show the value of the ignigtion system..The ammo was factory loaded U had to use what they made u shoot...small wonder nobody took the idea & ran with it..If good old american tinkering is not possible the great improvements in our rifles would not have come about...Reloaders & benchrest shooters set the bar pretty high on accuracy standards..Any developments will come from shooter inovations & then the factory jobs catching up...not the other way around..just my opinion...mike in ct

old06 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 07, 2006, 05:01:23 PM »

Mike in Ct they did sell the primers and still do like I said early 100 bucks will bring home 1000 primers I feel there is still to little gain for the price it wasn't a hunter but a target rifle only

Zachary · « **Reply #7 on:** April 08, 2006, 04:02:58 PM »

Quote from: old06

you can find the gun now for about 550 to 600 half of what they were when they hit the shelves.quote]

I'm surprised that they still cost that much. lol

Zachary

UtahMike · « **Reply #8 on:** April 08, 2006, 05:01:59 PM »

The Etronx didn't make it in the market place, it does have some problems, however if you make sure the firing pin stays clean there aren't any other problems I've run across. The electronics are sealed in the butt of the rifle in solid resin. I think I could set it in water and still not have any problems with it.

I bought 1 of them for about $500, just for fun. Where else can you get a VSSF NIB for that kind of money? I had it rechambered to 22-250AI and use it for a varmint rifle. I put a 5-15x50 Bushnell 3200 on it along with a Farrel base and rings.

The rifle regularly shoots in the .2's with my handloads, I've got about 750-800 rnds thru it. I don't know how long it will be before the barrel starts to show some loss of accuracy, no big deal. Even with the priners costing a dime a piece, finished ammo is still less than any box of off the shelf ammo.....

Did I really get screwed? I think not. The trigger will change out with any aftermarket trigger..... I can purchase an after market bolt for a few bucks. and replace the stock if I desire, hence no more electronics, but for now, I'm having fun with it.....

Mike in Ct · « **Reply #9 on:** April 09, 2006, 03:56:59 AM »

utah mike is hell on P dogs.... .2 at 100 with 22-250AI ..that is a hot little gun bud...good going...mike in ct...how is the trigger pull

if it shoots that well it cant be bad ??

UtahMike · « **Reply #10 on:** April 09, 2006, 04:35:54 AM »

Mike in Ct

The trigger takes a while to get use to! It's a micro-switch, it's got adjustment like a regular trigger for pull weight and if I remember right it's set about 1 1/2#'s. It's been a while since I put a gauge on it. There is no sear, just an inaudible click when the trigger is pulled, you can't really tell when it's going to (break). Just a smooth, short, steady, pull. Very strange at first. It will kind of catch you by surprise, but that's a good thing I think. It's taught me patience, even with the rest of my triggers. It'r really just an adjustable micro-switch, I think that might of been part of it's down fall, a little hard to get use to. Not only that, but you must get use to using a key, that's right, a key to turn the weapon on. Good if your worried about safety, bad if you turn it off and need to make a quick shot. The good news is that a battery lasts a very long time. There is an LED (red) just about the 12 o'clock postion behind the rear of the bolt, that blinks a simple code to tell you if everything is OK with the electronics and that it's loaded, safety on or off. It takes a 9v that's behind the recoil pad, it will last several thousand hours.

While using it on PD's and coyotes from a table is great, it's not a carry weapon, I think it's about 10# with the scope, more with the Harris Bi-Pod. By the way, the 2's I shoot are from a Lead Sled, I don't use it when hunting, but when I''m developing a load for the gun. I shoots both the little V-Max 40's and A-Max 52's very nice. Reloading is straight foreward, just using the electric primer in place of a regular primer. I've never had any ignition problems at all. I talked to Remington and asked them, that if I re-barreled the gun to, say a 308win., would the primer be strong enough to ignite the larger charge and they said absoluely no problem. I use Varget almost exculively..... By the way If I push it, I can't get 4400fps on the little 40's, not bad, groups open up a bit though.....

(note) I was wrong about the Farrel base on this gun, that's on my Savage 12FLV. the Remington has Leupold rings and base.

Good hunting.... and have fun.....

corbanzo · « **Reply #11 on:** April 09, 2006, 06:52:47 PM »

The military was doing research into electronic ignition caseless cartridges to see if they could get increases firing rate out of fully automatic weapons. With no cartridge ejection, etc, because the propellent burns totally up, and that and the bullet are all that is loaded into the chamber. I was reading up on it, and they said the cartridges were safe as anything, and only the high volt current would set it off, and that it could be manufactured for about the same price as a regular cased cartridge. Pretty neat stuff.