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Offline ronbow

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« on: April 05, 2006, 05:06:00 AM »
After owning 3 Cold Steel knives (2 voyagers and a pro-lite) I am giving up on them as they don't hold an edge. I can get them shaving sharp but it won't last. All three are the 440 series steel. Switched to spyderco in VG-10 steel and am satisifed.

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« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2006, 02:41:38 PM »
I'm suprised. My Master Hunter goes through several deer each season without a touch-up.  I like Spyderco too, though, so to each his own.

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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2006, 04:02:54 AM »
Have had good luck with Voyagers. My son and I both carry them and they hold an edge and are well built . We have skinned and cleaned fish with them and they have done well .Cut twine off bales of hay and many other chores in the Rockies.

  Never owned a Spyderco, probably a good knife too.

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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2006, 12:01:49 PM »
I have about 40 CS knives and I love every one of them. :grin:
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2006, 09:59:54 AM »
My third Cold Steel knife should arrive any minute now from UPS. It's a Voyager.
 I like my two cold steel knives very much and I'm hoping this new one will be as good.

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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2006, 02:53:35 PM »
puma and boker is also still making great knives
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2006, 08:49:31 AM »
Cold Steel Started outsourcing a few years back to Taiwan
and the quailty dropped drastically. I bought 2 Twistmasters
right when the company started making them and one has literally never had to be sharpened! It has held an edge that well using it on game.
The other was used as more of a utility knife so it didn't fare quite so well.
It is still in great shape though. I have ordered several more from them
as well as a couple of spears, but when I started seeing the made in Taiwan on the blade and noticed the resultant drop in quality My purchases
ceased. Same with Gerber.. They are crap now too and they also say Made in Taiwan. For the most part, I now make my own knives.
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2006, 07:19:02 PM »
I have no knowledge of Cold Steel's stainless steel blades. Their Carbon V aka 50100-B at Rc 58-59 holds an edge well. And it is surprisingly corrosion resistant.

Flat grind Master Hunter blades are well shaped to use for dressing/butchering game and domestic animals. The grip is very comfortable and slip resistant.

Once you get away from this -- and the superb TwistMasters -- you begin to buy hyperbole rather than functionality. Stuff such as SRK and Recon Bowie are nearly useless as received for cutting anything. They may be swell for hacking, but, gee, so are axes and machetes. Cutting tomatoes?? Forget it.
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S. Sumner and I seem to be alone in the universe. Cold Steel TwistMaster Carbon V knives with a modified 3.5-inch Nessmuck clip point is among the best conceived folding knives I've owned. Until I got the bug for Cowry X Damascus blades, this was my primary knife. Sturdy, easy to use, easy to maintain, very light. I still have my TwistMaster in storage, but I replaced it with Russell's K87CW folding knife. Not nearly as good a blade shape, but Cowry X.

I just got two Hattori-Seki Cowry X Damascus hunting knives based on my TwistMaster blade shape. The Hattori KD30-2A Randall Model 5 look alike Cowry X Damascus knife I bought until my custom knives were completed is now on the market, still unused. I bought it to use this elk season. Now I don't need it.
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Re: Cold Steel
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2006, 11:30:51 AM »
Sumner and I seem to be alone in the universe. Cold Steel TwistMaster Carbon V knives with a modified 3.5-inch Nessmuck clip point is among the best conceived folding knives I've owned. Until I got the bug for Cowry X Damascus blades, this was my primary knife. Sturdy, easy to use, easy to maintain, very light. I still have my TwistMaster in storage, but I replaced it with Russell's K87CW folding knife. Not nearly as good a blade shape, but Cowry X.


You are not alone.The CS Twismasters are great knives and are under-appreciated by todays consumer.Im glad I bought a bunch of them years back when CS closed them out(cheap) through their Special Products moniker.The TM is a modernized French Opinel and its a great untility knife design.

Yes,CS has cheapened alot of their product line.They still make some nice blades,but alot of this new 420 sub-zero china crap is crap.440 series stainless in my experience will not hold an edge long and cannot compare to a good carbon steel blade.440 is cheap and I dont like it.

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Re: Cold Steel
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2006, 11:38:40 AM »
I own 6 Cold Steel knives and I've never had a problem with any of them, they all hold their edges longer than I ever expect them to.
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Re: Cold Steel
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2006, 12:21:23 PM »
Yesterday I recieved a CS Master Hunter from Freedom Arms, it was a promotional item for buying a gun.  I don't really know what expect from it but the price was right. BTW, it was made in Japan.
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Re: Cold Steel
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2006, 12:00:52 PM »
And today I let the blade touch my finger and then move laterly, and it drew blood as quick as I could say, "OUCH"!! :o  I'm hoping the negative reports I've been reading about CS don't hold up in this case but if they do, hey, it was free!!
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Re: Cold Steel
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2006, 10:50:13 AM »
Take a good edge, just don't keep it very long.
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Re: Cold Steel
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2007, 10:13:54 AM »
The big question for me these days is Carbon V vs. SK-5;  do I spend the extra money for the increasingly more elusive U.S.A. made knives.  Or do I sell out and get the better value from China at half the price.  This issue, for myself, only applies to the carbon steel blades because IMHO nothing slices or holds an edge like it.  If your afraid of a little rust simply make a regimine of maintenance with your knife the same as so many of us did with our service rifles.  I hated the constant drilling of cleaning when it was already clean simply because we had nothing else to do between those hurry up and wait periods.  But in time I realized that things like that saved lives and least of all they will keep your strongest sharpest knife clean.        I own two Laredo bowies from Cold Steel; one is U.S. Carbon-V and the other is Chinese SK-5. They do not sit in a collectors safe being of no use to anyone. I have purposely torture tested them side by side and have seen little difference in peformance.  The U.S.  version holds a slight,  edge in balance and symmetry, but very slight.  I can say the same about my epoxy coated Trailmasters and Recon Scouts. The only model that had any obvious difference in craftsmanship was the Ghurka Kukri where the U.S. version was totaly symetrical, thicker, sharper and better finished. But there was still no diference in torture test performance IMHO.     The Chinese versions are half the price and readily available where the no longer produced Carbon-V's are expensive at best to outragous in price.  I know it sounds unpatriotic but American industry is getting its tail kicked in many different directions as far as competitiveness and value. No doubt we have produced superior products in the past but what good are they to the American market if no one can afford to buy them.    I truely appreciate a quality made American product but I think that most peoples wallets appreciate a balance of quality and value even more.   If money is not an issue and you simply must have the esteem that goes with owning a "Made In The U.S.A." product for collecting and resale then knock yourself  and your wallet out.   If you are like me and feel that unless an object is antique, heirloom,or artifact of some historical value or significance,  it should not sit in a safe where it is of no use to any one, it should be used and used well.  This goes not just for out of production Cold Steel products but for all outrageously priced American products whether they're hand cafted or whose @!*@^!!ing  name is on them.  What are we!? Snooty Europeans?, Status hungry asians. Forgive me but I live in the communist city of Los Angeles and I see it all first hand. The American people got to where they are today by being practical and hardnosed and not by shopping for prestige.  Cold Steel became what it is today by offering a superior product at a reasonable price (for those who remember back to the 80s). It is unfortunate that they can no longer do that (for whatever economical reason) with American labor.  But they still put out a good product for the price; Chinese or not.   As for whose is responsible for this TARFU situation... the Gov't?, Big business?, or our own spoiled,lazy,unionized American tails... all of the above?  I don't know. Please forgive my going off on a tangent... again.   I'm pretty new to GB and I Think this a great site. The opinions I've expressed probably belong in another forum area of this site. I do apologize

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Re: Cold Steel
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2007, 05:45:09 PM »
Knives are tools and no "one" knife can do it all.  During my time in the military my unit was always in search of the perfect knife.  End result?  I retired with a bunch of knives that my kids will eventually get.  I have a couple favaorites  as does everyone;  my most used knife is my swiss army knife it goes everywhere with me and I have done some really cool stuff with it.  I have a CS  SRK that I have had for.... at least ten years. Great knife- simple and aside from the original sheath have no reason to dislike it. The other mid- sized knife that I really enjoy is a SOG (seal pup) i think?  I attached it my ATV and that stays at hunt camp.  My favorite large knife is made by a company called MADDOG I'm not even sure if they are still in buisness.  The blade is about six inches long and almost a quarter of an inch thick at the spine.  I have chopped, dug, chisled, etc. and it still holds an excellent edge.  The sheath is Kydex so I don't ever have to worry about that.  Lastly my cold steel "ghurka" style machete is #1 for chopping just about anything I need it to.  To quarter a deer I this and a small skinning knife.  Knives are a very personal thing (in my opinion) and only the user can make the final decision on whether it suits them or not.  I suspect most of us will always keep our eyes open for the next "best" knife but, we will always have our old favorites.

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Re: Cold Steel
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2007, 05:54:49 PM »
Knives are a very personal thing (in my opinion) and only the user can make the final decision on whether it suits them or not.

I totally agree with this opinion.  I personally use a knife for the task at hand.  I use either a Randall, Puma, or Shrade (old style) for hunting.  I use a Swiss army or Leatherman for daily use.  Both are fine for normal daily use.  I have other knives that I carry on occasion but generally go back to my old standbys for hunting.
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Re: Cold Steel
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2008, 07:13:50 AM »
I own 17 different CS knives, three tomahawks, 4 spears, and three swords.   Every one has had flawless performance with the exception of my last purchase,  the MoroBarong sword.    It is made out of the same steel as my other two swords, but failed miserably when trying to quarter a 70 lb hog last month.   the edge, while very sharp,  would either bend or chip with every swing I took.   I hit the hog exactly five times.   The heavy blade went through the pelvis and all four limbs without a hitch but the blade was left with three chips (up to 1/4") and a fold on the edge.   I am returning this one for replacement as its performance is clearly lacking. 

Am I disappointed -Yes.   Will I buy more CS?  Yes - they have excellent customer service and a great value for the product. 
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Re: Cold Steel
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2008, 12:05:08 PM »
I have the Twistmaster and several other CS and I like them a lot. I started to carry a Trail Guide with Carbon V steel made in USA. It's sharp as a razor riight out of the box. The other CS knives I have are razor sharp too.