The Louisiana “Hunt” (01/2002) by Telahnay's g'son

[Graybeard]

I removed the e-mail addresses as soon as I saw it. I see no reason why the message should be removed unless the person who wrote it requests I remove it.

[Telahnay's g'son]

Graybeard,
The above e-mail that Talahnay has posted should be removed.  He had no right to post it, as it was nothing that concerned him.  It was done just to add insult to the MABRC from his so-called friend.  He was not even included on the mailing list.  I ask it be removed as one of the individuals who is listed in the e-mail addresses.

Thank you.

Could it be that you are just a tad embarrassed at being called out for what you've apparently been all along?


To wit:

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darkwinglh Need some help with info, Mar 3 2007, 09:32 PM     

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 I know a lot about you and Bulletmaker having a falling out, but my group has been approached to do research at his property. What I need to know is the story straight from you before I get drawn into anything with him.

I would appreciate any info you could give me, I done made two trips to his house and the hidden bean field, and he is already twisting things around.

Thanks in advance
D. W. Lee
Green Country Bigfoot Research Center

 
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darkwinglh Re:Need some help with info, Mar 4 2007, 10:18 AM     

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 Thanks T,
I appreciate the offer, would like to come up some time and see what you have going on there, as we got some video of our camera being picked up by something in the HBF for over 45 seconds, although it never turned it towards it's face for the money shot.

I agree the activity has moved to the west.

Thanks
D.W. Lee
918-696-XXXX

 
You are a player sir and a cheap one at that.  I trust you know what the Cherokee word "oshtenequah" (sp) stands for?

 

[darkwinglh]

You're being played by Ole Bub, and when you finally realize it, you will find yourself being harassed like I am right now.

And you can say all you want about the Louisiana Hunt being a monkey you shot, fact remains, you shot at something that you fully believed was a bigfoot.  No matter what you say, you're intent was to kill a bigfoot.  You need to stop sugar-coating that for Ole Bub.

[Telahnay's g'son]

You're being played by Ole Bub, and when you finally realize it, you will find yourself being harassed like I am right now.

And you can say all you want about the Louisiana Hunt being a monkey you shot, fact remains, you shot at something that you fully believed was a bigfoot.  No matter what you say, you're intent was to kill a bigfoot.  You need to stop sugar-coating that for Ole Bub.

Harrington told me (via PM) that he was actively working the area Dave had initiated research in (after he'd gotten the original intel from Dave) and he (Harrington) was intent upon bringing in a carcass.  I'm under the impression you're hip-deep in on that deal as well.

BTW, a friend of mine has family in the area where you live and did some asking around after you intially contacted me last year.  The feedback received did not bode well for your reputation.

Of course since you were nowhere near Louisiana that particular evening the comments made above smell just as bad as my opinion of you as a person.  The fact remains that my account (taken immediately after the "shot") was the animal/critter had a black roundish head with small ears and my intent (that evening) was to kill a wounded animal.  Have never said anything otherwise to that effect.  I seriously doubt you'd recognize the truth even if it were to bite you on the hiney because you're way too busy working the forked tongue.

[NONYA]

POPCORN! Get your popcorn right here!

[Graybeard]

As I replied to you in your PM to me on the subject; you have no standing to ask me to remove it. ONLY the person who WROTE it has that standing and should THEY contact me and request it be removed it will be. Just because you got a copy doesn't give you standing to request it be removed. I did take IMMEDIATE action to remove all the e-mail addresses from it as soon as I saw it and long before you wrote to me as that wasn't proper to include them.

Clearly if John had it to post he either got it from the author or someone on the TO: list and they must not have objected to him sharing it or he'd not have gotten it to share.

I do agree it's a shame the Bigfoot Research field is such a cut throat affair and it's why folks who don't really believe in the big boy feel all reports are a sham. It's really hard for me to not feel that way but I do try to listen with an open ear and mind. Still all the dirty pool played by the follks involved makes it hard for anyone other than a devoted bigfoot chaser to take any of you seriously just as Nonya has said repeatedly.

The message stands on its own and true or not I have no clue but unless the author of it asks it be removed it stays.

[Ray Ford]

Well....

I finally read the post on the Louisiana hunt--if hunt is a correct designation.  I had not read it before for two reasons:  First, T's.g. had told me the story.  Second, since I had already heard his account, I just hadn't taken the time to plow through it.  Having now read the post, I really don't have too much to say about it--except that it confirms my opinion that organized hunts, one involving lots of dudes with beer and bullets who don't seem to know too much about hunting, are not likely to bag a Big Foot.  Most of the Big Feet that I know would not be caught dead anywhere near such an event.  And they certainly would not want to have their picture taken there.

Let's think about this:  If you owned a tract of land that you believed to be frequented by Big Feet, would you not discreetly, and with the involvement of as few people as possible, seek to photograph, or shoot if so inclined, one yourself?  I would be suspicious of both the motives and the methods of anyone who organizes the kind of disorganized circus that T's.g. described.

Let's think about this again:  Should you be hunting Big Feet if you are scared of them?  I know that a little fear ups the excitement of the hunt, but....  T's.g.'s account seems to indicate that several of the people involved had a little bit of apprehension about actually encountering a real Big Foot. 

I am aware that T's.g. has arrived at the possibility that the whole affair might have been a hoax with one or more known primates from one of the research facilities in the area--I have no personal knowledge of the area, the facilities, or the hunt!--involved.  That seems plausible to me.

Now then, if we could talk Graybeard, or the people who posted them, into deleting all of the above posts that are not directly related to the Louisiana circus....  I guess that I'm going to have to start looking at some other Big Feet sites--other than graybeardoutdoors.com.  I don't even know who Dave is.

[NONYA]

Its just a matter of time before someone gets shot on one of these "hunts"

[Ray Ford]

Nonya,

You went and done it again!  You posted something that you and T's.g., and me and D.G. and probably a lot of other people, agree on. 

Hey, Graybeard!  How come Nonya gets a gender symbol and I don't?   

[Graybeard]

Cuz you've not gone into your profile and selected the gender you feel most applies to you and he has. 

[NONYA]

ROFL!

[powderman]

NONYA. Are you getting as big a laugh out of this as I am??? POWDERMAN. 

[Telahnay's g'son]

NONYA. Are you getting as big a laugh out of this as I am??? POWDERMAN. 

At least it keeps you two off the streets and out of trouble! 

[powderman]

tg. reading your letters and others reminds me of romper room. WAAAAAAHHHHHH. POWDERMAN. 

[Telahnay's g'son]

tg. reading your letters and others reminds me of romper room. WAAAAAAHHHHHH. POWDERMAN. 

Uh-Oh...you're telling on your age now!    Ah thought you were a grumpy 'ol fart and now ah knows it! 

[Ray Ford]

ROFL!

Nonya,

Having lived, since I gave up working on police departments and newspapers, for many years the sheltered life of a minister/pastor in mostly small churches, and having came to the internet only recently, I'm not privy to the codes.  I take ROFL, regardless of what you meant it to indicate, to mean "Read on for laughs!"  And, all this time, I thought that this was a place for serious inquiry!

I don't mind a little humor.  When I spoke of Big Feet that "I knew" in the above post, I did it as what I thought was obvious and humorous fiction. 

I don't mind a little humor.  It sometimes turned up in my sermons--and at police departments and the newspapers on which I worked.  And I've had perfectly serious sermons laughed at--by some people who probably aren't laughing now.

I don't mind a little humor.  In fact, I like it better than animosity--which I sometimes spell "antimostiy" just for fun.  I've been thinking about things for which NONYA could be an acronym--funny things.  And POWDERMAN!  That's a challenge as an acronym.

[Telahnay's g'son]

tg. reading your letters and others reminds me of romper room. WAAAAAAHHHHHH. POWDERMAN. 

Powderman,

If you REALLY want to see some ROMPER ROOM material our "friend" is over on another site telling everyone how he's going to extricate a BF carcass (by himself) at 02:00HRS. 

I almost spit coffee all over the keyboard when I saw the post for everyone that knows him KNOWS he "ain't" gonna be anywhere other than in front of his TV at 02:00HRS much less out in the woods alone. 

PM me and I'll send you the addy's of a couple other BF websites where the same type of "keyboard commando" info is being postulated.

[Telahnay's g'son]

Well....

I finally read the post on the Louisiana hunt--if hunt is a correct designation.  I had not read it before for two reasons:  First, T's.g. had told me the story.  Second, since I had already heard his account, I just hadn't taken the time to plow through it.  Having now read the post, I really don't have too much to say about it--except that it confirms my opinion that organized hunts, one involving lots of dudes with beer and bullets who don't seem to know too much about hunting, are not likely to bag a Big Foot.  Most of the Big Feet that I know would not be caught dead anywhere near such an event.  And they certainly would not want to have their picture taken there.

Let's think about this:  If you owned a tract of land that you believed to be frequented by Big Feet, would you not discreetly, and with the involvement of as few people as possible, seek to photograph, or shoot if so inclined, one yourself?  I would be suspicious of both the motives and the methods of anyone who organizes the kind of disorganized circus that T's.g. described.

Let's think about this again:  Should you be hunting Big Feet if you are scared of them?  I know that a little fear ups the excitement of the hunt, but....  T's.g.'s account seems to indicate that several of the people involved had a little bit of apprehension about actually encountering a real Big Foot. 

I am aware that T's.g. has arrived at the possibility that the whole affair might have been a hoax with one or more known primates from one of the research facilities in the area--I have no personal knowledge of the area, the facilities, or the hunt!--involved.  That seems plausible to me.

Now then, if we could talk Graybeard, or the people who posted them, into deleting all of the above posts that are not directly related to the Louisiana circus....  I guess that I'm going to have to start looking at some other Big Feet sites--other than graybeardoutdoors.com.  I don't even know who Dave is.

RF,

The longer I delve into this "mystery" the more evidence that points to the plethora of charlatans and hustlers endemic within the "field" that continue to feed off the legions of true believers and assorted camp followers.

The aforementioned "hunt" may well have been no more than another event in the long line of such held at this location with the basic M.O. as nothing more than a publicity stunt designed to generate revenue for the hunt organizer and his "inner circle".  What buttresses this notion is the subsequent appearance of a "newsletter" subscription and "paid" hunts being offered thereafter.  Sounds an awful lot like "mining the miners" to me.   

Couple that with the total lack of logistics in place when the "shot" was fired and resulting pandemonium leaves me with the impression actually bagging a BF was NOT on the agenda. Way too much preponderance of the evidence to suggest (to most prudent people) otherwise.

Also, remember when we were having dinner with another BF "hunter" (also with his own website) in Talihina, Oklahoma at the town diner.  I'll never forget the looks and snickering focused at our guest by townspeople in the restaurant that evening.  Hmmmm.

IF you had a BF coming up on your front porch making (alleged) threatening gestures toward your teenage daughter...WHAT would you do?

Especially, if it WAS NOT the first time a BF had encroached upon your place?

Was it the opportunity of a lifetime to bag one of these critters?

Seems like a lot of wind blowing without many trees bending.

[NONYA]

Any credibility that this group was looking for has been completely destroyed by your own antics and childish bickering,do you really expect anyone to take any of you seriously?For a few minutes I thought some of this group were serious about the field,now its obvious your all out for your own personal gain and nothing more,if you were concerned with the mythical animal and proving its existence you would invest in some real surveillance equipment and try to capture it on a night vision equipped camera or some IR film.Instead you go out and blast away with shotguns at anything that might be a BF,your just looking for a paycheck and nothing more.

[Telahnay's g'son]

Any credibility that this group was looking for has been completely destroyed by your own antics and childish bickering,do you really expect anyone to take any of you seriously?For a few minutes I thought some of this group were serious about the field,now its obvious your all out for your own personal gain and nothing more,if you were concerned with the mythical animal and proving its existence you would invest in some real surveillance equipment and try to capture it on a night vision equipped camera or some IR film.Instead you go out and blast away with shotguns at anything that might be a BF,your just looking for a paycheck and nothing more.

Sorry old chap but I didn't think our obligation was to impress you with any degree of "seriousness" about what's being done (or not done) in this endeavour.  For starters, you have absolutely no idea of the equipment we are using (digital NV, Thermal Imager, Parabolic dish, etc.) yet have jumped to the conclusion we're running around in the woods armed like Federales with a wild-eyed glaze.  Well, that may be somewhat true as in the case of your protagonist (BM) who admittedly takes "sound shots" in the dark but that's likely more of a fear reaction than anything else.  Our group has NEVER torched off a round in the Spencer creek area (except when hunting deer) unlike your aforementioned pal who's having pilgrims out to his place and blasting the woods throughout the night with high-powered weaponry. 

NONYA, you're probably correct in the presumption someone is gonna get shot on one of those "hunts" but it won't be us as we're safely out of range instead playing off their "Keystone Cops" antics which tend to move the critters our way.

[NONYA]

every living creature within 10 miles has probably relocated.

[Telahnay's g'son]

Its just a matter of time before someone gets shot on one of these "hunts"

Another somewhat thinly veiled threat?



Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:50 am    Post subject:   

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I would like to bring up another reason why bigfoot maybe harder to find. That is due to all the trespassing from other hunters, if their bigfoot hunters, or poachers, dunno. but it does present a problem, when your trying to bigfoot hunt.
I would say that if these poachers, trespassers, whatever, whoever, continue, there maybe an accidental shooting. I`m not talking about my place, but all places in general.
Lets, assume you and your`s are alone int the woods, your main reason, is to get a picture, or maybe you are carrying a weapon, and you want to harvest a creature. Now lets, say that dogface, dogbreath, tresspasser, is in the neighbor hood, or anybody. Its dark, they are woodknocking as well, and they are near you. So you dont know if its, the real thing, or doggie breath wannabe, that`s ruining your hunt as well.
I think we need to explore this more, but you all can see what I`m getting at here. There seems to be alot of interest going out and seeing one of these creatures, especially with people that think they are experts, LOL.

bullet maker 



Problem is the victim(s) may well be one of the many coon hunters that frequently hunt the COE land adjacent to the area referenced.

IMHO, just another example of the irresponsible and malicious people that are allowed to carry weapons. 

[NONYA]

This from the guy who blasted away with a shotgun at some kind of humanoid creature that was never recovered in the pitch black?

[Ray Ford]

I'm going back to my "Hunting for Bigfeet" thread under "General Discussion" on www.gbofreeforums.info/Bigfootstudy.  Here, I feel like I'm duckin' bullets from all directions. 

[Telahnay's g'son]

This from the guy who blasted away with a shotgun at some kind of humanoid creature that was never recovered in the pitch black?

Do you write political ads?

First, how do you know it was a humanoid creature, whatever a "humanoid" is in the first place?

Or, are you just being a "hemorrhoid" ?

From the (simian) description I gave in the initial account?

It was after all a wounded animal or have you forgotten who recovered the blood & stomach content samples?

If it was "pitch black" praytell how was I able to describe such an animal?

Methinks your animosity (toward me) has biased your opinion to the point that a rational (aka: common sense) statement could not be made even if your life depended upon it.   

[Telahnay's g'son]

I'm going back to my "Hunting for Bigfeet" thread under "General Discussion" on www.gbofreeforums.info/Bigfootstudy.  Here, I feel like I'm duckin' bullets from all directions. 

'Tis not a place for the faint of heart.