ATR 100 vs Stevens for Whitetail Deer

[hipshot300]

mossberg owns savage?
i read the following on the savage website under history

"By 1995, Savage was now financially strong enough to attract potential buyers and the owners showed interest in selling. In order to keep the company focused and under the control of local management, Ronald Coburn raised the money to purchase the company and took it private."

don't know if anything is going on under the table

[Mattkc]

I have a Mossy SSI in 308 and it's ok except for the trigger.  I wouldn't get another Mossy because they dropped the SSI to get the ART going.  Savage has product the same basic rifle for years and you can get parts for them.  In a couple of years when Mossy drops the ART for a new project you will be like me screwed if you ever need parts.

[hogana]

I shot the new Rem 700 ADL 270 today. I bought a nikon prostaff scope and paid to have it mounted. I like the scope a lot.

I am one heck of a lousy marksman. I shot, cleaned, shot, cleaned. My holes at 100 yards all fit in a paperplate, but I was expecting 2 inch groups. I guess I will have to spend more time shooting. Right now I am not fit to hunt pole barns.

I shot off a table from a seated possition w/ a back pack full of towels as my "sand bag" w/ the target about 100 yards away.

I suspect I am a bit recoil sensitive. I used 130 grain bullets and started to use a wearable recoil pad after a while, but after 16 shots I stopped because I thought I was too flinchy. That ADL gun is sold w/ a hard plastic recoil "pad". I suspect I need to go and purchase one that is actually desinged to absorb recoil rather than deliver it to your shoulder.

Will the gun shoot better after it is broken in?

I probably need to make time to shoot a couple times a month.

Perhaps the 270 is too much gun. I know it will be fine when I shoot it while hunting, but it is a little tough to sight in.

[killdeer]

hogana,
go to wal-mart and pick up some Remington reduced recoil ammunition. Nobody shoots good if they anticipate recoil.  While you are there, pick up a set of ear plugs on a string and a good set of the ear muff type protectors. Wear both and keep your range times short until you become more comfortable.  Winning the mental game and becoming comfortable with your rifle will help put lots of venison in your freezer.
NO FEAR! :mrgreen:


KD

[hogana]

10/4 on the hearing protection. I wore plugs and muffs over them. I know the sound can add to perceived recoil.

I shot some managed recoil rounds at first and then shot the full recoil rounds. I will purchase more managed recoil ammo for my next range session.

Realistically I can't imagine shooting at a deer beyond 150 yards and that is well within the range of the managed recoil rounds.

I will get a good recoil pad for the gun. Any suggestions? I will get out and shoot it some more. I know recoil wont matter when I am hunting, but it sure is a problem from the bench.

I will get a sand bag for my next shooting session.

Thanks for the encourgement.

[Jason]

Get a Limbsaver pre-fit pad and you'll be amazed at the difference if you're coming from a hard pad. I used to use Decelerator pads on my guns until I found the Limbsavers. Go to this page for more info.

http://www.limbsaver.com/limbsaver/firearms/precfit.aspx

You're looking for either model 10111 or 10112, depending on the heigh of your stock at the recoil pad.

[hogana]

I took the factory plastic "pad" off my gun. The stock is not flat at the end, it is moon shaped. I compaired it with the templates the stock is 1 and 5/8 by 5 and 1/16 rich. If I sand it flat the 5 and 1/16 will shrink some.

Will I lower the gun's value if I sand the butt end of the stock flat? Or is that just not an issue with a mass produced deer gun?

Looks like the meduim unit that just fits the gun like a sock would work. Will those work without changing the slight curve of the moon shaped end of the stock?

Thanks for the help.