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Offline WN

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CZ 527 American in 223
« on: February 08, 2006, 11:02:30 AM »
Has anyone had experience eith this rifle.  My local dealer just got several of them in.  The seem to be decent rifles for the price $500.00.  I was thing about picking one up for mu son to shoot ground hogs with this summer.  How do they shoot?

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you might want to buy two
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2006, 06:33:40 PM »
Welcome WN: I own a CZ 527 Lux model that I put in an aftermarket Fancy Grade American Walnut stock I bought from CZ-USA. I glassbedded the action area and freefloated the barrel. With my handloads this rifle will put five 50 grain Sierra varmit bullets into a dime size group at 100 yards. They are accurate as all getout and easy to carry along. I think you will especially like the trigger mechanism. The CZ 527 triggers, and the CZ 550 triggers, are very easy to adjust for trigger pull weight, creep and overtravel. Mine breaks clean, like a piece of glass, right at 3 pounds. Now, when you cycle the bolt and cock the rifle, push the trigger all the way forward until you hear a click and you now have a set trigger, one that will go off at about 12 ounces. If you don't like the set feature, just don't use it and you'll never know it is there. My rifle is in .223 Remington. When my little brother saw mine, he had to get one too, but instead of the .223, he bought one in .221 Fireball. That little screamer is just as accurate as mine and has not had one drop of glassbedding in it. The only thing Duffy had me do was adjust the trigger for him. Like I said, you may like it so much you end up buying two of them. Good Luck ... Tom Purdom

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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2006, 07:01:21 PM »
Just an opinion here, but that seems like a pretty high price for a 527 unless it's a prestige model.

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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2006, 08:17:21 PM »
i agree.  sounds a bit high.  i picked one up in .204 ruger for $430.  

i'm pleased with the rifle.  as stated above, the trigger is sweet - once you adjust it.  nbd, it is really easy to adjust.  the set trigger is marvelous off the bench.

it is light and easy to handle.  i've been using it for my call rifle on yotes/fox and will continue to do so.  

i'm a little dissapointed with the accuracy.  however, i haven't worked up a lot of loads yet - only two.  factory hornady v-max 32 gr shoots an 1 inch off the bench at 100yrds.  the only reloads i have tried are with the 35 gr berger and varget.  these opened up to 1.5 inch.  of course, that's still darned good from a factory rifle and factory ammo - especially for the price (unlike some, my groups stated on the www are factual and they are an average.  yes, i've shot tighter groups with this rifle, but also some a little less impressive.)

i guess i just got caught up in all the accuracy claims of this round and this rifle.  yes, it is accurate.  no, i have not been able to consistantly shoot sub moa with it.  then again, i don't really need to shoot sub moa to kill wil-e-coyote at 100 yrds.

for the money, it is a grt rifle.  beautiful wood.  solid action.  beautiful trigger.  comes with rings.

not to highjack the tread, but....  has anyone found a good reload (especially with the 35gr berger) in their 527 .204?
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2006, 08:37:21 PM »
I just looked at the CZ 2005 dealer price list sheet and it says the CZ 527 American has a dealer price of $479.00. That said, I have seen them cheaper than $479 too on GunsAmerica.com. The only problem with that is, you have to pay an FFL to get it for you, and most of the company's charge inflated shipping and "handling" charges to make a few more dollars off the deal.  Oh well, there's my two and one-half cents worth. Tom Purdom

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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2006, 02:21:31 AM »
I do not know why but the other calibers 222, 204 etc are cheaper than the 223.  My dealer said that the 223 is a mor expensive rifle.  He showed me the price in his book where he orders them and he is making about $60.00 on the rifle.

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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2006, 06:56:10 AM »
I love my 527 .223. I can group 5 shots under a quarter at 100 yards with an occasional flyer using Winchester white box 55gr. The barrel will heat up quite a bit after about 5 shots but I have the sporter barrel on mine. It is a very light rifle which makes it easy to carry all day and I love the trigger.

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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2006, 04:05:40 PM »
I own two CZ527's. One is made in Czechoslovakia, .223, has a Bavarian pattern beechwood stock like the new LUX and no set trigger. I free-floated it and glass bedded it. I also have a new American in .221. Fireball made in the Czech Republic which I have done nothing to. Both are 1/2 to 1 MOA. They are easy to reload for and shoot just about anything accurately! I have taken groundhogs to 200 yards with the .221.

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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2006, 03:44:23 PM »
I have the 527 in 223.  $500 is too much for this in the American Model.  I hate to jump in and break up the CZ lovefest but the only thing mine will shoot under an inch is Federal Premium 55gr Ballistic Tips.  It shoots 60gr partitions into 4 or 5 inches.  It does about 3" with cheap Winchester stuff.  I guess I need to free float it and glass bed it. If it had sights I would take the scope off and just shoot it that way.  I'm used to shooting Browning Abolts and they shoot without doing anything but putting a scope on them.  I have been disappointed to say the least.  
I bought this rifle after purchasing a 452 in 17hmr.  Now the 452 is a real shooter.  It can seriously put 5 shots touching at 100yds.  I expected similar performance in the 527 and have yet to see it.
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« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2006, 09:45:11 AM »
Arkhillbilly: You're not breaking up a lovefest, just responding to folks who shoot and feel the CZ 527s are exceptional values in today's gun market. Most of us have discovered that the CZ offers supurb accuracy. Some of us have had to work a bit for it, but to me, that work is a joy to do just because I like tinkering to extract the last bit of accuracy a rifle has to offer. Virtually every gun maker will produce rifles that, for some reason or the other, is a dog. That does not mean the entire line of that model are dogs. If, on the other hand, the forums are filled with complaints about accuracy of a particular model, then I would have to say there is a problem. I read on another place in this forum where you said CZ should move back behind the iron curtain or some such dribble, other than the CZ 452. My brother bought a Browning A-Bolt in .243 Winchester and no matter what we did, through tinkering and reloading, that rifle at best was a 3-inch grouping rifle. So, based on that experience ALL Browning A-Bolt's are royal POS not worthy of consideration. Right? Anyway Arkhillbilly, I wish the best to you.

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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2006, 02:38:07 PM »
I have one of these in the varmint rifle. I love the rifle. It is very accurate. I was under the impression that it had a 1 in 12 twist barrel but I doubt this because this rifle shoots the 69 grain match bullets better than the lighter bullets. It is averageing in the high .5's for 5 shot groups with the 69 grain bullets It may improve a tad more but I am happy if it stays the way it is.

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« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2006, 04:55:20 PM »
Quote from: arkhillbilly
I bought this rifle after purchasing a 452 in 17hmr.  Now the 452 is a real shooter.  It can seriously put 5 shots touching at 100yds.  I expected similar performance in the 527 and have yet to see it.

My CZ 452 17HM2 is a real shooter too, but then so is my 527 .223. :wink:

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« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2006, 10:50:42 AM »
Quote from: vernonp
I have one of these in the varmint rifle... I was under the impression that it had a 1 in 12 twist barrel but I doubt this because this rifle shoots the 69 grain match bullets better than the lighter bullets.

If you have the Kevlar stock in your varmint rifle, the twist rate is 1:9.

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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2006, 11:27:53 AM »
All of the twist rates can be found in the sticky at that top of this forum.  :D

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2006, 01:25:48 PM »
I had a 527 Prestige in .223 Rem. Being the Prestige model, the gun was absolutely beatiful to look at and shot 5-shot groups around .5" to .75" at 100yds. It only shot bullets from 42 to about 45 grains that well, though, due to the 1:12 twist barrel. Anything above 52 or 53 grains and the groups opened up to an inch or so. Since I got the gun to coyote hunt with and wanted to use the heavier bullets, I wasn't very happy with it. It was also way too pretty for the rough hunting I sometimes do. My mind was on not scratching up the rifle instead of paying attention to hunting the couple times I took it out hunting. I sold it and got a Savage stainless/synthetic that shot even a little better with the light bullets and a lot better with heavy bullets, not to mention being ugly and tough enough that I don't worry about scratching it up. :) :lol:

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« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2006, 08:29:25 AM »
I have the 527 American in birds eye maple with the set trigger in .22 Hornet and paid $500.  Like someone said, the dealer cost is $479.  If someone paid only $430 it must have fallen off a truck in Brooklyn and Vito(Fingers) Boberoni sold it to you.  

I love my 527 and will look at the CZ products in the future for any new acquisitions for sure.
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